RWN rant: The Native Americans deserved it.

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Native Americans morally disqualified themselves from the land

Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:38 AM

By Bryan Fischer

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In all the discussions about the European settlement of the New World, one feature has been conspicuously absent: the role that the superstition, savagery and sexual immorality of native Americans played in making them morally disqualified from sovereign control of American soil.

International legal scholars have always recognized that sovereign control of land is legitimately transferred in at least three ways: settlement, purchase, and conquest. Europeans have to this day a legitimate claim on American soil for all three of those reasons.

They established permanent settlements on the land, moving gradually from east to west, while Indian tribes remained relentlessly nomadic.

Much of the early territory in North American that came into possession of the Europeans came into their possession when the land was purchased from local tribes, Peter Minuit’s purchase of Manhattan being merely the first.

And the Europeans proved superior in battle, taking possession of contested lands through right of conquest. So in all respects, Europeans gained rightful and legal sovereign control of American soil.

But another factor has rarely been discussed, and that is the moral factor.

In the ancient tradition of the Hebrews, God made it clear to Abraham that the land of Canaan was promised to his descendants. But he told Abraham the transfer of land to his heirs could not happen for 400 years, for one simple reason: “[T]he iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete” (Gen. 15:16).

The Amorites, or Canaanite peoples, practiced one moral abomination after another, whether it was incest, adultery, sexual immorality, homosexuality, bestiality or child sacrifice, and God finally said “Enough!”

By the time he brought the nascent nation of Israel to the borders of the land flowing with milk and honey, he had already been patient with the native tribes for 400 years, waiting for them to come to the place of repentance for their socially and spiritually degrading practices.

His patience was not rewarded, and finally the day came when the sin had reached its full measure. The slop bucket was full, and it was time to empty it out. Israel under Joshua was God’s custodian to empty the bucket and start over.

The native American tribes at the time of the European settlement and founding of the United States were, virtually without exception, steeped in the basest forms of superstition, had been guilty of savagery in warfare for hundreds of years, and practiced the most debased forms of sexuality.

One of the complaints listed by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence was that King George “has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.”

The Lewis and Clark journals record the constant warfare between the nomadic Indian tribes on the frontier, and the implacable hostility of the Sioux Indians in particular.

The journals record the morally abhorrent practice of many native American chiefs, who offered their own wives to the Corps of Discovery for their twisted sexual pleasure. (Regrettably, many members of the Corps, Lewis and Clark excepted, took advantage of these offers and contracted numerous and debilitating sexually transmitted diseases as a result.)

The native American tribes ultimately resisted the appeal of Christian Europeans to leave behind their superstition and occult practices for the light of Christianity and civilization. They in the end resisted every attempt to “Christianize the Savages of the Wilderness,” to use George Washington’s phrase.

They rejected Washington’s direct counsel to the Delaware chiefs in 1779, “You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ.”

Thomas Jefferson three times signed legislation appropriating federal tax dollars for the evangelizing of the Native American tribes. It all came to nought, as one tribe after another rejected the offer of spiritual light and advanced civilization.

Missionaries were murdered in cold blood, including Marcus Whitman, who was tomahawked to death in his own house in 1848 by the Cayuse and Umatilla Indians in what became the Oregon Territory.

God explained to the nation of Israel that because of the “abomination(s)” of the indigenous Canaanite tribes, the land had become unclean and “vomited out its inhabitants (Lev. 18:25).”

Is this to say the same holds true for native American tribes today? In many respects, the answer is of course no. But in some senses, the answer is yes. Many of the tribal reservations today remain mired in poverty and alcoholism because many native Americans continue to cling to the darkness of indigenous superstition instead of coming into the light of Christianity and assimilating into Christian culture.

The continued presence of native American superstition was on full display at the memorial service for the victims of the Tucson shooter, when the “invocation” (such as it was) was offered by a native American who sought inspiration from the “Seven Directions,” including “Father Sky” and “Mother Earth,” rather than the God of the Bible.

Sadly, this column will likely generate a firestorm of nuclear proportions among wingers on the left rather than the thoughtful reflection the thesis deserves.

Even worse, the reaction will likely obscure the sobering lesson for today. America in 2011 is as guilty of “abominations” as the native American tribes we replaced. We have the blood of 53 million babies on our hands through abortion. We have normalized sexual immorality, adultery, and homosexuality, all horrors in the eyes of God, and are witnessing a surge in incest, pedophilia and even bestiality in our midst.

God warned the ancient nation of Israel not to lapse into the abominable practices of the native peoples “lest the land vomit you out...as it vomited out the nation that was before you” (Lev. 18:28).

Time eventually ran out for the Canaanites, because they filled up the full measure of their iniquity. Time ran out for the native American tribes for the same reason.

The only question that matters today is this one: how much time does America have left to repent of its superstition, its savagery and its sexual immorality before it is too late, before we will have filled up our own slop bucket and will have morally disqualified ourselves from sovereign control of our own land?

Thomas Jefferson wrote at the time of the Founding, “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.” It is long past time for us once again to tremble for our country.

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This RWN rant comes to you courtesy of the RWN site the American Family Association.

They rejected Washington’s direct counsel to the Delaware chiefs in 1779, “You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ.”

Thomas Jefferson three times signed legislation appropriating federal tax dollars for the evangelizing of the Native American tribes. It all came to nought, as one tribe after another rejected the offer of spiritual light and advanced civilization.

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Another example of how the Founders had no concept what has become known as: "The separation of Church and State".

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Another example of how the Founders had no concept what has become known as: "The separation of Church and State".

I take it, then, that you are sympathetic to Mr. Fischer's general argument?

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I take it, then, that you are sympathetic to Mr. Fischer's general argument?

Need you ask?

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Need you ask?

If I had to guess, I'd guess you are not sympathetic to this line of argument in the least. You may be a Christianist, but too nice to condone genocide.

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Not too surprised who immediately popped up to support the loony drivel in the OP...

[sandinista! 1,816]

Maybe I'm just naive, but even after years of reading some crazy shite in OT, this one still managed to make my jaw drop. Words fail me.

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This factor was brought up way back from the beginning and will again in the future. It is also a fact that quite a few Native Americans did decide to try to assimilate and settled down down and accepted Christianity and had family that they brought up in a good Christian fashion. Usually the case that would happen with them was they were also killed and their lands taken. Maybe there was another issue going on at the same time.

Even Andrew Jackson who forced the Trail of Tears on the tribes east did nothing for the many native Americans who did assimilate and even gave his blessings to their removal also. They had something we wanted and we took it by force.

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I haven't heard of this guy before, but I looked at the link hoping he was just a random blogger among hundreds or thousands. But instead, I found video clips of him talking about it.

So many issues like comparing the European settlers with the Hebrews in the Bible, while the Hebrew people were actually descendants of the region they were to live in. And acting as if the settlers were perfect models of spiritual living. If that were, why would they have tolerated killing innocent people or allowing slavery? Those are violations against "love your neighbor as yourself" that Jesus said himself. To me it was all about land and getting it every way possible. I'd call that land greed, and wouldn't call that Christian.

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To me it was all about land and getting it every way possible. I'd call that land greed, and wouldn't call that Christian.

So you're saying the founding fathers were not Christian?

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So you're saying the founding fathers were not Christian?

I'm not saying that exactly, but I wouldn't call their actions Christian. When people are in conquest mode, I don't think that itself is Christian behavior. But I wouldn't say they didn't believe in Christ.

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I'm not saying that exactly, but I wouldn't call their actions Christian. When people are in conquest mode, I don't think that itself is Christian behavior. But I wouldn't say they didn't believe in Christ.

Can we call them Christian terrorists? They claimed to be Christian even though many believe their actions aren't Christianity-compliant.

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Can we call them Christian terrorists? They claimed to be Christian even though many believe their actions aren't Christianity-compliant.

In instances when they stole land and killed innocent people, sure, you can call them that.

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In instances when they stole land and killed innocent people, sure, you can call them that.

Wow, you just compared George Washington to bin Laden. You are despicable.

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Wow, you just compared George Washington to bin Laden. You are despicable.

To answer seriously, there is quite a bit of difference between the two. I am not saying that Washington's acts were somehow much better just because it had to do with establishing the US, but one person is focused on retaliation against the US, while another was focused on building the US and getting independence from Britain. Washington honored( at least for a certain amount of time) some treaties with Native American tribes, yet also ordered attacks on other tribes' lands, very contradictory. He also thought the native Americans should become "civilized" and dress European, get educated, etc. We already know that.

But then it makes me wonder. Nowadays people don't like if a country is lower in levels of civilization or education and wants to make sure those things improve especially if the people living there are of European descent. Should I even associate that with the view that Washington and others had about the natives, that we shudder over today? When we wish they could have been left alone to live as they please and preserve their culture better? Even if that means they didn't know most of the scientific things known by others during that time period? hmmm.