New 2009 guidlines !!!!!!

[MatthewKMC 0]

Thank you for all the responces. How many month's would I have to work for the second employer,before I can submit the paystub's & letter from the employer?

[scandal 951]

And while I am on my soap box...let me tell you something, the only thing ##### about these qualificaion numbers is that if you think you can really support a wife or family on these numbers, you are in for a big surprise. I earn MANY MANY times the amount needed for my family of 4 and we certainly are not "affluent". We have a budget and follow it closely. If you make 4-5 times the minimum it will not be enough for a comfortable life. You know you have to fork out another $1010 when she arrives, yes? And you know after you do this you have to meet the guidelines again with the I-864 form, yes? And you know there are there are many more expenses yet to come, yes? Maybe you have no clue what happens when a woman moves halfway 'round the world to be with you. My wife came with clothes and nothing else. What can they bring? Her electrical appliances wouldn't work here (except her computer) so we spent nearly $1000 the first two days she was here just to replace all the things she couldn't bring. Hey, blow dryers and irons and etc. etc adds up quick, and you think a bachelor has the stuff a woman needs? Dreamer.

So, you're one of those who think finding a spouse from some other country actually means acquiring a pet who just wantswantswants, needsneedsneeds, asksasksasks and demandsdemandsdemands and, therefore, you need to be making a fortune in order to pay for all those wishes and demands?

What if the person who's actually coming to the States has some, y'know, skills and knowledge and can live with just those clothes or whatever they bring until they're ready to start legally working? Believe it or not, there are so many of us.

I don't expect blow driers and irons to be bought for me when I arrive. We'll see if WE can buy those, or anything else we'll want, once I start contributing to our family budget. Or, you know, I might not even come there with a bag full of my clothes and just 50 cents to my name, in the first place.

But yes, we're all different, I know. Some things just make me sick more than the others.

I totally agree. I'm certainly not arriving empty handed. And anything I can't bring by way of electicals that have different voltage...well, if WE can't replace those at once I am prepared to wait until WE can. I'm fairly sure I can manage to live without a blow dryer.

Hmm.. Well I think I have to disagree. Not on the basis of curling irons etc. But really on the basis of why we have the support requirements in the first place.

I fundamentally I accept Gary's soapbox position.

Hey, there's a reason for the minimums. And there's a reason they're baaed on POVERY guidelines. POVERTY, right? Do you really want to live that close to the edge, and bring someone else to share in that status?

Moreover, if you (not a specific 'you', just those defending living on the minimums) wish to do so, that's your business ... until it affects taxpayers.

The purpose for the support affidavit is to ensure that this new immigrant to the US will not immediately be accepting welfare, Medicaid or other public assistance. There are millions of Americans unfortunately needing these underfunded programs already.

US Immigration law recognizes the right of US Citizens to be reunited with their loved ones. But only insofar as they can support them without public assistance. Why should I as a taxpayer have to subsidize your lifestyle and your choices? If you really can't afford, quite literally, to marry and be with your loved one, well - you wouldn't be the first. In times gone by people would WAIT to marry and start families when they could afford to.

If you can meet the thresholds on your own or find a co-sponsor to shoulder the responsibility jointly, fine. Welcome to America. But if you can't, why should you expect the taxpayer to effectively be your co-sponsor?

We've got enough corporate welfare cases on Wall Street these days. Who needs more?

[ntinda 0]

And while I am on my soap box...let me tell you something, the only thing ##### about these qualificaion numbers is that if you think you can really support a wife or family on these numbers, you are in for a big surprise. I earn MANY MANY times the amount needed for my family of 4 and we certainly are not "affluent". We have a budget and follow it closely. If you make 4-5 times the minimum it will not be enough for a comfortable life. You know you have to fork out another $1010 when she arrives, yes? And you know after you do this you have to meet the guidelines again with the I-864 form, yes? And you know there are there are many more expenses yet to come, yes? Maybe you have no clue what happens when a woman moves halfway 'round the world to be with you. My wife came with clothes and nothing else. What can they bring? Her electrical appliances wouldn't work here (except her computer) so we spent nearly $1000 the first two days she was here just to replace all the things she couldn't bring. Hey, blow dryers and irons and etc. etc adds up quick, and you think a bachelor has the stuff a woman needs? Dreamer.

So, you're one of those who think finding a spouse from some other country actually means acquiring a pet who just wantswantswants, needsneedsneeds, asksasksasks and demandsdemandsdemands and, therefore, you need to be making a fortune in order to pay for all those wishes and demands?

What if the person who's actually coming to the States has some, y'know, skills and knowledge and can live with just those clothes or whatever they bring until they're ready to start legally working? Believe it or not, there are so many of us.

I don't expect blow driers and irons to be bought for me when I arrive. We'll see if WE can buy those, or anything else we'll want, once I start contributing to our family budget. Or, you know, I might not even come there with a bag full of my clothes and just 50 cents to my name, in the first place.

But yes, we're all different, I know. Some things just make me sick more than the others.

I totally agree. I'm certainly not arriving empty handed. And anything I can't bring by way of electicals that have different voltage...well, if WE can't replace those at once I am prepared to wait until WE can. I'm fairly sure I can manage to live without a blow dryer.

Hmm.. Well I think I have to disagree. Not on the basis of curling irons etc. But really on the basis of why we have the support requirements in the first place.

I fundamentally I accept Gary's soapbox position.

Hey, there's a reason for the minimums. And there's a reason they're baaed on POVERY guidelines. POVERTY, right? Do you really want to live that close to the edge, and bring someone else to share in that status?

Moreover, if you (not a specific 'you', just those defending living on the minimums) wish to do so, that's your business ... until it affects taxpayers.

The purpose for the support affidavit is to ensure that this new immigrant to the US will not immediately be accepting welfare, Medicaid or other public assistance. There are millions of Americans unfortunately needing these underfunded programs already.

US Immigration law recognizes the right of US Citizens to be reunited with their loved ones. But only insofar as they can support them without public assistance. Why should I as a taxpayer have to subsidize your lifestyle and your choices? If you really can't afford, quite literally, to marry and be with your loved one, well - you wouldn't be the first. In times gone by people would WAIT to marry and start families when they could afford to.

If you can meet the thresholds on your own or find a co-sponsor to shoulder the responsibility jointly, fine. Welcome to America. But if you can't, why should you expect the taxpayer to effectively be your co-sponsor?

We've got enough corporate welfare cases on Wall Street these days. Who needs more?

Gary and uscandual: Please be couteous on this board. This is not a competition about who is more wealthy..... When people ask questions and post comments its because they genuinely need help. Please avoid mocking them. Tax payers do not co sponsor anyone! The government effectively recovers any money spent from the co sponsor. Am sorry about your relationships if all they are about is money, things property and who bought what in the house??? Fiance`s / fiancees from abroad also have a life and professions while in their countries. Try to be respectful there are many of them who are very learned and not beggers using this post/ board.

Edited February 15, 2009 by ntinda

[cdneh 3,112]

I find it interesting how a simple request for information can result in a moralizing lecture. They aren't asking about your 'superior' position are they.

You don't judge, USCIS does. Just give the OP his information. That's all he/she asked for.

[Corinthians 7]

For all the haters (Elghazi2008)...I just said I wonder.

Did I say what I wonder? Looks like you guys are just as judgemental as the guy who lectured the OP that he doesn't make enough.

Do the math. To meet the minimum you basically need to work full time and make $10 an hour. Take out taxes, health insurance, rent and food and that's gonna be brutal. It isn't about being rich, it's about being able to survive. Throw in your first child on top of all those bills "when/if it happens"; then what?

[cdneh 3,112]

For all the haters (Elghazi2008)...I just said I wonder.

Did I say what I wonder? Looks like you guys are just as judgemental as the guy who lectured the OP that he doesn't make enough.

Do the math. To meet the minimum you basically need to work full time and make $10 an hour. Take out taxes, health insurance, rent and food and that's gonna be brutal. It isn't about being rich, it's about being able to survive. Throw in your first child on top of all those bills "when/if it happens"; then what?

He asked about meeting the requirments. Full stop. He didn't bargain on the rest of the lecture...what happens down the track happens. And given the state of the economy...it could happen to anyone, all the worst case scenarios.

[Badgerella 5]

Judgemental? How? Why?

Because I am once more saying that I am no leech and that I am not coming to the US to steal your money? I don't care about it. I'll earn my own. I'm really capable of that much. Seriously. I wasn't born to sit on my ####### and wait for some random American to come and pick me up. I've had a bunch of other things to do for all these years of my life.

I'm really getting sick of this attitude, is all.

I forgot to add - the first child thing.. well, anyone heard of contraception? Y'know, just in case you can't afford one. Or while you can't.

[cthompson 0]

Have you given thought to if you can actually support her? I'm not trying to be mean or anything, just asking a honest question. It is marriage, and financial difficulty does often and unfortunately put a lot of stress on marriages. Granted, I have no idea what your situation is, but you should really ask yourself that. I understand she intends to work when she gets here, but with a worsening economy, it is possible she might not be able to get a job, and you really have to take that into account.

[Corinthians 7]

This is ######. A month and a half ago I made enough ,and now I don't. I just spent like 2 grand to go to see my SO (So that we could get photo's to prove we have been together, letter of intent from her,etc). Now I am going to see her in 18 day's (And I have to explain to her that I am no longer eligable). I can't find a sponser for her. And I do not think I could find a job/survivie in her country. I am very upset. I don't know what to do. $300 is going to keep me from being witht the woman I love.................................any advice?

cdneh

His question was answered and then he wrote this above. That's when the other guy got on his case. Look over the thread before you attack people.

I only said I wonder.

The judgemental comment is for people who make assumptions about wealth or motive of other posters and don't allow people to state opinions different from their own without attacking them.

Have fun flaming eachother tonight.

[cdneh 3,112]

This is ######. A month and a half ago I made enough ,and now I don't. I just spent like 2 grand to go to see my SO (So that we could get photo's to prove we have been together, letter of intent from her,etc). Now I am going to see her in 18 day's (And I have to explain to her that I am no longer eligable). I can't find a sponser for her. And I do not think I could find a job/survivie in her country. I am very upset. I don't know what to do. $300 is going to keep me from being witht the woman I love.................................any advice?

cdneh

His question was answered and then he wrote this above. That's when the other guy got on his case. Look over the thread before you attack people.

I only said I wonder.

The judgemental comment is for people who make assumptions about wealth or motive of other posters and don't allow people to state opinions different from their own without attacking them.

Have fun flaming eachother tonight.

I've not flamed a living soul sunshine. And I haven't attacked YOU either. Thanks for reading so carefully.

[MatthewKMC 0]

Again thank you for all the responces.Does anyone know: How many month's would I have to work for the second employer,before I can submit the paystub's & letter from the employer?

[Corinthians 7]

Again thank you for all the responces.Does anyone know: How many month's would I have to work for the second employer,before I can submit the paystub's & letter from the employer?

I bet if you got the job now you'd be fine. You won't really need paystubs and the letter from your employers until after you get NOA2 which could be several months or longer. By then I would hope the consulate would cut you a break with 6 months of additional income, etc.

[cdneh 3,112]

Again thank you for all the responces.Does anyone know: How many month's would I have to work for the second employer,before I can submit the paystub's & letter from the employer?

If you are just starting now...it will be while before you get to the interview stage, where the support documents are required .

Could you fill in a timeline? It helps when you are asking questions.

[Danno2 0]

Keep it simple and just get a part time job.

[MatthewKMC 0]

I might be mistaken ,but don't I have to send my I-134 in when I first start the K-1 Visa process? And would'nt I have to state my yearly income on the I-134? Like I said , I might be wrong , but I thought when first filing (The K-1 ) that I have ao send in the I-129f + G-325A + the Affidavit of Support . Or don't they ask about the Affidavit of Support until after your I-129f is approved? And how many month's does the I-129f approvel or Denial take to recieve?Basically what I am asking is :During the first steps in the (K-1 process) they don't ask any questions about your finances? Thank's ,Matt

Edited February 16, 2009 by MatthewKMC