Prop 13: Idiocy Comes Home to Roost in California

[mox 298]

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

if you'd like, i'll be quite happy to call californians nutcases too to see how you like it

Please do. I never asked you to stop, and as I said you've been saying things like that anyway. You're the one getting sand in your ####### over it, not me.

[Ban Hammer 12,837]

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

if you'd like, i'll be quite happy to call californians nutcases too to see how you like it

Please do. I never asked you to stop, and as I said you've been saying things like that anyway. You're the one getting sand in your ####### over it, not me.

um no i haven't been saying everyone in cali is a nutcase. thanks for playing though.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

They have some bearing, but not much.

From a CNN article dated Aug 12 1999:

The Kansas State School Board voted Wednesday to remove the teaching of evolution from the state's science curriculum

From The Guardian, dated February 15 2007:

Creationists defeated in Kansas school vote on science teaching

[Ban Hammer 12,837]

that small minority has little bearing on the schools in kansas

They have some bearing, but not much.

From a CNN article dated Aug 12 1999:

The Kansas State School Board voted Wednesday to remove the teaching of evolution from the state's science curriculum

From The Guardian, dated February 15 2007:

Creationists defeated in Kansas school vote on science teaching

like i was saying..........

[Danno 1,228]

MEan while, The Golden State, sinks further into insolvency. (just like the Federal Government)

Jimmy crack corn and I don't care.

[natty bumppo 289]

MEan while, The Golden State, sinks further into insolvency. (just like the Federal Government)

Jimmy crack corn and I don't care.

better work on the first word ...

[DEDixon 39]

Just thinking out loud here..... California spends too much.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Just thinking out loud here..... California spends too much.

Try convincing the Legislature of that

[natty bumppo 289]

Just thinking out loud here..... California spends too much.

Try convincing the Legislature of that

the spotted owl ...condors ... the world is so much better because of these expenditures

[Danno 1,228]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

[mox 298]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

I don't know enough of the details to comment intelligently about the plan, but as I understand it they're going to target "shovel ready" projects first. These are projects where major progress was made in the planning and initial steps, but was never actually funded for further construction. If I recall, "shovel ready" projects are those that can begin actual construction within 6 months.

I don't know how sound the policy is, I still need to read up on it to decide. But it does seem to be enjoying bipartisan support right now.

[HAL 9000 96]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

Yeah, given his pretty firm stance on environmental protection by way of his naming people based in environmental science to lead the EPA and such, as opposed to the firm stance against it in the outgoing administration, we're likely not to see much overstepping of environmental protections in the forthcoming years.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

Yeah, given his pretty firm stance on environmental protection by way of his naming people based in environmental science to lead the EPA and such, as opposed to the firm stance against it in the outgoing administration, we're likely not to see much overstepping of environmental protections in the forthcoming years.

There are projects here which were in the proposal stage in the mid 1980s and are now completing environmental certification

Nothing will get done.. nothing. If that doesn't change.

Edited December 28, 2008 by A.J.

[HAL 9000 96]

not to get to far afield but with all these mandatory environmental studies, required before any

construction project can begin...... how does Obama plan to get all these infrastructure projects going within a short amount of time?

Even the biding process is lengthly, not to mention the planning and engineering.

Of course for him, we will bypass all these "safeguards" that are deemed so important (not to mention expensive) to others.

Yeah, given his pretty firm stance on environmental protection by way of his naming people based in environmental science to lead the EPA and such, as opposed to the firm stance against it in the outgoing administration, we're likely not to see much overstepping of environmental protections in the forthcoming years.

There are projects here which were in the proposal stage in the mid 1980s and are now completing environmental certification

Nothing will get done.. nothing. If that doesn't change.

EPA proposed? It does sound a little slow. Just a little though.

Seriously- certification involves the creation of data that sometimes isn't there to begin with- hence its long delay. I guess you could blame economics that were inherited ever since that proposal stage since the mid 80s... Projects get fast-tracked or they get shelved, too.