sending I-130 tomorrow

[Miss smarty pants 84]

Ok....I have decided to go this app alone. Aside from a boatload of bonafide proofs, the documents I am sending are these:

I-130

G325 for him with one passport photo

g325 for me with one passport photo

copy of Moroccan marriage certificate

copy of Certified english translation of Moroccan marriage certificate

copy of my US birth certificate

copy of my prior US divorce certificate

copy of all pages of my US passport (for primary evidence as well as citizenship)

Of course, because it's a Mena country and this is round two for us...

My bonafide proofs are:

copies of boarding passes and luggage tags,

copies of restaurant and hotel receipts,

train tickets (his and mine together),

rental car receipts from all the trips,

wedding ring receipts,

sixty of our best pictures (4 per page copied with color printer with dates, names, and places),

my last 12 months phone bills,

every tenth page of our chats from the first 8 months of our relationship,

20 letters from friends and family attesting their knowledge of our relationship,

all of skype call records since March (can't get previous because comp crashed)

Am I missing anything? Now, from what I have read, I think I am supposed to wait to send affidavit of support until NVC stage. Is that right? I am planning to send this out in the morning so I'm joining you all here now.

[LADYDARE 28]

And the check for $355 of course.

[thekfc 26]

Do not forget Form G-1145, E-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance.

[LotofPatience 65]

Good luck!

Prepare a cover letter to include all those content.

Loto

[Miss smarty pants 84]

Good luck!

Prepare a cover letter to include all those content.

Loto

Ok. Thank you guys. Now I wait for the affidavit of support or send it now and then update at NVC stage?

[New Beginnings 32]

Ok. Thank you guys. Now I wait for the affidavit of support or send it now and then update at NVC stage?

Wait for that. That will be done at the NVC stage

[DebbyNSeyi 15]

Ok....I have decided to go this app alone. Aside from a boatload of bonafide proofs, the documents I am sending are these:

I-130

G325 for him with one passport photo

g325 for me with one passport photo

copy of Moroccan marriage certificate

copy of Certified english translation of Moroccan marriage certificate

copy of my US birth certificate

copy of my prior US divorce certificate

copy of all pages of my US passport (for primary evidence as well as citizenship)

Of course, because it's a Mena country and this is round two for us...

My bonafide proofs are:

copies of boarding passes and luggage tags,

copies of restaurant and hotel receipts,

train tickets (his and mine together),

rental car receipts from all the trips,

wedding ring receipts,

sixty of our best pictures (4 per page copied with color printer with dates, names, and places),

my last 12 months phone bills,

every tenth page of our chats from the first 8 months of our relationship,

20 letters from friends and family attesting their knowledge of our relationship,

all of skype call records since March (can't get previous because comp crashed)

Am I missing anything? Now, from what I have read, I think I am supposed to wait to send affidavit of support until NVC stage. Is that right? I am planning to send this out in the morning so I'm joining you all here now.

I have the same story as you...k1 denied and returned, hired a lawyer to assemble and send rebuttal package, ended up marrying and filing I-130 myself - no attorney...you have everything you need PLUS the support of all of us here at VJ...GOOD LUCK!!!

[Miss smarty pants 84]

I have the same story as you...k1 denied and returned, hired a lawyer to assemble and send rebuttal package, ended up marrying and filing I-130 myself - no attorney...you have everything you need PLUS the support of all of us here at VJ...GOOD LUCK!!!

Thanks. I think I have a bit more knowledge than I did back when I filed the k-1 too.

[SweetHome_Alabama 5]

We are CR-1 and at the Interview stage now. Here is my opinion and of course we all have one.... I know there has been many discussions on VJ about front-loading petitions with too much or not enough evidence and some not wanting to share too much personal information with strangers on the other end of the NVC and USCIS and CO's at interview, but the way I look at it, if it is their job to determine if we are a genuine couple or marriage partner, they can't determine this with 'No Knowledge mailed in with our petitions.

....Tonight as I talked with NVC operator about questions with my husbands interview only being 4 weeks away and if he waits for a medical packet 4 to take for his medical they told me NO that the e-mail appointment letter with the medical Dr's link is his PACKET 4!

I asked about all our original documents if he should have another copy and she said no, they have been processed at NVC and they will forward them to the consulate. I then asked her if he is suppose to bring more evidence of our marriage/relationship such as up-to-date e-mails, phone records etc and she said "NO, it is not required!", so my theory is this....the more you send at your petition stage at USCIS when you file the petition for your spouse/fiance...the better you should be to PROVE your relationship. If you wait and bring it with you to the interview, it is really up to the CO's discretion if they want to take the time to process it at this stage of the process. That is why sometimes they refuse to look at what they brought and sometimes they WILL look at your evidence. Sometimes, we questioned how some VJ'rs were approved without showing one photo or evidence at the interview stage and was approved. Maybe, just maybe they do already pretty much know if you will be approved before the interview ever starts unless your man really looks nervous or like he is hiding something. ....I have to admit, i had not read VJ or was a member when I sent the original petition so I sent e-mails and chat records for almost every single day for that first year and including when we first started talking....I did not cross out any text.....hope they didn't get to embarressed and hope they didn't mind reading through the issues with the teenage kids and problems with the Ex, etc and work related issues. problems with the racists brother. We never fought...Only had one disagreement and it was my fault I overacted without talking to him first. USCIS or NVC or the consulate may not read it all....but it was available to them to try and to get to know us through our conversations and "DAILY LIFE" to prove a fraud marriage or relationship.......I sincerely hope we do not get a denial by being honest.

[Miss smarty pants 84]

We are CR-1 and at the Interview stage now. Here is my opinion and of course we all have one.... I know there has been many discussions on VJ about front-loading petitions with too much or not enough evidence and some not wanting to share too much personal information with strangers on the other end of the NVC and USCIS and CO's at interview, but the way I look at it, if it is their job to determine if we are a genuine couple or marriage partner, they can't determine this with 'No Knowledge mailed in with our petitions.

....Tonight as I talked with NVC operator about questions with my husbands interview only being 4 weeks away and if he waits for a medical packet 4 to take for his medical they told me NO that the e-mail appointment letter with the medical Dr's link is his PACKET 4!

I asked about all our original documents if he should have another copy and she said no, they have been processed at NVC and they will forward them to the consulate. I then asked her if he is suppose to bring more evidence of our marriage/relationship such as up-to-date e-mails, phone records etc and she said "NO, it is not required!", so my theory is this....the more you send at your petition stage at USCIS when you file the petition for your spouse/fiance...the better you should be to PROVE your relationship. If you wait and bring it with you to the interview, it is really up to the CO's discretion if they want to take the time to process it at this stage of the process. That is why sometimes they refuse to look at what they brought and sometimes they WILL look at your evidence. Sometimes, we questioned how some VJ'rs were approved without showing one photo or evidence at the interview stage and was approved. Maybe, just maybe they do already pretty much know if you will be approved before the interview ever starts unless your man really looks nervous or like he is hiding something. ....I have to admit, i had not read VJ or was a member when I sent the original petition so I sent e-mails and chat records for almost every single day for that first year and including when we first started talking....I did not cross out any text.....hope they didn't get to embarressed and hope they didn't mind reading through the issues with the teenage kids and problems with the Ex, etc and work related issues. problems with the racists brother. We never fought...Only had one disagreement and it was my fault I overacted without talking to him first. USCIS or NVC or the consulate may not read it all....but it was available to them to try and to get to know us through our conversations and "DAILY LIFE" to prove a fraud marriage or relationship.......I sincerely hope we do not get a denial by being honest.

Thank you for sharing your story with me. Best wishes to you at your upcoming interview.

[Lovebirds2009 3]

this is why is good not to read this posts when i sent first,VERY FIRST THING which was I 130 for CR1 visa,that was in dec of 2009,I only sent I 130,passport pics,marriage cert,my proof of citizenship,my soc sec number(copy) my passport copy,a check 355$ and this forms(forgot the name-biometrics-one for me and one for my husband) So i sent only what it said on their website!!! I didn't know for this site then

And I've never had anything returned,anything asked from me to be sent,that was missing or similar.And we're done in 6 mos.

So I see people are sending here proofs of marriages other than it's asked for,cover letters etc...IT says there if you send anything that is not asked for-it will delay your case.I know you all do it because you want to get your visas as fast as you can and be sure to get them but it's nerve wrecking when you are reading stuff here and don't know what to send,because people are sending all kinds of stuff,instead of just sending what is required by them...So what I wanted to say is-I sent just exactly what they asked me to,no any other extra proof of anything and here we are,done and over with

[Lovebirds2009 3]

We are CR-1 and at the Interview stage now. Here is my opinion and of course we all have one.... I know there has been many discussions on VJ about front-loading petitions with too much or not enough evidence and some not wanting to share too much personal information with strangers on the other end of the NVC and USCIS and CO's at interview, but the way I look at it, if it is their job to determine if we are a genuine couple or marriage partner, they can't determine this with 'No Knowledge mailed in with our petitions.

....Tonight as I talked with NVC operator about questions with my husbands interview only being 4 weeks away and if he waits for a medical packet 4 to take for his medical they told me NO that the e-mail appointment letter with the medical Dr's link is his PACKET 4!

I asked about all our original documents if he should have another copy and she said no, they have been processed at NVC and they will forward them to the consulate. I then asked her if he is suppose to bring more evidence of our marriage/relationship such as up-to-date e-mails, phone records etc and she said "NO, it is not required!", so my theory is this....the more you send at your petition stage at USCIS when you file the petition for your spouse/fiance...the better you should be to PROVE your relationship. If you wait and bring it with you to the interview, it is really up to the CO's discretion if they want to take the time to process it at this stage of the process. That is why sometimes they refuse to look at what they brought and sometimes they WILL look at your evidence. Sometimes, we questioned how some VJ'rs were approved without showing one photo or evidence at the interview stage and was approved. Maybe, just maybe they do already pretty much know if you will be approved before the interview ever starts unless your man really looks nervous or like he is hiding something. ....I have to admit, i had not read VJ or was a member when I sent the original petition so I sent e-mails and chat records for almost every single day for that first year and including when we first started talking....I did not cross out any text.....hope they didn't get to embarressed and hope they didn't mind reading through the issues with the teenage kids and problems with the Ex, etc and work related issues. problems with the racists brother. We never fought...Only had one disagreement and it was my fault I overacted without talking to him first. USCIS or NVC or the consulate may not read it all....but it was available to them to try and to get to know us through our conversations and "DAILY LIFE" to prove a fraud marriage or relationship.......I sincerely hope we do not get a denial by being honest.

that is exactly what it is! You can tell in 5 minutes od someones interview whether it's fake or there's lots of love in it.IN 5 MINUTES!!!So that is why some people need more proof and some almost nothing.And no,you will not get denied if everything else is fine because EXACTLY THOSE THINGS are proof it's not fake!

[hamigirl710 112]

this is why is good not to read this posts when i sent first,VERY FIRST THING which was I 130 for CR1 visa,that was in dec of 2009,I only sent I 130,passport pics,marriage cert,my proof of citizenship,my soc sec number(copy) my passport copy,a check 355$ and this forms(forgot the name-biometrics-one for me and one for my husband) So i sent only what it said on their website!!! I didn't know for this site then

And I've never had anything returned,anything asked from me to be sent,that was missing or similar.And we're done in 6 mos.

So I see people are sending here proofs of marriages other than it's asked for,cover letters etc...IT says there if you send anything that is not asked for-it will delay your case.I know you all do it because you want to get your visas as fast as you can and be sure to get them but it's nerve wrecking when you are reading stuff here and don't know what to send,because people are sending all kinds of stuff,instead of just sending what is required by them...So what I wanted to say is-I sent just exactly what they asked me to,no any other extra proof of anything and here we are,done and over with

I understand what you are saying but for me and others here Morocco is a difficult consulate to navigate and the proof is needed because it seems to be that lately the IO has already made up their mind about the Visa before they even get to the interview by what has been enclosed with the petition.

The guide for CR1 says to include proof of bonafide marriage

http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

15. Evidence of a bonafide marriage (see note below for what to include)

Note: Evidence of a Bonifide Marriage

The USCIS now requires that when filing an I-130 for a spouse that you include evidence of a bonifide marriage. They list examples of acceptable evidence as:

1. Documentation showing joint ownership or property; or

2. A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence; or

3. Documentation showing co-mingling of financialresources; or

4. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, thepetitioner, and your spouse together; or

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties havingpersonal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritalrelationship (Each affidavit must contain the full nameand address, date and place of birth of the person makingthe affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and detailsexplaining how the person acquired his or herknowledge of your marriage); or

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that thereis an ongoing marital union.

so in my opinion it is necessary to front load the application especially for MENA countries.

[DebbyNSeyi 15]

I understand what you are saying but for me and others here Morocco is a difficult consulate to navigate and the proof is needed because it seems to be that lately the IO has already made up their mind about the Visa before they even get to the interview by what has been enclosed with the petition.

The guide for CR1 says to include proof of bonafide marriage

http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

15. Evidence of a bonafide marriage (see note below for what to include)

Note: Evidence of a Bonifide Marriage

The USCIS now requires that when filing an I-130 for a spouse that you include evidence of a bonifide marriage. They list examples of acceptable evidence as:

1. Documentation showing joint ownership or property; or

2. A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence; or

3. Documentation showing co-mingling of financialresources; or

4. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, thepetitioner, and your spouse together; or

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties havingpersonal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritalrelationship (Each affidavit must contain the full nameand address, date and place of birth of the person makingthe affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and detailsexplaining how the person acquired his or herknowledge of your marriage); or

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that thereis an ongoing marital union.

so in my opinion it is necessary to front load the application especially for MENA countries.

And let me add - West African countries too. Lots of fraud=lots of proof needed.

[Miss smarty pants 84]

that is exactly what it is! You can tell in 5 minutes od someones interview whether it's fake or there's lots of love in it.IN 5 MINUTES!!!So that is why some people need more proof and some almost nothing.And no,you will not get denied if everything else is fine because EXACTLY THOSE THINGS are proof it's not fake!

Not always. And you can't say you won't get denied if everything else is fine either......it depends on a large variety of things. Is the CO having a bad day? Is the beneficiary nervous or didn't sleep much the night before? Was there a bad match in name checks? There are a whole bunch of reasons legitimate relationships get denied. Some countries are harder to go through than others.

Anyway~ the website does also ask for bonafide evidences. People whose spouses are overseas are not likely to have joint bank accounts or leases so we usually have to include the rest instead. Better safe than sorry. And if it slows down my app. by a few weeks, then so be it. I'd rather be slowed down than returned. At the last interview they wouldn't even look at anything. So this time I'm sending it all up front.

Edited August 28, 2010 by i luv my fiance