Prop 13: Idiocy Comes Home to Roost in California

[DEDixon 39]

Thanks, but I'd rather just not believe you. And, living in the Bay Area doesn't make you an expert, I live there too and I can't remember what exactly were the effects of SF new policy. Seems if you had such a memory, finding the facts would not be so difficult.

And yet I will sleep like a baby tonight.

Just as I will.

[Caladan 19]

You know, no offense to the dear Californians, but every time I read about the various propositions and legislative procedural rules, it seems that your state fails at basic self-governance.

[Caladan 19]

It's the whole system! You can amend your constitution by proposition!! That's basic checks-and-balances epic fail.

[Ban Hammer 14,668]

that's a small vocal minority - they don't speak for all of kansas. i'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from trying to paint everyone in kansas as a nut job, kthxbye.

Yeah well that small vocal minority speaks loudly enough to set your entire educational system back into the stone age.

I find it pretty funny too that you'll sling insults about California left and right, but take offense when I call Kansas out for being the fundamentalist house of horrors that it's become. If you can't take it, don't dish it, kkthxbye.

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

if you'd like, i'll be quite happy to call californians nutcases too to see how you like it

[Ban Hammer 14,668]

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

if you'd like, i'll be quite happy to call californians nutcases too to see how you like it

Please do. I never asked you to stop, and as I said you've been saying things like that anyway. You're the one getting sand in your ####### over it, not me.

um no i haven't been saying everyone in cali is a nutcase. thanks for playing though.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

They have some bearing, but not much.

From a CNN article dated Aug 12 1999:

The Kansas State School Board voted Wednesday to remove the teaching of evolution from the state's science curriculum

From The Guardian, dated February 15 2007:

Creationists defeated in Kansas school vote on science teaching

[Ban Hammer 14,668]

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

They have some bearing, but not much.

From a CNN article dated Aug 12 1999:

The Kansas State School Board voted Wednesday to remove the teaching of evolution from the state's science curriculum

From The Guardian, dated February 15 2007:

Creationists defeated in Kansas school vote on science teaching

like i was saying..........

[Danno 1,228]

MEan while, The Golden State, sinks further into insolvency. (just like the Federal Government)

Jimmy crack corn and I don't care.

[natty bumppo 297]

MEan while, The Golden State, sinks further into insolvency. (just like the Federal Government)

Jimmy crack corn and I don't care.

better work on the first word ...

[DEDixon 39]

Just thinking out loud here..... California spends too much.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Just thinking out loud here..... California spends too much.

Try convincing the Legislature of that

[natty bumppo 297]

Just thinking out loud here..... California spends too much.

Try convincing the Legislature of that

the spotted owl ...condors ... the world is so much better because of these expenditures

[Danno 1,228]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

[HAL 9000 96]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

Yeah, given his pretty firm stance on environmental protection by way of his naming people based in environmental science to lead the EPA and such, as opposed to the firm stance against it in the outgoing administration, we're likely not to see much overstepping of environmental protections in the forthcoming years.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

Yeah, given his pretty firm stance on environmental protection by way of his naming people based in environmental science to lead the EPA and such, as opposed to the firm stance against it in the outgoing administration, we're likely not to see much overstepping of environmental protections in the forthcoming years.

There are projects here which were in the proposal stage in the mid 1980s and are now completing environmental certification

Nothing will get done.. nothing. If that doesn't change.

Edited December 28, 2008 by A.J.