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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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OP, although everyone can sympathize with the family traumas that you have just revealed, the answers that you have received here will not change. Objectively, you are in violation of a legal agreement that you made with the U.S. government, and your wife's well-being is at risk, as a result. The advice of contacting an attorney (as a priority) is very good.

The reason that people are responding as they are -- even the "self-aggrandizing, condescending, pompous buffoons" (LOVE that description) -- is that they see the objective peril of the situation, coupled with an arguably cavalier reaction to it (and to the advice) on your part.

No one can add much to what has already been recommended to you. If you choose to risk traveling with your out-of-status wife, please report the results to the peanut gallery whom you consulted in the first place.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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If you were married within 90-day period after arriving at the POE, there is no time limit when to file for AOS.

IS THAT TURE???NO TIME LIMIT FOR FILE FOR AOS???

NO IT IS NOT TRUE. Although they will accept an AOS application ater your I-94 expires without requiring an I-130 application, you are out of status and deportable ater the I-94 expires. As long as you married within the 90 days, you may file for AOS anytime aterwards, even if you are out of status. That does NOT mean that you have any protection from problems arising from your lack of legal status.

The "time limit" to remain in status is clearly spelled out on the I-94--the expiration date.

05/16/2005 I-129F Sent

05/28/2005 I-129F NOA1

06/21/2005 I-129F NOA2

07/18/2005 Consulate Received package from NVC

11/09/2005 Medical

11/16/2005 Interview APPROVED

12/05/2005 Visa received

12/07/2005 POE Minneapolis

12/17/2005 Wedding

12/20/2005 Applied for SSN

01/14/2005 SSN received in the mail

02/03/2006 AOS sent (Did not apply for EAD or AP)

02/09/2006 NOA

02/16/2006 Case status Online

05/01/2006 Biometrics Appt.

07/12/2006 AOS Interview APPROVED

07/24/2006 GC arrived

05/02/2007 Driver's License - Passed Road Test!

05/27/2008 Lifting of Conditions sent (TSC > VSC)

06/03/2008 Check Cleared

07/08/2008 INFOPASS (I-551 stamp)

07/08/2008 Driver's License renewed

04/20/2009 Lifting of Conditions approved

04/28/2009 Card received in the mail

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OP, although everyone can sympathize with the family traumas that you have just revealed, the answers that you have received here will not change. Objectively, you are in violation of a legal agreement that you made with the U.S. government, and your wife's well-being is at risk, as a result. The advice of contacting an attorney (as a priority) is very good.

The reason that people are responding as they are -- even the "self-aggrandizing, condescending, pompous buffoons" (LOVE that description) -- is that they see the objective peril of the situation, coupled with an arguably cavalier reaction to it (and to the advice) on your part.

No one can add much to what has already been recommended to you. If you choose to risk traveling with your out-of-status wife, please report the results to the peanut gallery whom you consulted in the first place.

Agreed. The OP seems to believe USCIS gives a hoot about anyone's personal problems. They don't. Rules are clear, and are there for a reason. I've said to exhaustion: you don't have to like them, but you bet your youknowwhat you have to follow them. Or not follow them, try to hoodwink USCIS and face the music. And it won't be a ballad, I guarantee you that.

As for the peanut gallery; we always love some entertainment from people who decided to overlook that they got into an agreement with the US government. So bring it on ;)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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we always love some entertainment from people who decided to overlook that they got into an agreement with the US government. So bring it on ;)
Si, man. :)

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Ok, I might be having a brain fart right now (my kids say "mommy's brain went on vacation" - haha), but I just want to clear something up. Partly just for curiosity (we're past the AOS point, and made sure to send his AOS packet well under the 90 days of his arrival), and partly to clear it up for people who actually need to know. I was under the impression that there was no real deadline, but just "the sooner the better". Now it seems there is/has been actually a 90 day limit for both the marriage and filing for AOS?

Ok, when someone gets here, they get their I-94 with a date written in. My husband's had a date written in for 90 days after arrival, which was also the deadline for our marriage. Is that always the case (a 90 day I-94 for a K-1)? If someone waited until day 90 to get married, they'd have to stop off at the post office that day to mail the package to avoid being out of status (which would be very difficult, if not impossible, because of needing a copy of the marriage certificate)?

I think the answers for all of those are "yes", but just wanted to make sure.

venusfire

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met online May 2006

visited him in Morocco July 2006

K-1 petition sent late September 2006 after second visit

December 2006 - third trip - went for his visa interview (stood outside all day)

visa approved! arrived here together right before Christmas 2006

married January 2007

AOS paperwork sent February 2007

RFE (yipee)

another RFE (yikes)

AOS approval July 2007

sent Removal of Conditions paperwork 01 May 2009

received I-751 NOA 14 May 2009

received ASC appt. notice 28 May 2009

biometrics appt. 12 June 2009

I-751 approval date 25 Sept 2009 (no updates on the system - still says 'received'/"initial review")

19 Oct 2009 - got text message "card production ordered"

24 Oct 2009 - actual card in the mail box!

sent his N-400 - 14 May 2010

check cashed 27 May 2010

NOA received 29 May 2010 (dated 24 May)

Biometrics Appointment Letter received 17 June 2010

Biometrics scheduled for 08 July 2010; walk-in successfully done in Philadelphia 07 July 2010

02 Oct 2010 - FINALLY got email saying the case was being transferred to the local office. Hoping to get his interview letter soon...

05 Oct 2010 - received interview letter!!!!

08 November 2010 - scheduled for N-400 interview

- went together for interview; file isn't there - need to wait to be rescheduled

Jan 2011 - went for Infopass

25 Feb 2011 - interview

19 April 2011 - Infopass

8 July 2011 - HE'S FINALLY A CITIZEN - WOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

30 July 2011 - citizenship party

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Ok, I might be having a brain fart right now (my kids say "mommy's brain went on vacation" - haha), but I just want to clear something up. Partly just for curiosity (we're past the AOS point, and made sure to send his AOS packet well under the 90 days of his arrival), and partly to clear it up for people who actually need to know. I was under the impression that there was no real deadline, but just "the sooner the better". Now it seems there is/has been actually a 90 day limit for both the marriage and filing for AOS?

Ok, when someone gets here, they get their I-94 with a date written in. My husband's had a date written in for 90 days after arrival, which was also the deadline for our marriage. Is that always the case (a 90 day I-94 for a K-1)? If someone waited until day 90 to get married, they'd have to stop off at the post office that day to mail the package to avoid being out of status (which would be very difficult, if not impossible, because of needing a copy of the marriage certificate)?

I think the answers for all of those are "yes", but just wanted to make sure.

venusfire

You seem to have it clear now.

05/16/2005 I-129F Sent

05/28/2005 I-129F NOA1

06/21/2005 I-129F NOA2

07/18/2005 Consulate Received package from NVC

11/09/2005 Medical

11/16/2005 Interview APPROVED

12/05/2005 Visa received

12/07/2005 POE Minneapolis

12/17/2005 Wedding

12/20/2005 Applied for SSN

01/14/2005 SSN received in the mail

02/03/2006 AOS sent (Did not apply for EAD or AP)

02/09/2006 NOA

02/16/2006 Case status Online

05/01/2006 Biometrics Appt.

07/12/2006 AOS Interview APPROVED

07/24/2006 GC arrived

05/02/2007 Driver's License - Passed Road Test!

05/27/2008 Lifting of Conditions sent (TSC > VSC)

06/03/2008 Check Cleared

07/08/2008 INFOPASS (I-551 stamp)

07/08/2008 Driver's License renewed

04/20/2009 Lifting of Conditions approved

04/28/2009 Card received in the mail

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Here is a link to an explanation of the consequences of an illegal entry (which now includes the OP's wife). If you read further on down the page you will see the consequences of an unlawful overstay. His wife is now facing a 10 year bar. DaSweetSpot, you really do need to contact an attorney.

Unlawful Entry and Unlawful Overstay of a Visa

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Kenya
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Ok, I might be having a brain fart right now (my kids say "mommy's brain went on vacation" - haha), but I just want to clear something up. Partly just for curiosity (we're past the AOS point, and made sure to send his AOS packet well under the 90 days of his arrival), and partly to clear it up for people who actually need to know. I was under the impression that there was no real deadline, but just "the sooner the better". Now it seems there is/has been actually a 90 day limit for both the marriage and filing for AOS?

Ok, when someone gets here, they get their I-94 with a date written in. My husband's had a date written in for 90 days after arrival, which was also the deadline for our marriage. Is that always the case (a 90 day I-94 for a K-1)? If someone waited until day 90 to get married, they'd have to stop off at the post office that day to mail the package to avoid being out of status (which would be very difficult, if not impossible, because of needing a copy of the marriage certificate)?

I think the answers for all of those are "yes", but just wanted to make sure.

venusfire

I think you have it wrong. From what I have learned, first, if you file AOS before the 90 days, then you're good to go. Yes you go into out of status mode but you can offset this with a copy of the NOA1 of the AOS petition.

Many folks have no problem when they file for AOS for a few days after the 90 day limit. Again, the NOA1 is your "temporary receipt" (my words) and is not a visa nor anything else.

But, there is no set time limit. I do not know how many days beyond the 90 day limit you will be allowed to extend before they will not adjust you and deport you. I know about the 180 day limit but that's for something else. No you do not have another 90 days; no one stated that and definately CIS does not.

So in some places you are given a ticket for driving 1 mile over the speet limit and in others you can go up to 10.

The BEST advice is to file before the 90 day limit, meaning you marry before that also. That is what we are planning on doing.

And, I have already begun to complie those documents and information and checklists which I will use to aid me. They will also come in handy if my life takes a turn for the worse and I can not devote full time to the process.

I take the process seriously and have looked at what I need to do in the future; and did this before I jumped in.

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Other than what I should have done, Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I think the only thing you CAN do now ... is file for AOS as soon as possible ...

Until then she will be "out of status" ... at least when you file the AOS she will be "status pending" ... a much better position to be in ...

I know you said money is tight ... and I understand about that ... but make this a top priority and get it done ASAP ...

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