Christian Group Launches New Attack on Christmas Commercialism

[alienlovechild 75]

Are there really people who hate christmas? We all know that December was chosen by Rome as the date to celebrate christ's birthday simply because there was already a winter solstice holiday at this time of year and the assimilation of pagans into Christianity was easier if these holidays were clouded over with christian symbolism. I always assumed that most people muddled along with this regardless of their belief because we essentially need a holiday at this time of year. I certainly don't begrudge this holiday although I don't think anyone should tell anyone else how they ought to celebrate it - or even if they should.

Don't expect the commercial aspect to disappear, at least not while the great consumerism reigns supreme. Consumerism isn't a sustainable economic model but it's the one that most people like because of this notion that anyone, given the right set of circumstances is capable of gaining enormous personal wealth. That's the hope most people chase after, and that's not about to change.

*raises hand proudly* I do. I hate (and I do mean that with as much spitfire and venom as I can muster-- and Platy has heard me talk about people, he knows what that means! Flaming badgers and moats for Christmas!!) every single thing about it. It is a disgusting affront to G-d and idolatry and there is not a single redeeming thing about it. I feel sorry (but not surprised) that the majority of "Christians" don't realize it, see the problem, or care. Christmas=pagan, through and through. Leave it for the pagans. Same with Easter. I have no idea why people so rabidly defend it, nor do I have any idea why they are so adamently co-opting it. We have our own holidays. Granted, people are breaking the eternal (yes, it says eternal-- is eternity over yet?) commandment and not celebrating them, but we do have our own. I don't care about having it as a paid day off or anything. I have always worked on it and this year I have it off-- and feel sad that I can't just defy it in my own one-person protest. would, and always have, work on it-- no problem.

You did ask. LOL. I normally don't get all up in this kind of stuff.

It is refreshing to see some raw hate that isn't soft peddled.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Are there really people who hate christmas? We all know that December was chosen by Rome as the date to celebrate christ's birthday simply because there was already a winter solstice holiday at this time of year and the assimilation of pagans into Christianity was easier if these holidays were clouded over with christian symbolism. I always assumed that most people muddled along with this regardless of their belief because we essentially need a holiday at this time of year. I certainly don't begrudge this holiday although I don't think anyone should tell anyone else how they ought to celebrate it - or even if they should.

Don't expect the commercial aspect to disappear, at least not while the great consumerism reigns supreme. Consumerism isn't a sustainable economic model but it's the one that most people like because of this notion that anyone, given the right set of circumstances is capable of gaining enormous personal wealth. That's the hope most people chase after, and that's not about to change.

*raises hand proudly* I do. I hate (and I do mean that with as much spitfire and venom as I can muster-- and Platy has heard me talk about people, he knows what that means! Flaming badgers and moats for Christmas!!) every single thing about it. It is a disgusting affront to G-d and idolatry and there is not a single redeeming thing about it. I feel sorry (but not surprised) that the majority of "Christians" don't realize it, see the problem, or care. Christmas=pagan, through and through. Leave it for the pagans. Same with Easter. I have no idea why people so rabidly defend it, nor do I have any idea why they are so adamently co-opting it. We have our own holidays. Granted, people are breaking the eternal (yes, it says eternal-- is eternity over yet?) commandment and not celebrating them, but we do have our own. I don't care about having it as a paid day off or anything. I have always worked on it and this year I have it off-- and feel sad that I can't just defy it in my own one-person protest. would, and always have, work on it-- no problem.

You did ask. LOL. I normally don't get all up in this kind of stuff.

PS--I hope you are enjoying your book and found it useful!

What Christianity celebrates on Christmas and Easter is not pagan beliefs. Christmas, regardless of the origin of its date (which is not the written in stone, established fact that it is commonly believed to be), is not about the winter solstice, but is a celebration of the Incarnation of Christ. Easter, likewise, is not about pagan celebrations of the coming of Spring, but is about the Resurrection of Christ. The Incarnation and the Resurrection weren't later inventions created to overshadow paganism, but were core doctrines of Christianity from its beginning. Take these away, and Christianity is reduced to little more than ethics.

[Dan J 277]

its Christmas. check your calendar dec. 25 every year.

Just did. Thank the Gods for Pagan calendars mine has the Yule on 12/21.

lemme know when you get paid days off for it.

Just because you get time off on the 25th doesn't mean you have to celebrate Christmas.

[Dan J 277]

*raises hand proudly* I do. I hate (and I do mean that with as much spitfire and venom as I can muster-- and Platy has heard me talk about people, he knows what that means! Flaming badgers and moats for Christmas!!) every single thing about it. It is a disgusting affront to G-d and idolatry and there is not a single redeeming thing about it. I feel sorry (but not surprised) that the majority of "Christians" don't realize it, see the problem, or care. Christmas=pagan, through and through. Leave it for the pagans. Same with Easter. I have no idea why people so rabidly defend it, nor do I have any idea why they are so adamently co-opting it. We have our own holidays. Granted, people are breaking the eternal (yes, it says eternal-- is eternity over yet?) commandment and not celebrating them, but we do have our own. I don't care about having it as a paid day off or anything. I have always worked on it and this year I have it off-- and feel sad that I can't just defy it in my own one-person protest. would, and always have, work on it-- no problem.

You did ask. LOL. I normally don't get all up in this kind of stuff.

PS--I hope you are enjoying your book and found it useful!

What Christianity celebrates on Christmas and Easter is not pagan beliefs. Christmas, regardless of the origin of its date (which is not the written in stone, established fact that it is commonly believed to be), is not about the winter solstice, but is a celebration of the Incarnation of Christ. Easter, likewise, is not about pagan celebrations of the coming of Spring, but is about the Resurrection of Christ. The Incarnation and the Resurrection weren't later inventions created to overshadow paganism, but were core doctrines of Christianity from its beginning. Take these away, and Christianity is reduced to little more than ethics.

All the Christian Christmas is, is the birth of Christ. Many of the traditions that are practiced part of Christmas, from Mistletoe to Santa Claus, have roots in pagan traditions.

[chri'stina 190]

What Christianity celebrates on Christmas and Easter is not pagan beliefs. Christmas, regardless of the origin of its date (which is not the written in stone, established fact that it is commonly believed to be), is not about the winter solstice, but is a celebration of the Incarnation of Christ. Easter, likewise, is not about pagan celebrations of the coming of Spring, but is about the Resurrection of Christ. The Incarnation and the Resurrection weren't later inventions created to overshadow paganism, but were core doctrines of Christianity from its beginning. Take these away, and Christianity is reduced to little more than ethics.

And things change over time. Growing up, my parents debated us having a Christmas tree because of hearing about pagan origins so they were not sure if we should as Christians. So we didn't. But then after I was about 10 yrs old we did start having a Christmas tree. My parents changed their minds and thought they were being silly all those years. We decorate it to celebrate the season of Christmas, which is now what it is for us, it's not anymore just a pagan holiday season and has not been for a very long time. Things change, people change customs, and I've heard things like candles on a birthday cake also are pagan so I wonder if people who hate Christmas for similar reasons also do not participate at all in any other things that might have originated from pagan beliefs.

I say, whatever. I celebrate Christ's birth at this time of year too, with a pure heart before God, always asking Him if I am doing things right. If I am wrong here, I don't think it's something that hampers my salvation but would be a forgivable sin - IF I am wrong. It's not customs that save us, it's our belief in who Jesus is.

Let's say in India when they celebrate a holiday called Holi, someone who is now a Christian wants to celebrate a Christian belief because they have now changed. Yet they want to dedicate that same important time of year to Jesus - what's the issue? That's how I also see the issue of a pagan time being turned into a Christian holiday. I have no problem with it.

Edited December 20, 2009 by chri'stina

[scandal 951]

*raises hand proudly* I do. I hate (and I do mean that with as much spitfire and venom as I can muster-- and Platy has heard me talk about people, he knows what that means! Flaming badgers and moats for Christmas!!) every single thing about it. It is a disgusting affront to G-d and idolatry and there is not a single redeeming thing about it. I feel sorry (but not surprised) that the majority of "Christians" don't realize it, see the problem, or care. Christmas=pagan, through and through. Leave it for the pagans. Same with Easter. I have no idea why people so rabidly defend it, nor do I have any idea why they are so adamently co-opting it. We have our own holidays. Granted, people are breaking the eternal (yes, it says eternal-- is eternity over yet?) commandment and not celebrating them, but we do have our own. I don't care about having it as a paid day off or anything. I have always worked on it and this year I have it off-- and feel sad that I can't just defy it in my own one-person protest. would, and always have, work on it-- no problem.

You did ask. LOL. I normally don't get all up in this kind of stuff.

PS--I hope you are enjoying your book and found it useful!

I actually thought Easter was the one genuine Christian holiday on the calendar?

It's timing in the spring roughly coincides with Passover, and Jesus' Last Supper was purportedly a Passover Seder.

The events of Good Friday, Easter Sunday and Easter Monday are linked to the Gospel stories of the Crucifixion and Resurrection, are they not? I didn't think that holiday has any pagan overtones.

Also, what other Christian holidays are there? I suppose Palm Sunday, Shrove Tuesday (Carnaval/Mardi Gras!!).

I find it interesting to hear Christians on this thread rejecting the symbolism of Christmas trees and the emphasis on gift giving.

I have a similar reaction to the "Christianization" of Hanukkah, with some Jews setting up Hanukkah Bushes (little evergreens decorated in blue/white tinsel) and giving gifts.

Neither of these was ever a part of Hanukkah. We have our own traditions with the lighting of candles for eight nights, spinning the dreidel, eating foods fried in oil (latkes, sufganiot), and giving hannukah gelt (either real coins, or chocolate coins) - do we really need to import the symbols of Christmas just because it's the dominant culture in the Diaspora? I say no, and never have.

Merry Christmas to all my Christian friends, or those who don't mind the greeting.

Happy Holiday Season to everyone else

[Nagishkaw 510]

The babe in the manger gets all the press, and we get all the presents. BTW, Jesus was a nice Jewish boy, and he celebrated Hannukah.

[christeen 966]

Why Were The Pagan Holidays and Festivals "Christianized"?

The Christianization of Pagan holidays began about the fourth century A.D. when the Roman Emperor Constantine, became (or feigned becoming) a Christian. In order to consolidate his rule, he incorporated the Pagan holidays and festivals into the church ritual - attracting the Pagans, but he gave the holidays and festivals new "Christian" names and identities - thus appeasing the Christians. Over the centuries, this practice has continued until the present time where we find the two systems, Paganism and Christianity, almost indistinguishable.

This is the Adversary's clever deception - Paganism dressed up in Christian clothes! It's still nothing more than Paganism, but the Christian churches have wholeheartedly embraced this deception.

Christmas: Is it "Christian" or Pagan?

The Bible does not tell us when Jesus was born. However, we know that the angels announced the birth of Christ to the Bethlehem shepherds in the open fields who were tending their flocks by night.. This fact certainly implies that the birth of Jesus could NOT have been on the 25th of December. "The cold of the night in Palestine between December and February is very piercing, and it was not customary for the shepherds of Judea to watch their flocks in the open fields later than about the end of October." Hislop, A., The Two Babylons, Loiseaux Brothers, Neptune, N.J. pg 91.

In addition, Jesus Himself said, in speaking of the coming destruction of Jerusalem,

"But pray that your flight be NOT in winter, neither on the Sabbathday."

Matt 24:20

Obviously, Jesus understood that the wintertime in Palestine was harsh enough to make traveling difficult and uncomfortable. If the winter was such a bad time in which to flee, it seems unlikely that the shepherds would be sleeping out in the fields while tending their sheep during that season.

Because of these facts, and others to be discussed, it is virtually impossible for the birth of Christ to have occurred on December 25.

"No such festival as Christmas was ever heard of until the THIRD century, and not until the FOURTH century was far advanced did it gain much observance.

"Long before the fourth century, and long before the Christian era itself, a festival was celebrated among the HEATHEN, at that precise time of the year, in honor oft the birth of the son of the Babylonian queen of heaven; and it may fairly be presumed that, in order to conciliate the heathen, and to swell the number of the nominal adherents of Christianity, the same festival was adopted by the Roman Church, giving it only the name of Christ. This tendency on the part of Christians to meet Paganism half-way was very early developed." Ibid, pg 93

It is beyond doubt that Christmas was originally a pagan festival. The time of the year and the ceremonies with which it is still celebrated, prove its origin.

Isis, the Egyptian title for the "queen of heaven," gave birth to a son at this very time, about the time of the winter solstice. The term "Yule" is the Chaldee (Babylonian) name for "infant" or "little child."

This pagan festival not only commemorated the figurative birthday of the sun in the renewal of its course, but it also was celebrated (on December 24) among the Sabeans of Arabia, as the birthday of the "Lord Moon."

In Babylon, where the sun (Baal) was the object of worship, Tammuz was considered the incarnation of the Sun.

"In the Hindu mythology, which is admitted to be essentially Babylonian, this comes out very distinctly. There, Surya, or the Sun, is represented as being incarnate, and born for the purpose of subduing the enemies of the gods, who without such a birth, could not have been subdued." Ibid pg 96

There are many other Christmas counterparts of the Babylonian winter solstice festival, such as: 1) candles lighted on Christmas eve and used throughout the festival season were equally lighted by the Pagans on the eve of the festival of the Babylonian god, to do honor to him, 2) the Christmas tree was equally common in Pagan Rome and Pagan Egypt. In Egypt that tree was the palm tree; in Rome it was the fir. The tree denoted the Pagan Messiah.

"The mother of Adonis, the Sun God and great mediatorial divinity, was mystically said to have been changed into a tree, and when in that state to have brought forth her divine son. If the mother was a tree, the son must have been recognized as the ŒMan of the branch." Ibid pg 97

The Yule log was considered the dead stock of Nimrod (or Tammuz, depending on the specific nation involved), deified as the sun god, but cut down by his enemies; the Christmas tree is Nimrod revived - the slain god come to life again.

The Yule occultic colors are red and green.

The mistletoe branch symbolized "the man, the branch" and was regarded as a divine branch - a corrupt Babylonian representation of the true Messiah. Both mistletoe and holly were considered fertility plants by the pagans.

"Babylon was, at that time, the center of the civilized world; and thus Paganism, corrupting the Divine symbol as it ever has done, had opportunities of sending forth its debased counterfeit of the truth to all the ends of the earth, through the Mysteries that were affiliated with the great central system in Babylon."

Ibid pg 99

The story of the death of Adonis, also known as Tammuz, involved a fatal wound from the tusk of a boar when Tammuz was 40 years old. That is why a boar was sacrificed on this Pagan holiday. Even today, a Christmas ham is a traditional favorite of many.

"According to a Roman almanac, The Christian festival of Christmas was celebrated in Rome by A.D. 336. During the 4th century the celebration of Christ's birth on December 25 was gradually adopted by most Eastern churches. In Jerusalem, opposition to Christmas lasted longer, but it was subsequently accepted.

"The traditional customs connected with Christmas have developed from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances at mid-winter. December 25 was regarded as the birthdate of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness. . . The ecclesiastical calendar retains numerous remnants of pre-Christian festivals—notably Christmas, which blends elements including both the feast of the Saturnalia and the birthday of the god Mithra." Encyclopedia Britannica, 1976 edition; Micropedia II, pg 903, Macropedia 15, pg 1063.

The much-loved hero of Christmas, Santa Claus, who "knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows when you've been bad or good" and who can circumnavigate the globe in one night, is nothing more than the Winter stag god, the god of the hunt, a "take-off" on the true God of heaven, who is omnipresent (everywhere at once), omniscient (knows all), and omnipotent (all powerful).

Santa has Eight Reindeer. Reindeer are symbolic of the Pagan Stag god. The number 8 is the number for a new beginning, and, when laid on its side, is the occultic symbol for Infinity.

There can be no doubt that the Pagan festival of the winter solstice—in other words, Christmas—was held in honor of the birth of the Babylonian Messiah.

The prophet Ezekiel is told by God to:

"Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they (the Israelites) do.

"Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord's house (the Temple) which was toward the north; and behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz (A Sumerian fertility god similar to the Greek god, Adonis)." Ezekiel 8:14

December 25 was also the Day of Saturnalia, a celebration dedicated to the Chief god, Saturn, during which time there was much drinking, many banquets, and presents were exchanged.

God is very clear in his directives against the celebration of this Pagan holiday that Christians now universally celebrate as Christmas. God calls this an abomination! Christians celebrate December 25th blindly believe they are honoring the birth of Jesus, when they are in reality honoring the Pagan god Tammuz.

In Jeremiah 10:1-4, we read:

"Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

"Thus saith the Lord, ŒLearn NOT the way of the heathen, and be NOT dismayed at the signs of heaven (the queen of heaven, Isis, worshiped by the heathen), for the heathen are dismayed at them.

"For the customs of the people are futile: for one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.

"They decorate it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."

There could be NO more specific description of a present-day Christmas, than this.

God says, "DON'T do it. This is Paganism!"

Easter: It's Totally Pagan too!

Easter is not a Christian name. It is Chaldean (Babylonian) in origin - the name Astarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven. The name Astarte, as found on the Assyrian monuments by the noted archeologist Layard, was the name Ishtar. The worship of Bel and Astarte was introduced very early into Britain, along with the Druids, "the priests of the groves," the high places where the pagans worshipped the idols of Baal. In the Almanac of the 1800's, May 1st is called Beltane, from the pagan god, Bel. The titles Bel and Molech both belong to the same god.

We must remember that Semiramis (also known as Ishtar) of Babylon, the wife of Nimrod and mother of Tammuz, was the same goddess worshiped throughout the world under various names, such as the Egyptian fertility god, Artemis, the Roman goddess of licentiousness, Venus, the Greek goddess of love, Aphrodite, and the Ephesian, many-breasted fertility god, Diana, as well as many others.

The (Easter) bunny, the oldest pagan symbol of fertility - Semiramis - has absolutely NOTHING to do with the birth of Christ.

Nor does the Sunrise service. Jesus was resurrected while it was still DARK!

"And early came Mary Magdalene, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre." John 20:1

Sunrise services are for the worship of the Pagan Sun god - ONLY! In addition, Jesus was NOT resurrected on Sunday, the first day of the week. Please see the study entitled "Was Jesus Really Resurrected on Sunday?" at www.goodnewsaboutgod.com

One mythological legend says that sometime after Semiramis died, a huge egg dropped from heaven. Out of the egg came a re-incarnated Semiramis, now a goddess. The Babylonian Talmud refers to her as Ishtar, or Easter.

The forty days of Lent symbolize one day for each year of Tammuz' life. This period of time is celebrated in the "Christian" church by giving up something to mourn the death - of Tammuz, the son of the pagan goddess Semiramis!

Ezekiel 8:13,14 tells us what God thinks about any festival that recognizes Tammuz:

"The Lord said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they (the Israelites) do.

Then He brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz."

As late as the 19th century, in Great Britain, at Beltan (or the 1st of May) a number of men and women assembled at an ancient Druidical circle of stones near Crieff, to participate in an ancient worship feast to Baal.

The festival of Pasch, or the Passover, was very early observed by many professing Christians, in commemoration of the death and resurrection of Christ, although it cannot be traced back as far as the Apostles. But Pasch was observed by Christians a full month before the festival of Ishtar was celebrated by the Pagans. In addition, the festival of Ishtar (Easter) now observed in churches is far different from the original festival of Pasch.

The amalgamation of the Christian Pasch, as observed in Britain by the Christians, and the Pagan Easter enforced by Rome, occurred by violence and bloodshed. But at last, the Festival of the Anglo-Saxon or Chaldean goddess, Ishtar, came to supersede that which had been held in honor of Christ.

"The hot cross buns of Good Friday, and the dyed eggs of Easter Sunday figured in the Chaldean rites just as they do today. The Œbuns,' known by the identical name, were used in the worship of the queen of heaven, the goddess Ishtar, as early as the days of Cecrops, the founder of Athens, that is, 1500 years BEFORE the Christian era. One species of sacred bread which used to be offered to the gods was called ŒBoun.'" Hislop, Two Babylons, pg 107.

"The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven. Jeremiah 7:18

The hot cross buns are not now offered, but eaten instead, on the festival of Easter (Astarte - Ishtar).

"The origin of the Pasch (Passover) eggs is just as clear. The ancient Druids bore an egg as the sacred emblem of their order. In the mysteries of Bacchus, as celebrated in Athens, one part of the nocturnal ceremony consisted in the consecration of an egg. The hindu fables celebrate their mundane egg as of a golden color. In China, even as late as the 19th century, dyed or painted eggs were used during sacred festivals.

"In ancient times, eggs were used in the religious rites of the Egyptians and the Greeks, and were hung up for mystic purposes in their temples. . . The classic poets are full of the fable of the mystic egg of the Babylonians.

"The occult meaning of the mystic egg of Astarte had reference to the ark during the time of the flood, in which the whole human race was shut up, as the chick is enclosed in the egg before it is hatched. And of course, the egg also refers to birth, or creation.

"Though the deified queen, whom Astarte represented, had no actual existence till some centuries after the flood, yet through the doctrine of metampsychosis, which was firmly established in Babylon, it was easy for her worshippers to be made to believe that, in a previous incarnation, she had lived in the Antediluvian world and passed safely through the waters of the flood. The Roman Catholic Church then adopted this mystic egg of Astarte, and consecrated it as a symbol of Christ's resurrection." Ibid pg 109,110.

The Bible clearly tells us what God considers the memorial of Christ's death and resurrection. It is NOT the pagan celebration of Easter, in honor of the pagan god, Ishtar. It is BAPTISM:

"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death?

Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that just as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

"For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection:

"Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed (rendered inoperative), that henceforth we should not be slaves of sin." Romans 6:3-6

The memorial for Christ's death and resurrection is BAPTISM - - - NOT Easter!

There is NO doubt that Easter is a totally Pagan holiday.

[Nagishkaw 510]

So is Christmas a pagan holiday or a Christian holiday? I say perhaps it is both. But it does get people to at least think about G-d, and that's a good thing.

Besides, Y'shua's birth and death is only half the story....what about the rest of it that's yet to come?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

No, it really IS "Happy Holidays". Not everyone is Christian (shocking, I know!), and there are several other holidays at or near the same time. Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, Yule, Winter Solstice, New Years....they're all around the same time.

Still, I won't beat you if you say Merry Christmas to me....just don't get all pissy if I reply back with Happy Holidays.

Merry Christmas................................Platy! After all being ####### over a few verbs is truly telling. Chop down a tree, put some shite under it and call it good! Just pretend kwanzza means christmas. Or visa versa.

[jundp 191]

What Christianity celebrates on Christmas and Easter is not pagan beliefs. Christmas, regardless of the origin of its date (which is not the written in stone, established fact that it is commonly believed to be), is not about the winter solstice, but is a celebration of the Incarnation of Christ. Easter, likewise, is not about pagan celebrations of the coming of Spring, but is about the Resurrection of Christ. The Incarnation and the Resurrection weren't later inventions created to overshadow paganism, but were core doctrines of Christianity from its beginning. Take these away, and Christianity is reduced to little more than ethics.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Please quit using the words pagan and quanzzzzza! they upset me terribly! I will turn you in if you use any other words I dislike.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

O Lord,

In this time of need, strengthen me. You are my strength and my shield; You are my refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. I know, Father, that Your eyes go to and fro throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts long for You. The body grows weary, but my hope is in You to renew my strength.

I do not fear, for You are with me.

I am not dismayed or overwhelmed, for You are my God. I know You will strengthen me and help me; that You will uphold me with Your righteous hand. Even as the shadows of illness cover me, I feel the comfort of Your strength, Or Lord.

Amen.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Houston, we have a meltdown...

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Houston, we have a meltdown...

Must be a biotch to have a ####### in your name!