Removal of conditions, why are so many cases denied based on abandonment (lost mail)

[sdchargers 0]

Hi,

My wife's I485 and my I130 just got approved. She will be receiving her conditional green card in a few days. We will have to file for removal of conditions in a little less than 2 years. Out of curiosity, I am reading about the I751 removal of conditions process and found out that a pretty large number of cases are considered to be abandoned because the applicants never received the biometrics appointment letter, a RFE or the interview letter.

Why are so many letters lost? How can this be avoided by applicants? If applicants choose to go with a lawyer, are all notices sent to both the applicants AND their lawyers?

How did everything pan out for you?

Thanks a lot for your help!

[shescott 0]

The removal you will do that before the conditional green card expire right? did ur wife already received her conditional green card?

[shescott 0]

Some of the applicants got denied sometimes lacked of documents or misinformed based on my understanding...

[jkelly07 120]

some people return to there country,some people move there biometrics get returned to uscis,why do you need a lawyer,you need evidence of a bona fide true marriage, some times they pick randomly for interview,

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

Lawyers.. blegh.... they cost a lot of money and they hardly do anything because, in the end, YOU will still need to provide all the evidence and such. The lawyer cannot do anything different than you can actually do for yourself. If your application gets denied, and you have a lawyer, you lost a lot of money but can still only blame yourself as you're still the one responsible for it all, not the lawyer. A little while ago I read someone paid their lawyer 4000 USD or so and the lawyer actually gave the wrong information... then what? Seriously, if you have a normal petition to file, you can seriously do without lawyer.

Also, the USCIS only sends the notices to one single address, not to both lawyer and petitioner. In addition to the above given reasons why some get lost, another one is that people move to a different address and fail to inform USCIS (or that USCIS actually fails to put the data in themselves).

[e-migra 4]

Hi!!!

Trust me, the removal of conditions process is VERY EASY (if the marriage is bona fide and the applicants have enough proof), I think getting a lawyer is totally unnecessary. As long as people update their address with USCIS when they move, and make sure to write their addresses correctly in the forms, there will be no problem.

Good luck in 2 years!

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

I would argue that the overwhelming majority of ROC petitions are being approved. Only case of fraudulent marriage or cases where the documentation submitted is so ridiculously weak will be denied. For somebody who is a VJ member and pays attention to the process and documentation, ROC should be straightforward.

[w8inglongtime 29]

You don't need a lawyer for ROC if you can read and write English. I was going to use a lawyer untill I saw the forms and saved myself $600. Have you moved since you filed AOS? and if you did, did you file address change? There are some reasons why USCIS will deny ROc applications for abandonment.

1. Abandonment.

2. Detection of fraud and abandonment afterwards.

3. No evidence of co-mingling to cover the conditional period.

4. Lost mail. Very ralely

Other than that over %90 get approved without an interview. If you have all the needed evidence, don't worry about others being denied. You'll be fine.

[sdchargers 0]

Thanks everyone for your answers,

If we move I will do the change of address procedure and also double check before sending the docs to see if they have the new updated address in their system, since some people reported that they had sent the change of address form and the letters still got lost.

I will not use the services of a lawyer, you're right. While the AOS was possibly difficult enough to explain the use of a lawyer (we got approved without one), the ROC seems fairly easy.