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Hi there

I will appreciate if u can kindly advice for my situation below:

My greencard expire date : Sept 17, 2010

Planning to file I-751 date : Jun 18, 2010

Travelling period : Sept 2 to 22nd, 2010

During filing and waiting period for I-751 approval, can I travel outside of USA? What evidence or supporting document should I need in order for me to re-enter USA?

Is NOA1 document allow me to re-enter USA? Or I will need get a stamp in my passport from infopass?

Thanks for help and time.


K1 Timeline:
I129 sent: 18th Apr 2007
NOA1 receipt date: 24th Apr 2007
Touched: 24th Apr 2007, 14/15th Aug 2007
NOA2: 17th Aug 2007
Received NVC letter: 7th Sept 2007
Received Packet 3: 2nd Oct 2007
Sent Packet 3: 4th Oct 2007; Called USE Malaysia: 12th Oct 2007
Received Packet 4: 23rd Oct 2007
Medical Appointment: 29th Oct 2007
Interview date: 15th Nov 2007; Visa Pick Up Date: 19th Nov 2007
USA Entry: 1st Dec 2007
Married: 5th of Dec 2007
AOS
7th Jan 2008 : AOS, AP, EAD Filing (sent by Fedex)
17th Jan 2008 : NOA1s of AOS, AP & EAD (Cheque cashed)
22nd Jan 2008 : AOS, AP, EAD touched
22nd Jan 2008 : Apply SSN
12th Feb 2008 : Biometrics Appt date (letter received: 28th of Jan)
Received SSN : 28th Jan 2008
13th Feb 2008 : I-485 & I-765 touched
27th Feb 2008 : I-765 Card sent from CRIS Email. I-765 & I-131 touched
4th Mar 2008 : I-765 touched
5th Mar 2008 : I-131 Received in Mail; I-765 touched
7th Mar 2008 : I-765 received in Mail
22nd Mar 2008: Passed driving written test
8th Apr 2008: Passed Driving test on road
6th May 2008: Received Driving license card
17th Sept 2008: Received Greencard (expired: 9/17/2010)
I-751
18th June 2010: Sent out I-751 package (By USPS)
21st June 2010: NOA1
23rd June 2010: Cashed check
19th July 2010: Received Biometrics letter, and schedule date: 8/12/10
23rd July 2010: Early Biometrics, touched. 7/26: Touched again
16th/23rd Sept 2010: Touched
27th Sept 2010: Received Greencard

N-400

2nd June 2015: Sent out N-400 application package (By Fedex, delivered: June 4); June 8, check cashed

5th June 2015: Received NOA

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Upon receiving the I-751 receipt notice, you will not have a problem re-entering the US with your expired green card and the original extension letter. Having said that, you will face a major problem with the air lines at your port of departure of the country you are visiting, as most of them do not recognize the letter of extension and don't consider it a valid document of re-entering the US, and their whole concern will be the EXPIRED green card, and then your journy of frustreation on explaining the whole thing will begin(Don't blame them as they are trained to do their job that way).

Then your only way of getting out of that country will be the issuance of (Letter of Transportation) and that's another whole story. You have to apply for it at the American embassy in the hosting country and you have to fullfill their requirements( and BTW it cost a good amount of them $$$ lol), it will take 2 weeks from the day applied, and depending on your interview (if you qualify and fullfill the requiremnts for that at first) an approval or denial will follow.

Good Luck

Edited by me&me

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ghana
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Upon receiving the I-751 receipt notice, you will not have a problem re-entering the US with your expired green card and the original extension letter. Having said that, you will face a major problem with the air lines at your port of departure of the country you are visiting, as most of them do not recognize the letter of extension and don't consider it a valid document of re-entering the US, and their whole concern will be the EXPIRED green card, and then your journy of frustreation on explaining the whole thing will begin(Don't blame them as they are trained to do their job that way).

Then your only way of getting out of that country will be the issuance of (Letter of Transportation) and that's another whole story. You have to apply for it at the American embassy in the hosting country and you have to fullfill their requirements( and BTW it cost a good amount of them $$$ lol), it will take 2 weeks from the day applied, and depending on your interview (if you qualify and fullfill the requiremnts for that at first) an approval or denial will follow.

Good Luck

Wow lets slow down a bit here. The OP should have no problem whatsoever coming back. What do you mean by (Don't blame them as they are trained to do their job that way).?

Ofcourse they must be blamed for not knowing what they are doing. If that's how they're trained, then they are being trained wrong and someone has to be held responsible. The extension letter clearly states that the bearer is allowed work and travel. If any one can't understand simple english at the departing airport, the OP has to ask for a supervisor.

His/her only way of getting out of that country will be a travel document from the embassy ONLY if they lose their greencard and extension letter while in the foreign country. No embassy will grant you a travel document when you have an expired green card and an extension letter that clearly says you can travel for another year.

This whole process is stressful enough so let's try not to make others panic unnecessarily.

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:thumbs: agreed!

Wow lets slow down a bit here. The OP should have no problem whatsoever coming back. What do you mean by (Don't blame them as they are trained to do their job that way).?

Ofcourse they must be blamed for not knowing what they are doing. If that's how they're trained, then they are being trained wrong and someone has to be held responsible. The extension letter clearly states that the bearer is allowed work and travel. If any one can't understand simple english at the departing airport, the OP has to ask for a supervisor.

His/her only way of getting out of that country will be a travel document from the embassy ONLY if they lose their greencard and extension letter while in the foreign country. No embassy will grant you a travel document when you have an expired green card and an extension letter that clearly says you can travel for another year.

This whole process is stressful enough so let's try not to make others panic unnecessarily.


AOS

02/25/08 sent AOS packet

02/26/08 packet received chicago lockbox

03/03/08 NOA(I-485,I765,I131)for daughter and myself

03/09/08 received biometrics appointment letter

03/25/08 RFE recieved for NOA for I129F(USCIS lost it! DOH!)

03/25/08 RFE sent

03/26/08 biometrics appointment(YAY!)

03/26/08 EAD touched(for daughter and myself)

03/28/08 EAD touch again!

04/03/08 RFE received case processing resumes

04/29/08 request AP expedited

05/01/08 AP sent out

05/02/08 case transfered to CSC

05/02/08 EAD card production ordered

05/05/08 EAD card production ordered again

05/10/08 EAD card received

05/16/08 AOS touched

05/18/08 AOS touched again!

06/11/08 AOS card production ordered!

06/16/08 green card received in mail!!

no more USCIS for almost 2 years!!

ROC

04/07/10 sent I-751 to VSC

04/09/10 NOA recieved

04/13/10 cheque cashed

05/17/10 early biometrics

06/29/10 card production ordered

07/10/10 card received

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Japan
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My greencard expire date : Sept 17, 2010

Planning to file I-751 date : Jun 18, 2010

Travelling period : Sept 2 to 22nd, 2010

Yes, you'll be fine with expired GC and NOA.

And according to your AOS local office (CA), I assume you are CSC filer.

CSC's processing time is currently 2 to 3 months.

If you are lucky enough, you'll receive your new card before your travelwink.gif

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Hi there, thanks for the information.

With NOA for a year extension, would that be more secure to schedule infopass to have a stamp on the passport before I go on travel?

Kindly advice.


K1 Timeline:
I129 sent: 18th Apr 2007
NOA1 receipt date: 24th Apr 2007
Touched: 24th Apr 2007, 14/15th Aug 2007
NOA2: 17th Aug 2007
Received NVC letter: 7th Sept 2007
Received Packet 3: 2nd Oct 2007
Sent Packet 3: 4th Oct 2007; Called USE Malaysia: 12th Oct 2007
Received Packet 4: 23rd Oct 2007
Medical Appointment: 29th Oct 2007
Interview date: 15th Nov 2007; Visa Pick Up Date: 19th Nov 2007
USA Entry: 1st Dec 2007
Married: 5th of Dec 2007
AOS
7th Jan 2008 : AOS, AP, EAD Filing (sent by Fedex)
17th Jan 2008 : NOA1s of AOS, AP & EAD (Cheque cashed)
22nd Jan 2008 : AOS, AP, EAD touched
22nd Jan 2008 : Apply SSN
12th Feb 2008 : Biometrics Appt date (letter received: 28th of Jan)
Received SSN : 28th Jan 2008
13th Feb 2008 : I-485 & I-765 touched
27th Feb 2008 : I-765 Card sent from CRIS Email. I-765 & I-131 touched
4th Mar 2008 : I-765 touched
5th Mar 2008 : I-131 Received in Mail; I-765 touched
7th Mar 2008 : I-765 received in Mail
22nd Mar 2008: Passed driving written test
8th Apr 2008: Passed Driving test on road
6th May 2008: Received Driving license card
17th Sept 2008: Received Greencard (expired: 9/17/2010)
I-751
18th June 2010: Sent out I-751 package (By USPS)
21st June 2010: NOA1
23rd June 2010: Cashed check
19th July 2010: Received Biometrics letter, and schedule date: 8/12/10
23rd July 2010: Early Biometrics, touched. 7/26: Touched again
16th/23rd Sept 2010: Touched
27th Sept 2010: Received Greencard

N-400

2nd June 2015: Sent out N-400 application package (By Fedex, delivered: June 4); June 8, check cashed

5th June 2015: Received NOA

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Filed: Other Timeline

If you file by June 18, you should have your new Green Card by September 2. But even if not, the NOA1 extends the validity of your old Green Card until September 17, 2011 and I have never heard that somebody at an international airport can't read an English letter from the United States Citizen and Immigration Service stating exactly that. Thousands of immigrants travel like this for many years now. I think it's safe to assume that you won't have any problems either.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ghana
Timeline

Well that was my 2 cents from my OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE (as I've been there, done that), and good luck to all.

Can you elaborate a little bit on your experience? Which one of the examples you gave did you experience? Or both? You weren't allowed to leave your country because you had an expired green card and NOA? Or you had to pay LOTS OF $$$$ to get a travel document from the American embassy like you said.

You may have a case against the embassy if the embassy took your money knowing very well you had the appropriate documents to travel and didn't need any travel document.

Edited by w8inglongtime

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Hi there, thanks for the information.

With NOA for a year extension, would that be more secure to schedule infopass to have a stamp on the passport before I go on travel?

Kindly advice.

I tried to do this when I was leaving the US with NOA1 and greencard. I saw people who got a stamp even when they already had NOA1, so I was motivated and I scheduled an infopass to get a stamp. The IO told me she'd give me a stamp but she will take the expired GC and NOA1 away! That was the case in the Jacksonville office.

Ofcourse i chose to keep my GC. Went home and came back without any problems. Folks at the airport in both Egypt and Amsterdam totally understood NOA1. I don't know what kind of "negative experience" M&M is referring to.

Edited by Okalian

Wife's I-130:

03/15/2019 NOA1 (Nebraska Service Center)

02/11/2020 Case transferred to Vermont Service Center

02/02/2021 NOA2 الحمد لله

02/04/2021 Approval email
02/12/2022 NVC documents submitted

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