Fiancee Visa or Tourist Visa?????

[ohnodidit 0]

Hi Guys

This is my first time posting BUT everyone I know says this is the place to get my questions answered.

Story is I met a Moroccan man in Italy while I was on vacation in April. Obviously now you need a visa to get to the US now from Morocco and we are trying to figure out what path to take. I have just gotten back from a second visit with him and we are ready to take another step at the first of the year BUT really want to do the right and least timely thing. I have concerns about bringing someone here on a fiancee visa for two reasons a) he is moving to another country without EVER visiting and B) I am not TODAY comfortable with having to get married in 90 days. The other issue is that a fiancee visa is not really an option now because I am in the middle of a divorce. Hopefully it will be final before the end of the year but as of today I could not legally apply anyway so it is kind of a moot point. That being said, we HATE being separated as I am sure all of you know........it is very difficult and it gets expensive traveling back and forth to Italy. SOOOOO we were thinking that MAYBE just MAYBE he should try a tourist or student visa BEFORE we do the fiancee visa. That way he could visit and give him an opportunity to come to the US sooner for an extended stay 30 days or so. I also of course be willing to write the sponsorship letter for him, in fact I was thinking of being brutally honest about how and where we met and that we were trying to be responsible and then just plain out BEGGING LOL! Wellllllll I have now been advised against this bc obviously I am reason enough for him to stay illegally even tho he would not do BUT that it may red flag him for a future visa and lead to a denial on a fiancee visa. The general consensus seems to be he will get denied bc he fits the profile of what they are NOT approving, single, 30 year old man who is Muslim. He has the financial capabilities and he also owns a home in Morocco and his family is there (bc he is not an Italian citizen, he must file from Morocco) Anyway my question is with all the experience you all have had should we pursue the visa/student option and admit I am in the picture? OR just wait it out and apply for fiancee visa in January/Feb? Do you think we could encounter problems with trying to do the responsible thing for us now????

All thoughts are appreciated.

Eden

[amykathleen2005 441]

I certainly would have him visit on a tourist visa to make sure he is comfortable moving to America as well as give you the chance to get to know him better. As you said, if you are not comfortable getting married in the 90 days then that visa is not the one for you. The visa is only for this who already to get married and is not really supposed to be for a "getting to know you" kind of thing.

I don't know really where you would be able to have a student visa come into play unless he was already planning on being a student this year. It seems to be a little late to apply for university now as it is already the end of August and school is starting and it takes time to get that kind of visa.

I certainly would have him visit on a tourist visa to make sure he is comfortable moving to America as well as give you the chance to get to know him better. As you said, if you are not comfortable getting married in the 90 days then that visa is not the one for you. The visa is only for this who already to get married and is not really supposed to be for a "getting to know you" kind of thing.

I don't know really where you would be able to have a student visa come into play unless he was already planning on being a student this year. It seems to be a little late to apply for university now as it is already the end of August and school is starting and it takes time to get that kind of visa.

[Leo&Farah 0]

There is no harm trying for a tourist visa as denial of it will not affect your fiance visa in the future or have any negative impact. They are two very different visas with two very different criteria to satisfy.

As you pointed out, a fiance visa is kinda moot and I think you have already answered your question by stating how you are not comfortable with the marital leap and the what ifs accompanying him moving to a whole new country.

My only concern is making sure you don't lie when you do apply for the tourist visa. About your involvement in it and your existence as they seem to keep records of things like that and it very often bites people back in the #### when things really matter.

A house is not good enough proof of solid ties to home country as the CO told me at my tourist visa application that 'it can be managed from overseas' when I brought up owning land here to prove I would come back. Then again, it varies wildly from person to person and embassy to embassy as its purely subjective.

The other usual things would be letter from employer stating leave of absence and date of resuming work as well as letter of offer to show how long he has been working. Pay slips to show he has substantial income. Pictures of his family. House deeds, membership cards with substantial duration, leases, financial commitments like loans, itinerary, credit card/debit card statements to show permanent address and how long he has lived there etc.

Good luck to you in whatever you choose.

[ohnodidit 0]

I certainly would have him visit on a tourist visa to make sure he is comfortable moving to America as well as give you the chance to get to know him better. As you said, if you are not comfortable getting married in the 90 days then that visa is not the one for you. The visa is only for this who already to get married and is not really supposed to be for a "getting to know you" kind of thing.

I don't know really where you would be able to have a student visa come into play unless he was already planning on being a student this year. It seems to be a little late to apply for university now as it is already the end of August and school is starting and it takes time to get that kind of visa.

I certainly would have him visit on a tourist visa to make sure he is comfortable moving to America as well as give you the chance to get to know him better. As you said, if you are not comfortable getting married in the 90 days then that visa is not the one for you. The visa is only for this who already to get married and is not really supposed to be for a "getting to know you" kind of thing.

I don't know really where you would be able to have a student visa come into play unless he was already planning on being a student this year. It seems to be a little late to apply for university now as it is already the end of August and school is starting and it takes time to get that kind of visa.

Thank you for all the good information, I really appreciate it so I guess my next question is then do I or not get involved with the sponsorship letter and acknowledge our relationship or just stay out of it all together and see what happens?

[Anh map 2,098]

He files on his own merits.

You may want to visit the MENA (Middle East North Africa) regional forum for specific feedback regarding Morocco.

Best of luck

[amykathleen2005 441]

Sorry, just realized I somehow double posted and sounded quite illiterate there. That is what I get for multi-tasking....

[ohnodidit 0]

He files on his own merits.

You may want to visit the MENA (Middle East North Africa) regional forum for specific feedback regarding Morocco.

Best of luck

Thank you and I have reposted there!

[Bluerose001 4]

Hi!

I certainly do agree with what our fellow VJers have posted here.

It would be best to have him apply for a B2 Tourist visa first before you take the next step and go for the K1 visa.

Having him visit your place would give him first hand experience on how it is there. I visited my fiance before he petitioned me and it was really an eye opener for me going there, gave me a forcast on how my life would be in the US.

I think it was also good since I was able to take pictures with his parents and we presented it in our visa application, it helped alot as we were approved within 2 months of application (one of the fastest!)

Goodluck on your journey!

Bluerose