Nine of the ten loudest climate-denying scientists tied to Exxon

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Climate change deniers like to point out that they have scientists on their side, too. But an analysis of more than 900 papers supporting climate skepticism showed that about 20 percent of those papers came from the same 10 scientists, and nine of them, according to The Carbon Brief, have ties to ExxonMobil.

Eight of the scientists were directly connected to organizations that took money from Exxon, and one other only showed up on papers written with an Exxon-affiliated scientist. Only one of those 10 could claim to be independent of the oil giant. (He or she probably had other problems.)

Given Exxon's massive profits, it's not so surprising they could find nine people whose research fit nicely with the company's political agenda and underwrite their work. After all, the Catholic Church, flush with resources, also found plenty of people willing to offer scientific proof that the Earth was at the center of the universe.

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• Analysing the '900 papers supporting climate skepticism': 9 out of top 10 authors linked to ExxonMobil, The Carbon Brief

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We shall call it: Deniergate

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What is it that the scientifically illiterate call it?

"Follow the money" or something like it?

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who denies climate changing? It changes all the time...

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So they could be biased by money and the 9 out of 10 that get government money to support global warming are not biased.

3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population.

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Climate change deniers like to point out that they have scientists on their side, too. But an analysis of more than 900 papers supporting climate skepticism showed that about 20 percent of those papers came from the same 10 scientists, and nine of them, according to The Carbon Brief, have ties to ExxonMobil.

Eight of the scientists were directly connected to organizations that took money from Exxon, and one other only showed up on papers written with an Exxon-affiliated scientist. Only one of those 10 could claim to be independent of the oil giant. (He or she probably had other problems.)

Given Exxon's massive profits, it's not so surprising they could find nine people whose research fit nicely with the company's political agenda and underwrite their work. After all, the Catholic Church, flush with resources, also found plenty of people willing to offer scientific proof that the Earth was at the center of the universe.

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• Analysing the '900 papers supporting climate skepticism': 9 out of top 10 authors linked to ExxonMobil, The Carbon Brief

It's a pity the author of the article doesn't question the actual science these "9 out of 10" have published.

As it doesn't, one has to wonder whether they can or not.

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We shall call it: Deniergate

Hardly. The scientists in the UK manipulated data. The scientists in the article just have financial backing, directly, or indirectly, from Exxon.

I wonder where 9 out of 10 scientists who are pro-Global Warming get their funding from? I bet they're not lacking for a few dollars.

But it's all besides the point. Who gets money from where is irrelevant. It's whether their science holds up under peer review that matters. And this article gets nowhere near the science.

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Are Skeptical Scientists funded by ExxonMobil?

In an article titled, "Analysing the ‘900 papers supporting climate scepticism’: 9 out of top 10 authors linked to ExxonMobil" from the environmental activist website The Carbon Brief, former Greenpeace "researcher" Christian Hunt failed to do basic research. He made no attempt to contact the scientists he unjustly attacked and instead used biased and corrupt websites like DeSmogBlog to smear them as "linked to" [funded by] ExxonMobil.

To get to the truth, I emailed the scientists mentioned in the article the following questions;

1. Have you ever received direct funding from ExxonMobil?

2. Do funding sources have any influence over your scientific work?

3. Has your scientific position regarding climate change ever changed due to a funding source?

4. Please include any additional comment on the article,

Their responses follow,

http://www.populartechnology.net/2011/05/are-skeptical-scientists-funded-by.html

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Are Skeptical Scientists funded by ExxonMobil?

In an article titled, "Analysing the '900 papers supporting climate scepticism': 9 out of top 10 authors linked to ExxonMobil" from the environmental activist website The Carbon Brief, former Greenpeace "researcher" Christian Hunt failed to do basic research. He made no attempt to contact the scientists he unjustly attacked and instead used biased and corrupt websites like DeSmogBlog to smear them as "linked to" [funded by] ExxonMobil.

To get to the truth, I emailed the scientists mentioned in the article the following questions;

1. Have you ever received direct funding from ExxonMobil?

2. Do funding sources have any influence over your scientific work?

3. Has your scientific position regarding climate change ever changed due to a funding source?

4. Please include any additional comment on the article,

Their responses follow,

http://www.popularte...-funded-by.html

Really? It's that simple. You just ask these guys and take their word for it? That's very scientific of you.

Here's the facts on Richard Lindzen, which speak for themselves:

Dr. Lindzen is one of the highest prolife climate skeptic scientists, arguably because he has been a member of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and contributed to the Second Assessment Report. He regularly takes issue with the general conclusions drawn from the IPCC's reports and has been at the forefront of the consistent attacks on the IPCC since the early 1990's. His prolific writings assert that climate change science is inconclusive. His opinions are cited throughout the ExxonMobil funded groups and he regularly appears at events organised by them.

Ross Gelbspan reported in 1995 that Lindzen "charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels, and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC." ("The Heat is On: The warming of the world's climate sparks a blaze of denial," Harper's magazine, December 1995.) Lindzen signed the 1995 Leipzig Declaration.

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/personfactsheet.php?id=17

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"ExxonSecrets" is a propaganda site funded by Greenpeace. Can you find the "facts" on Richard Lindzen from a reputable news source? I can,

MIT's inconvenient scientist (The Boston Globe)

I decided to check out Lindzen for myself. He wasn't hard to find on the 16th floor of MIT's I.M. Pei-designed Building 54, and he answered as many questions as I had time to ask. He's no big fan of Gore's, having suffered through what he calls a ``Star Chamber" Congressional inquisition by the then senator . He said he accepted $10,000 in expenses and expert witness fees from fossil- fuel types in the 1990s, and has taken none of their money since.

He's smart. He's an effective debater. No wonder the Steve Schneiders and Al Gores of the world don't want you to hear from him. It's easier to call someone a shill and accuse him of corruption than to debate him on the merits.

...Of course Lindzen isn't a fake scientist, he's an inconvenient scientist. No wonder you're not supposed to listen to him.

His credentials are impeccable,

Richard S. Lindzen, A.B. Physics Magna Cum Laude, Harvard University (1960); S.M. Applied Mathematics, Harvard University (1961); Ph.D. Applied Mathematics, Harvard University (1964); Research Associate in Meteorology, University of Washington (1964-1965); NATO Post-Doctoral Fellow at the Institute for Theoretical Meteorology, University of Oslo (1965-1966); Research Scientist, National Center for Atmospheric Research (1966-1967); Visiting Lecturer in Meteorology, UCLA (1967); NCAR Outstanding Publication Award (1967); AMS Meisinger Award (1968); Associate Professor and Professor of Meteorology, University of Chicago (1968-1972); Summer Lecturer, NCAR Colloquium (1968, 1972, 1978); AGU Macelwane Award (1969); Visiting Professor, Department of Environmental Sciences, Tel Aviv University (1969); Alfred P. Sloan Fellowship (1970-1976); Gordon McKay Professor of Dynamic Meteorology, Harvard University (1972-1983); Visiting Professor of Dynamic Meteorology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1975); Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Department of Meteorology, The Hebrew University (1979); Director, Center for Earth and Planetary Physics, Harvard University (1980-1983); Robert P. Burden Professor of Dynamical Meteorology, Harvard University (1982-1983); AMS Charney Award (1985); Vikram Amblal Sarabhai Professor, Physical Research Laboratory, Ahmedabad, India (1985); Japanese Society for the Promotion of Science Fellowship (1986-1987); Distinguished Visiting Scientist, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA (1988-Present); Sackler Visiting Professor, Tel Aviv University (1992); Landsdowne Lecturer, University of Victoria (1993); Bernhard Haurwitz Memorial Lecturer, American Meteorological Society (1997); Fellow, American Academy of Arts & Sciences; Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science; Fellow, American Geophysical Union; Fellow, American Meteorological Society; Member, Norwegian Academy of Science and Letters; Member, Sigma Xi, The Scientific Research Society; Member, National Academy of Sciences; ISI Highly Cited Researcher; Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1983-Present); Lead Author, IPCC (2001)

Edited May 23, 2011 by Poptech

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"ExxonSecrets" is a propaganda site funded by Greenpeace. Can you find the "facts" on Richard Lindzen from a reputable news source? I can,

Organizations listed in the Exxonsecrets database:

• 60/Sixty Plus Association
• Accuracy in Media
• Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty
• Africa Fighting Malaria
• Air Quality Standards Coalition
• Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
• Alliance for Climate Strategies
• American Coal Foundation
• American Council for Capital Formation Center for Policy Research
• American Council on Science and Health
• American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
• American Enterprise Institute-Brookings Joint Center for Regulatory Studies
• American Friends of the Institute for Economic Affairs
• American Legislative Exchange Council
• American Petroleum Institute
• American Policy Center
• American Recreation Coalition
• Americans for Tax Reform
• Arizona State University Office of Cimatology
• Aspen Institute
• Association of Concerned Taxpayers
• Atlantic Legal Foundation
• Atlas Economic Research Foundation
• Blue Ribbon Coalition
• Capital Legal Foundation
• Capital Research Center and Greenwatch
• Cato Institute
• Center for American and International Law
• Center for Environmental Education Research
• Center for Security Policy
• Center for Strategic and International Studies
• Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise
• Center for the New West
• Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change
• Centre for the New Europe
• Chemical Education Foundation
• Citizens for A Sound Economy and CSE Educational Foundation
• Citizens for the Environment and CFE Action Fund
• Clean Water Industry Coalition
• Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow
• Communications Institute
• Competitive Enterprise Institute
• Congress of Racial Equality
• Consumer Alert
• Cooler Heads Coalition
• Council for Solid Waste Solutions
• Defenders of Property Rights
• Earthwatch Institute
• ECO or Environmental Conservation Organization
• ExxonMobil Corporation
• Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies
• Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment
• Fraser Institute
• Free Enterprise Action Institute
• Free Enterprise Education Institute
• Frontiers of Freedom Institute and Foundation
• George C. Marshall Institute
• George Mason University, Law and Economics Center
• Global Climate Coalition
• Great Plains Legal Foundation
• Greening Earth Society
• Harvard Center for Risk Analysis
• Heartland Institute
• Heritage Foundation
• Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace, Stanford University
• Hudson Institute
• Illinois Policy Institute
• Independent Commission on Environmental Education
• Independent Institute
• Institute for Biospheric Research
• Institute for Energy Research
• Institute for Regulatory Science
• Institute for the Study of Earth and Man
• Institute of Humane Studies, George Mason University
• International Council for Capital Formation
• International Policy Network - North America
• International Republican Institute
• James Madison Institute
• Junkscience.com
• Landmark Legal Foundation
• Lexington Institute
• Lindenwood University
• Mackinac Center
• Manhattan Institute for Policy Research
• Media Institute
• Media Research Center
• Mercatus Center, George Mason University
• Mountain States Legal Foundation
• National Association of Neighborhoods
• National Black Chamber of Commerce
• National Center for Policy Analysis
• National Center for Public Policy Research
• National Council for Environmental Balance
• National Environmental Policy Institute
• National Legal Center for the Public Interest
• National Policy Forum
• National Wetlands Coalition
• National Wilderness Institute
• New England Legal Foundation
• Pacific Legal Foundation
• Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy
• Property and Environment Research Center, formerly Political Economy Research Center
• Public Interest Watch
• Reason Foundation
• Reason Public Policy Institute
• Science and Environmental Policy Project
• Seniors Coalition
• Small Business Survival Committee
• Southeastern Legal Foundation
• Stanford University GCEP
• Statistical Assessment Service (STATS)
• Tech Central Science Foundation or Tech Central Station
• Texas Public Policy Foundation
• The Advancement of Sound Science Center, Inc.
• The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition
• The Annapolis Center for Science-Based Public Policy
• The Justice Foundation (formerly Texas Justice Foundation)
• The Locke Institute
• United for Jobs
• University of Oklahoma Foundation, Inc.
• US Russia Business Council
• Virginia Institute for Public Policy
• Washington Legal Foundation
• Weidenbaum Center on the Economy, Government, and Public Policy
• World Climate Report

http://www.sourcewat...ecrets_database

Edited May 23, 2011 by 8TBVBN

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So did GaryC get tired of his old handle and create yet another new account?

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Organizations listed in the Exxonsecrets database:

• 60/Sixty Plus Association
• Accuracy in Media
• Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty
• Africa Fighting Malaria
• Air Quality Standards Coalition
• Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
• Alliance for Climate Strategies
• American Coal Foundation
• American Council for Capital Formation Center for Policy Research
• American Council on Science and Health
• American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
• American Enterprise Institute-Brookings Joint Center for Regulatory Studies
• American Friends of the Institute for Economic Affairs
• American Legislative Exchange Council
• American Petroleum Institute
• American Policy Center
• American Recreation Coalition
• Americans for Tax Reform
• Arizona State University Office of Cimatology
• Aspen Institute
• Association of Concerned Taxpayers
• Atlantic Legal Foundation
• Atlas Economic Research Foundation
• Blue Ribbon Coalition
• Capital Legal Foundation
• Capital Research Center and Greenwatch
• Cato Institute
• Center for American and International Law
• Center for Environmental Education Research
• Center for Security Policy
• Center for Strategic and International Studies
• Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise
• Center for the New West
• Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change
• Centre for the New Europe
• Chemical Education Foundation
• Citizens for A Sound Economy and CSE Educational Foundation
• Citizens for the Environment and CFE Action Fund
• Clean Water Industry Coalition
• Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow
• Communications Institute
• Competitive Enterprise Institute
• Congress of Racial Equality
• Consumer Alert
• Cooler Heads Coalition
• Council for Solid Waste Solutions
• Defenders of Property Rights
• Earthwatch Institute
• ECO or Environmental Conservation Organization
• ExxonMobil Corporation
• Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies
• Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment
• Fraser Institute
• Free Enterprise Action Institute
• Free Enterprise Education Institute
• Frontiers of Freedom Institute and Foundation
• George C. Marshall Institute
• George Mason University, Law and Economics Center
• Global Climate Coalition
• Great Plains Legal Foundation
• Greening Earth Society
• Harvard Center for Risk Analysis
• Heartland Institute
• Heritage Foundation
• Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace, Stanford University
• Hudson Institute
• Illinois Policy Institute
• Independent Commission on Environmental Education
• Independent Institute
• Institute for Biospheric Research
• Institute for Energy Research
• Institute for Regulatory Science
• Institute for the Study of Earth and Man
• Institute of Humane Studies, George Mason University
• International Council for Capital Formation
• International Policy Network - North America
• International Republican Institute
• James Madison Institute
• Junkscience.com
• Landmark Legal Foundation
• Lexington Institute
• Lindenwood University
• Mackinac Center
• Manhattan Institute for Policy Research
• Media Institute
• Media Research Center
• Mercatus Center, George Mason University
• Mountain States Legal Foundation
• National Association of Neighborhoods
• National Black Chamber of Commerce
• National Center for Policy Analysis
• National Center for Public Policy Research
• National Council for Environmental Balance
• National Environmental Policy Institute
• National Legal Center for the Public Interest
• National Policy Forum
• National Wetlands Coalition
• National Wilderness Institute
• New England Legal Foundation
• Pacific Legal Foundation
• Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy
• Property and Environment Research Center, formerly Political Economy Research Center
• Public Interest Watch
• Reason Foundation
• Reason Public Policy Institute
• Science and Environmental Policy Project
• Seniors Coalition
• Small Business Survival Committee
• Southeastern Legal Foundation
• Stanford University GCEP
• Statistical Assessment Service (STATS)
• Tech Central Science Foundation or Tech Central Station
• Texas Public Policy Foundation
• The Advancement of Sound Science Center, Inc.
• The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition
• The Annapolis Center for Science-Based Public Policy
• The Justice Foundation (formerly Texas Justice Foundation)
• The Locke Institute
• United for Jobs
• University of Oklahoma Foundation, Inc.
• US Russia Business Council
• Virginia Institute for Public Policy
• Washington Legal Foundation
• Weidenbaum Center on the Economy, Government, and Public Policy
• World Climate Report

http://www.sourcewat...ecrets_database

Is this is your 'if they disagree with me taxing everyone, then i'm going to post them on a website, 'list?''

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So you have nothing. You are unable to find anything from a reputable news source just propaganda and smear sites.

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Alarmist Challenge:

It is falsely implied that if a scientist went to a meeting for coffee and donuts hosted by an organizati­on that in the last 20 years received a $5 donation from a fossil fuel company that scientist is now "funded by the fossil fuel industry".

- Please provide actual documents irrefutabl­y demonstrat­ing direct fossil fuel company funding for any scientist.

- Then prove that the same scientist has received enough energy company donations to sustain all their research over the years.

- Finally prove that the same scientist changed their scientific position regarding AGW due to a monetary donation and did not hold a skeptical position prior to the donation.

Let me know when you can do this, thanks.

Edited May 23, 2011 by Poptech