to clarify earlier e-mail about USCIS now going by Noa1

[qqq777iii888 0]

He just simply said that they had stopped processing i129f's at the end of June and so when imbra's started to be "Recieved" the first couple days of July that they processed those REGARDLESS of noa1 date. NOW, that they all IMBRAS have been recieved they are going back to noa1 date NOT rfe date.

YES, their are exceptions to this and the system is not good. However their was a reason that their were may's ahead of march's if the may noa1 RFE was RECIEVED by the CSC in late June or early July (june29-july8th). Like I said I am sure their are examples where this wasnt true. This is just what a staff manager at the CSC said. AND yes, it is 3rd hand.

Please dont critisize me, I am just telling you what I heard. To me it makes a little sense.

[sbgwolf1 0]

He just simply said that they had stopped processing i129f's at the end of June and so when imbra's started to be "Recieved" the first couple days of July that they processed those REGARDLESS of noa1 date. NOW, that they all IMBRAS have been recieved they are going back to noa1 date NOT rfe date.

YES, their are exceptions to this and the system is not good. However their was a reason that their were may's ahead of march's if the may noa1 RFE was RECIEVED by the CSC in late June or early July (june29-july8th). Like I said I am sure their are examples where this wasnt true. This is just what a staff manager at the CSC said. AND yes, it is 3rd hand.

Please dont critisize me, I am just telling you what I heard. To me it makes a little sense.

Please dont think we are criticizing you. I guess the issue is CSC has no idea what they are doing and ever bit of information they leak out is different to different people. We just kept having our hopes up to no avail and information that eventually changed..........I am hoping you are right (it would be a first with the csc! haha)

wolf

[kitkat1 5]

He just simply said that they had stopped processing i129f's at the end of June and so when imbra's started to be "Recieved" the first couple days of July that they processed those REGARDLESS of noa1 date. NOW, that they all IMBRAS have been recieved they are going back to noa1 date NOT rfe date.

YES, their are exceptions to this and the system is not good. However their was a reason that their were may's ahead of march's if the may noa1 RFE was RECIEVED by the CSC in late June or early July (june29-july8th). Like I said I am sure their are examples where this wasnt true. This is just what a staff manager at the CSC said. AND yes, it is 3rd hand.

Please dont critisize me, I am just telling you what I heard. To me it makes a little sense.

Like Wolf said, it's not meant as offense to you. It's just that one lawyer says he got this information from a staff manager - that's just not a credible source in my book. We were first told by multiple senators' offices that they were indeed following NOA1 dates. This information was provided to the senators by the CSC. But it turned out to be untrue. In fact, the only way Gary and I have been able to get a response, at all, from our senator's office is because they are so angry that they were lied to. Other people have posted what their lawyers have sworn to be the truth and others here swear by what they read in the official IMBRA memo. The truth seems to be that processing is still entirely random, but of course to keep all of us off their backs (and to keep the senators and congressmen off their backs) they are surely attempting to process in some sort of equitable manner. But I have a hard time believe it's a strict policy. In the end, of course I hope and pray you are right. But the reality is that they screwed this up from the beginning and it's hard to imagine that they are trying to make it right now by actually going in order.

[qqq777iii888 0]

He just simply said that they had stopped processing i129f's at the end of June and so when imbra's started to be "Recieved" the first couple days of July that they processed those REGARDLESS of noa1 date. NOW, that they all IMBRAS have been recieved they are going back to noa1 date NOT rfe date.

YES, their are exceptions to this and the system is not good. However their was a reason that their were may's ahead of march's if the may noa1 RFE was RECIEVED by the CSC in late June or early July (june29-july8th). Like I said I am sure their are examples where this wasnt true. This is just what a staff manager at the CSC said. AND yes, it is 3rd hand.

Please dont critisize me, I am just telling you what I heard. To me it makes a little sense.

Like Wolf said, it's not meant as offense to you. It's just that one lawyer says he got this information from a staff manager - that's just not a credible source in my book. We were first told by multiple senators' offices that they were indeed following NOA1 dates. This information was provided to the senators by the CSC. But it turned out to be untrue. In fact, the only way Gary and I have been able to get a response, at all, from our senator's office is because they are so angry that they were lied to. Other people have posted what their lawyers have sworn to be the truth and others here swear by what they read in the official IMBRA memo. The truth seems to be that processing is still entirely random, but of course to keep all of us off their backs (and to keep the senators and congressmen off their backs) they are surely attempting to process in some

sort of equitable manner. But I have a hard time believe it's a strict policy. In the end, of course I hope and pray you are right. But the reality is that they screwed this up from the beginning and it's hard to imagine that they are trying to make it right now by actually going in order.

I guess enough said. They ARE going by noa1 again, you can see that from the past few days.

actually I wish they were not, because I am a mid May filer, so I have to wait now

[sbgwolf1 0]

I guess enough said. They ARE going by noa1 again, you can see that from the past few days.

actually I wish they were not, because I am a mid May filer, so I have to wait now

I will leave that alone, but I truly shouldnt....yet I am in a good mood cuz I see my baby soon....anyone else??

wolf

[iceyspots 0]

He just simply said that they had stopped processing i129f's at the end of June and so when imbra's started to be "Recieved" the first couple days of July that they processed those REGARDLESS of noa1 date. NOW, that they all IMBRAS have been recieved they are going back to noa1 date NOT rfe date.

YES, their are exceptions to this and the system is not good. However their was a reason that their were may's ahead of march's if the may noa1 RFE was RECIEVED by the CSC in late June or early July (june29-july8th). Like I said I am sure their are examples where this wasnt true. This is just what a staff manager at the CSC said. AND yes, it is 3rd hand.

Please dont critisize me, I am just telling you what I heard. To me it makes a little sense.

Like Wolf said, it's not meant as offense to you. It's just that one lawyer says he got this information from a staff manager - that's just not a credible source in my book. We were first told by multiple senators' offices that they were indeed following NOA1 dates. This information was provided to the senators by the CSC. But it turned out to be untrue. In fact, the only way Gary and I have been able to get a response, at all, from our senator's office is because they are so angry that they were lied to. Other people have posted what their lawyers have sworn to be the truth and others here swear by what they read in the official IMBRA memo. The truth seems to be that processing is still entirely random, but of course to keep all of us off their backs (and to keep the senators and congressmen off their backs) they are surely attempting to process in some

sort of equitable manner. But I have a hard time believe it's a strict policy. In the end, of course I hope and pray you are right. But the reality is that they screwed this up from the beginning and it's hard to imagine that they are trying to make it right now by actually going in order.

I guess enough said. They ARE going by noa1 again, you can see that from the past few days.

actually I wish they were not, because I am a mid May filer, so I have to wait now

Um?? I am a February filer and i'm still waiting. I *wish* NOA1 dates were followed.

[GaryC 7]

Um?? I am a February filer and i'm still waiting. I *wish* NOA1 dates were followed.

I hear ya Icey!

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Although our list is just a fraction of the petitions approved by CSC, the lawyer may well have received some credible information. Besides 31 Jul and 01 May, where there were several May and a few Jun NOA1s approved, there have been very little approvals outside of March and April. There are a few June NOA1 sprinkled in here and there but March and April now reign supreme. We'll see as more approvals come in...

Edited August 22, 2006 by Uling

[William33 110]

To the OP: this is not an assault on you. You were just passing information that you heard.

For everyone, consider this:

This my post to the same topic from the IMBRA Issues topic:

The bottom line is this, they (USCIS) fcuked up the entire IMBRA process.

They were not ready to implement IMBRA to begin with, then,

They sent IMBRA RFE's out in a random order, then thought to process based upon receipt date.

Now, apparently, they are processing many March and April cases. Track the latest approvals to validate this statement.

Everyone will get done, but, at the end of the day, it should have been done in order.

RFE issuance by NOA-1 date, further processing by RFE return date.

If we did this type of shoddy work in our jobs, we would be shown the door. Simple as that.

[ronin308 0]

Hey, CSC is truely random and crazy. After forwarding my paperwork to Vermont for some reason I was put back in queue with those of an NOA-1 over 6 months after mine.

I'm at 13 months with no RFE for anything. Last I heard they're finally processing.

[kitkat1 5]

Hey, CSC is truely random and crazy. After forwarding my paperwork to Vermont for some reason I was put back in queue with those of an NOA-1 over 6 months after mine.

I'm at 13 months with no RFE for anything. Last I heard they're finally processing.

Edging out Icey and waitingincolo as the person (people) who have been the MOST screwed over by USCIS . . . .introducing: RONIN308!!!!

So sorry to hear your horrible story - hope your approval is next!!!

[MrLonely 0]

I have been out of the loop now for 2 weeks......then I caught this thread by 777...........

does anyone know or heard from lawyers if the clerks at the CSC or Vermont service centers are assigned strickly by visa types........in other words......are a group of clerks assigned to K1 visas only and another group works on emplyment type visas.....etc....etc...........or do these clerks work on all types of visas from one week to the next?????

I am in management.........if there was a severe work stoppage at one point.....these clerks would have had to continue working on something..........i am sure that they just did not sit in their cubacles and played solitaire on their computers for weeks and weeks.........

I am wondering if they were simply pulling files at random to show angry senators that they were in fact doing something at these service centers...........then once all the managers got their s*it together and finally made some solid decisions the clerks were given marching orders again to follow the original NOA1 dates...........

dwar.........can you add any insight to this theory?????????

I am just thinking out loud as a manager.........my job is to keep workers working regardless of what comes up during the day or the week.........

Kit or Gary........what are your senators telling you at this point??????Did they get a copy of ulings approval listing????????

Mike

[theresa 0]

It looks like they are approving Noa1 date of early April. This is only based on recent approval patterns in this forum.

[Clare-n-Lisa 0]

As I see it. I am glad they are going by NOA1 dates (if in fact they are???) I do not want to slip in, in front of the older petitioners. Just like I don't want petitioners that have filed after me get approved before me. The only thing that should disrupt the flow is RFE's and I'm not only referring to the IMBRA fiasco. Any RFE can kick your petition out of the consecutive flow. That’s why it is soooooooo important to get your petition correct the first time.

Clare

[michellek1976 0]

I hope the speculation about beginning to follow NOA1 dates is true. It makes sense.

You think they might want to get the processing dates to reflect something besides 6 March! I imagine they are receiving a lot of heat from their superiors, senators and disgruntled customers.

It's like the staff blind-fold each other then spin around three times before randomly grabbing a file from the shelf.