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Hmm. I'm confused about what's needed for my step-daughter (she's 9). She only got a letter extending the expiration on her green card, my wife got a NOA and appointment time for biometrics and a more official looking letter extending her green card.

We showed up for my wife's appointment with my step-daughter in tow, thinking she would have her biometrics taken, too. Well, they wouldn't take my daughter's since she didn't have an appointment letter. I then made an INFOPASS appointment to talk with an IO, and she stated that since my step-daughter was under 14, she didn't need biometrics, contrary to what is stated on http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f858d59cb7a5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

Base petition fee plus $80 biometric services fee for all conditional resident applicants. Each conditional resident child listed under Part 5 of this form who is a dependent seeking to remove their conditional status, is required to submit an additional biometric services fee of $80, regardless of age.

What I'm worried about is what if my step-daughter's appointment letter was lost in the mail and since she missed her appointment is considered to have abandoned the green card process?


Adjustment of Status / EAD / AP
Day 000: 2007-12-27 Mailed Application
Day 002: 2007-12-29 Received at Chicago Lockbox
Day 003: 2007-12-30 "Received Date"
Day 007: 2008-01-03 All 5 NOAs (K1 + K2 AOS, K1 EAD, K1 + K2 AP)
Day 008: 2008-01-04 K-2 AOS Touched
Day 011: 2008-01-07 $1610 Check cleared
Day 011: 2008-01-07 All 5 physical NOAs received
Day 012: 2008-01-08 K-1 files Touched, but not K-2
Day 014: 2008-01-10 K-2 AP Touched
Day 016: 2008-01-12 Biometrics Appt. Letter Received
Day 029: 2008-01-25 Biometrics Appt.
Day 043: 2008-02-08 K-2 Notice of interview received
Day 044: 2008-02-09 K-1 Notice of interview received
Day 056: 2008-02-21 APs approved and EAD card production ordered
Day 126: 2008-05-01 Interviews
-----------------------------------------------------------
K1/K2 Application
Day 000: 2007-03-16 Sent out I-129F Package
Day 012: 2007-03-28 NOA1
Day 082: 2007-06-06 NOA2
Day 103: 2007-06-27 NVC Received
Day 105: 2007-06-29 NVC Forwarded to Montreal
Day 117: 2007-07-11 Montreal Sends Packet 3
Day 125: 2007-07-19 Receive Packet 3
Day 129: 2007-07-23 Send Checklist and Forms Back
Day 131: 2007-07-25 Montreal Receives Packet 3
Day 137: 2007-07-31 Medical
Day 169: 2007-09-01 "Wedding" (aka the $10K party)
Day 192: 2007-09-24 Receive "Packet 4" (Interview letter)
Day 238: 2007-11-09 Interview in Montreal
Day 245: 2007-11-16 Visas Received
Day 248: 2007-11-19 Moved to USA
Day 249: 2007-11-20 Legal wedding


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My son is 6 years old and he had to have his biometrics done. As far as what I have read and asked on here, all children need them done. When I was at the biometrics appointment there was another couple there with their 4 or 5 year old and he was having his done too. I don't know what visa they were going for but the child needed his biometrics done as well. I would print out everything you can on the USCIS website about children and biometrics and see if you can get another infopass appointment and speak to someone else. I know how frustrating it is to have to go back there, believe me, but if your step-daughter needs the biometrics done, you do everything you can to get it done. That way, as you said, you didn't just abandoned the card process. I hope this helps.


Here's my K-1 Timeline:

October 2006 - I-129F sent

10/24/2007 - INTERVIEW DATE!!!!!....APPROVED!!

10/30/2007 - Visa in hand!

AOS Timeline:

1/30/08 - Sent AOS pkg Priority Mail with USPS

3/12/08 - Biometrics taken

3/29/08 - EAD and AP in hand for me and my son

5/21/08 - Email-GC on its way!...RFE for my son's application

5/27/08 - GC arrives!!!

7/02/08 - Sons GC arrives!!!

ROC TIMELINE

3/23/10 - ROC sent!

3/29/10 - NOA1

4/22/10 - Biometrics Appt for me and my son

6/30/10 - Email saying card production ordered for me and my son

7/6/10 - Letter in the mail saying cards will arrive within 60 days

7/10/10 - Both cards received!

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Hmm. I'm confused about what's needed for my step-daughter (she's 9). She only got a letter extending the expiration on her green card, my wife got a NOA and appointment time for biometrics and a more official looking letter extending her green card.

We showed up for my wife's appointment with my step-daughter in tow, thinking she would have her biometrics taken, too. Well, they wouldn't take my daughter's since she didn't have an appointment letter. I then made an INFOPASS appointment to talk with an IO, and she stated that since my step-daughter was under 14, she didn't need biometrics, contrary to what is stated on http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f858d59cb7a5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

What I'm worried about is what if my step-daughter's appointment letter was lost in the mail and since she missed her appointment is considered to have abandoned the green card process?

NO - children under 14 do not require a biometrics - or let me state it in a better way - children under 14 do not always require a biometrics. Once the wife gets approved, the child will get automatically approved. The IO at your infopass appointment is correct.

Many people were in the same situation and their children did not require a biometrics.

You can relax about it :)

hope this helps

Edited by v333k

N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline

I was worried about the same thing when I took my biometrics. Had my 8 y/o daughter skip school thinking that she will take biometrics too even if she didn't have an appointment. She didn't do biometrics but her permanent resident card arrived in the mail the same time mine did, it was a month or so after i had my biometrics done. Hang in there, your cards will be in the mail soon! God bless! :dance:

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My son is 6 years old and he had to have his biometrics done. As far as what I have read and asked on here, all children need them done. When I was at the biometrics appointment there was another couple there with their 4 or 5 year old and he was having his done too. I don't know what visa they were going for but the child needed his biometrics done as well. I would print out everything you can on the USCIS website about children and biometrics and see if you can get another infopass appointment and speak to someone else. I know how frustrating it is to have to go back there, believe me, but if your step-daughter needs the biometrics done, you do everything you can to get it done. That way, as you said, you didn't just abandoned the card process. I hope this helps.

You are wrong. MOST children going for ROC are not required to get their biometrics done.

USCIS takes the fee, but often does not make appointments for children.


Naturalization

Son's N-400 Timeline

08/14/2020 - Sent N-400 and I-912 waiver to TX lockbox

09/18/2020 - NOA via text

06/05/2021 - Notification of biometrics scheduled

09/17/2021 - Interview - decision cannot be made

11/24/2021 - Denial letter, 30 days to appeal

12/24/2021 - Appeal sent back with I-912 waiver

12/24/2021 - Motion to terminate deportation proceedings from 2013 filed

 

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Thanks everyone! You've put my mind at ease, at least. It's just lovely that they are taking money for a service that isn't being performed, though.


Adjustment of Status / EAD / AP
Day 000: 2007-12-27 Mailed Application
Day 002: 2007-12-29 Received at Chicago Lockbox
Day 003: 2007-12-30 "Received Date"
Day 007: 2008-01-03 All 5 NOAs (K1 + K2 AOS, K1 EAD, K1 + K2 AP)
Day 008: 2008-01-04 K-2 AOS Touched
Day 011: 2008-01-07 $1610 Check cleared
Day 011: 2008-01-07 All 5 physical NOAs received
Day 012: 2008-01-08 K-1 files Touched, but not K-2
Day 014: 2008-01-10 K-2 AP Touched
Day 016: 2008-01-12 Biometrics Appt. Letter Received
Day 029: 2008-01-25 Biometrics Appt.
Day 043: 2008-02-08 K-2 Notice of interview received
Day 044: 2008-02-09 K-1 Notice of interview received
Day 056: 2008-02-21 APs approved and EAD card production ordered
Day 126: 2008-05-01 Interviews
-----------------------------------------------------------
K1/K2 Application
Day 000: 2007-03-16 Sent out I-129F Package
Day 012: 2007-03-28 NOA1
Day 082: 2007-06-06 NOA2
Day 103: 2007-06-27 NVC Received
Day 105: 2007-06-29 NVC Forwarded to Montreal
Day 117: 2007-07-11 Montreal Sends Packet 3
Day 125: 2007-07-19 Receive Packet 3
Day 129: 2007-07-23 Send Checklist and Forms Back
Day 131: 2007-07-25 Montreal Receives Packet 3
Day 137: 2007-07-31 Medical
Day 169: 2007-09-01 "Wedding" (aka the $10K party)
Day 192: 2007-09-24 Receive "Packet 4" (Interview letter)
Day 238: 2007-11-09 Interview in Montreal
Day 245: 2007-11-16 Visas Received
Day 248: 2007-11-19 Moved to USA
Day 249: 2007-11-20 Legal wedding


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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
Timeline

Thanks everyone! You've put my mind at ease, at least. It's just lovely that they are taking money for a service that isn't being performed, though.

don't forget that when the child turns 14, you need a new GC (with full biometrics) regardless of what it says on

the expiration date.

This is done via form I-90

Edited by payxibka

YMMV

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don't forget that when the child turns 14, you need a new GC (with full biometrics) regardless of what it says on

the expiration date.

This is done via form I-90

Thanks for that tidbit. However, in our case, my wife and step-daughter plan on naturalizing next year. I also find that a lovely convenience charging of fees. GC w/ conditions last for two years, so you have to remove conditions only one year before naturalization based on marriage. They'll likely have their 10 year GC for less than year before they naturalize.


Adjustment of Status / EAD / AP
Day 000: 2007-12-27 Mailed Application
Day 002: 2007-12-29 Received at Chicago Lockbox
Day 003: 2007-12-30 "Received Date"
Day 007: 2008-01-03 All 5 NOAs (K1 + K2 AOS, K1 EAD, K1 + K2 AP)
Day 008: 2008-01-04 K-2 AOS Touched
Day 011: 2008-01-07 $1610 Check cleared
Day 011: 2008-01-07 All 5 physical NOAs received
Day 012: 2008-01-08 K-1 files Touched, but not K-2
Day 014: 2008-01-10 K-2 AP Touched
Day 016: 2008-01-12 Biometrics Appt. Letter Received
Day 029: 2008-01-25 Biometrics Appt.
Day 043: 2008-02-08 K-2 Notice of interview received
Day 044: 2008-02-09 K-1 Notice of interview received
Day 056: 2008-02-21 APs approved and EAD card production ordered
Day 126: 2008-05-01 Interviews
-----------------------------------------------------------
K1/K2 Application
Day 000: 2007-03-16 Sent out I-129F Package
Day 012: 2007-03-28 NOA1
Day 082: 2007-06-06 NOA2
Day 103: 2007-06-27 NVC Received
Day 105: 2007-06-29 NVC Forwarded to Montreal
Day 117: 2007-07-11 Montreal Sends Packet 3
Day 125: 2007-07-19 Receive Packet 3
Day 129: 2007-07-23 Send Checklist and Forms Back
Day 131: 2007-07-25 Montreal Receives Packet 3
Day 137: 2007-07-31 Medical
Day 169: 2007-09-01 "Wedding" (aka the $10K party)
Day 192: 2007-09-24 Receive "Packet 4" (Interview letter)
Day 238: 2007-11-09 Interview in Montreal
Day 245: 2007-11-16 Visas Received
Day 248: 2007-11-19 Moved to USA
Day 249: 2007-11-20 Legal wedding


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Thanks for that tidbit. However, in our case, my wife and step-daughter plan on naturalizing next year. I also find that a lovely convenience charging of fees. GC w/ conditions last for two years, so you have to remove conditions only one year before naturalization based on marriage. They'll likely have their 10 year GC for less than year before they naturalize.

but naturalization is optional....

my son got his 10 yr card in November and turns 14 in September when we need top pay again... this is two months before his mother is eligible to naturalize (if that is what she decides). So if all goes, the he has his 10 yr card for a little more than a year, his replacement card because he turned 14 for a couple months and then naturalization if that is what is decided.

Edited by payxibka

YMMV

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Hey guys I am applying for green card for my self and my son. Yesterday my son got a Biometrics letter and he is only 5 years old. From my understanding and reading children under 14 do not require biometrics.

does anyone know anything about it?

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