Teacher under fire for his Cheney-9/11 theory

[yabasta 0]

http://www.total911.info/

Scroll down the main page to see a video interview with the man who has had his character attacked in this thread. I think it is fair to watch the man speak for himself.

[Alex+R 0]

http://www.total911.info/

Scroll down the main page to see a video interview with the man who has had his character attacked in this thread. I think it is fair to watch the man speak for himself.

All I got was a commercial for dental care?

[yabasta 0]

weird I get a website called http://www.total911.info/

I don`t know why it doesn`t work for you.

[Alex+R 0]

I get the website. The embedded video is a dental care commercial.

[yabasta 0]

try this

http://www.c3ktogo.com/

then go the the videos and look under

WISC TV3/UPN 14

the interview is under For The Record as UW Lecturer Kevin Barrett

I think the adverts might be before the video. To fund the videos perhaps.

or try

http://www.c3ktogo.com/video-player.php?id=4688

Edited July 24, 2006 by yabasta

[Alex+R 0]

Ah, watching it now. Thanks

[VivaMexico 0]

This guy is completely off his rocker! He is claiming the U.S. government needs to provide proof that they DIDN'T do it?!?!? Why doesn't he provide proof that they DID do it...oh wait...he can't, because they didn't.

[Fuzzness 2]

He is the one making accusations so he has to come up with the proof.

[VivaMexico 0]

He is the one making accusations so he has to come up with the proof.

No kidding! I just sat here and watched him say that it is obvious beyond a reasonable doubt that the government blew up the world trade center. His "evidence" is that the FBI seized video tapes from nearby businesses. DUH! what the heck does he think the FBI does near a crime scene??

Being from Minnesota I never held Wisconsin in high esteem, so this confirms my suspicions of their education

[yabasta 0]

Well if you watch the whole interview he mentions more than that fact. Picking out one thing of all the things he mentions in a short interview is not a very clever way to base an opinion on his views. Perhaps your education was not as good as you think. He is being "attacked" for discussing 9/11. As he says in the interview he covers 9/11 as part of a war on terror section in a course on Islam. He has views based on his research which he mentions in the interview. You ignore most of what he says. The point about the FBI seizing the tapes was that those tapes have not been shown. The point was that a much better view of what hit the Pentagon should exist and probably does exist and people are not shown it because of course the "fuckups" mentioned earlie ri guess. All the cameras were turned off perhaps? oops.

[VivaMexico 0]

Well if you watch the whole interview he mentions more than that fact. Picking out one thing of all the things he mentions in a short interview is not a very clever way to base an opinion on his views. Perhaps your education was not as good as you think. He is being "attacked" for discussing 9/11. As he says in the interview he covers 9/11 as part of a war on terror section in a course on Islam. He has views based on his research which he mentions in the interview. You ignore most of what he says. The point about the FBI seizing the tapes was that those tapes have not been shown. The point was that a much better view of what hit the Pentagon should exist and probably does exist and people are not shown it because of course the "fuckups" mentioned earlie ri guess. All the cameras were turned off perhaps? oops.

Well, I happened to live near the pentagon and work in the capitol the day it happened. I saw the plane skim over the Capitol, and I saw the light poles that were sheared off when the plane (commandeered by Islamic extremists) went over the highway and slammed into the pentagon. I also personally know people that saw it hit. So one crazed lunatic from Wisconsin who throws out ridiculous ####### doesn't deserve to be educating 18 year olds who are paying for an education.

[Mirorgate 0]

http://www.cruisegazing.com/RPG_Motivational/delicate.jpg

ayup.... the topic is kinda like that.

[yabasta 0]

Well, I happened to live near the pentagon and work in the capitol the day it happened. I saw the plane skim over the Capitol, and I saw the light poles that were sheared off when the plane (commandeered by Islamic extremists) went over the highway and slammed into the pentagon. I also personally know people that saw it hit. So one crazed lunatic from Wisconsin who throws out ridiculous ####### doesn't deserve to be educating 18 year olds who are paying for an education.

If a plane hit the Pentagon, and for the record he does not say for certain that he believes it to be a missile, then why have they not released a decent quality video of it? How did it get into that small hole without markign the lawn? Why did they resurface the lawn despite it not being touched? If you know people who saw it hit then where were they standing? Did they video it by any chance? How come some people saw a smaller plane? Why didn`t the hijackers aim for the roof if it was a plane? The roof is an easier target which would do more damage (most likely) and be much easier to hit if you are a bad pilot (as the guy apparently was). It stinks of a cover up. Also isn`t the Pentagon meant to the most highly defended building anywhere? I mean the idea that any aircraft came near the Pentagon without authorisation just doesn`t make sense. It must be one of Artegals "fuckups". Yeah they were all watching thw twin towers smoke on TV when a plane hit their newly reinforced wall.

You launch personal character attacks and yet you don`t even have an argument apart from i saw a plane fly by and a friend saw it hit. Eyewitness testimony would be great but sadly eye witnesses don`t agree on this. Seeing a plane overhead doesn`t mean that it hit the Pentagon. That is not to rule out the possiiblity but i would still like to know how it made that little hole and what happened to the wings. As Kevin Barrett said though he could not say for certain what happened there. This is the man you claim to be off his rocker yet he has more of a balanced mind than you have as you have no room for inquiry or questions.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Well, I happened to live near the pentagon and work in the capitol the day it happened. I saw the plane skim over the Capitol, and I saw the light poles that were sheared off when the plane (commandeered by Islamic extremists) went over the highway and slammed into the pentagon. I also personally know people that saw it hit. So one crazed lunatic from Wisconsin who throws out ridiculous ####### doesn't deserve to be educating 18 year olds who are paying for an education.

As I said before, just because he holds beliefs contrary to those of most people concerning what actually happened on 9/11 doesn't mean that he shouldn't be teaching. As long as he is able to stay away from actually indoctrinating his students, there's nothing wrong with him telling them about his doubts. If nothing else, it shows them the value of analyzing facts and coming to logical conclusions.

I'm always surprised how willingly many people in this country accept whatever is fed to them by the media. Part of the problem is that the education system does not encourage critical thinking. Many of my students have to learn how to question authority (in this case, me) because while they worked hard in highschool and made it into a good university, their teachers spoon-fed them facts for the next test. For many freshman, being confronted with teachers who don't continue telling them the same old thing over again is an eye-opener and they start to look at the world differently and to investigate why people believe certain things. Having this "crazed lunatic" as a professor for a semester will make them most likely better citizen of a democratic society.

Finally, to the 9/11-discussion. I think it is all a question of degree. I'm very unhappy with the official version of what happened and who did since I sat down in front of a TV on the morning of the attacks. Not because I don't want to believe the official story, but because I'm concerned with the way the story became official before the first tower collapsed and there was no indication who had done it. Regardless, every single person on TV was yapping about the evil Muslims even though it could as well have been some crazed US-terror group (which do exist). After all that we have found out since then, I'm still not sure what to think because while it seems obvious who did it, it is not clear in how far the current administration is implicated. Stalling an independent inquiry for years did not convince me that they are to be trusted, nor did the fact that the president and his advisors overlook the warning signs which did exist and were presented to them make me disavow the possibility of their complicity.

It is good that people disagree on this, in the same way as it was good that there were people who didn't believe that the Spaniards blew up the Maine back in 1898 because it helped us to eventually find out the real causes for the Spanish American War and the beginning of the so-called American century.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Being from Minnesota I never held Wisconsin in high esteem, so this confirms my suspicions of their education

America's best colleges 2006

34 Univ. of Wisconsin – Madison

74 Univ. of Minnesota – Twin Cities