Rest of the World Wants Obama

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Will be interesting to see if the world's opinion changes, regardless of who is voted in.

I hope so, because being in Europe as an exchange student before and after Mr. Cowboy was elected president, I can tell you that there was a drastic change on the perception of the world (at least that of Europe) towards this country.

We have to understand one thing: THE WORLD REALLY HATES US, and I hope the following administration will change this perception because as they say "No man is an island" and we cannot live w/o allies. You may say we have them, yeah right, just wait to see if they stick around. Our stronger ally, the UK, loves to flirt back and forth between the EU and the US, that tells you pretty much what they would be willing to do if it comes to the point to choose between them and us.

Edited September 9, 2008 by GueraYTavo

[metta 0]

not the friends place to decide or tell me what to do ...

Who says they are though?

Actually, I am referring to your statement above.. In international relations, friends turn into enemies and vice versa.

I don't agree with GWB's unilateralism and could well understand the antipathy that exists in the world toward Bush. But that does not mean we have to heed what other are purportedly thinking (according to this poll and the article which is a thinly veiled attempt to sway opinions of American voters) )into our own election dynamics.

As for me, I don't give a diddly squat who they want us to elect as POTUS.

Obviously their vote for POTUS matters not, however, it makes sense to vote for someone who will actually get along with other nations. Learning from history's past, the more people you piss off and attack, the more you heighten your chances of not lasting very long, and find yourself constantly in a tiresome fight unnecessarily. You also put yourself in a position, economically, to be squeezed out.

It isn't much longer now until we share the "superpower" status, so the less we focus on building bridges and making friends, the greater the chances are of other, more hostile or influencing countries of forcing policy changes by coercion. Two nations already do this -- Saudi Arabia and China. Bush's tough talk on China is just that -- talk. And, of course, having a much larger stake in this economy, Saudi Arabia doesn't even get the tough talk, Bush just flat out openly kisses their ### and holds their hands like a dog with it's tail between it's legs for it's master. Quite embarrassing.

The big mistake people make is refusing to actually understand why these countries might be upset, just like if another country is pissing us off, we probably try to get them to understand why. Part of any relationship or partnership or friendship in general is the willingness to take criticism and learn from your mistakes. Evidently some hard-liners want to mix that up with others voting for us, which is an excuse for setting one's self up for a conflict rather than bringing an understanding and mutual listening on both sides. You lead by example, not lead by force.

Your point is well taken.

But this thread is about an article titled: "World wants Obama as president: poll"

The implied message is: to regain friendship of those countries, Americans should vote for Obama. I presume that's what folks are responding to on this thread.

That's not the implied message at all. As the OP, I'd have to say to the extent there's any implied message it is this: a) U.S. standing in the world has been severely damaged by Bush (and I have traveled extensively abroad in the last 8 years to witness it). B) What the rest of the world (especially our allies) think of us matters. A lot. It is not and should not be a determining factor in deciding how to vote, but it is 1 factor ... and, under the circumstances, a pretty important one.

My bad. It was not implied ( I meant the original article not you the OP)but rather inescapably obvious like;""World wants Obama as president: poll"'

[HAL 9000 96]

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the country want. Vote Obama!!

Well yeah, that's the idea.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the country want. Vote Obama!!

I couldn't agree more hahahahaha

OWNED!

Edited September 9, 2008 by GueraYTavo

[IAMX 3,055]

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the country want. Vote Obama!!

I better call family in Georgia to double check their vote on Obama. I think they're voting for John McBush III.

Family in Texas is mixed, but they aren't exactly across the country. Do they count?

Edited September 9, 2008 by SRVT

[Nessa 23]

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the country want. Vote Obama!!

I couldn't agree more hahahahaha

OWNED!

world haha

ok let's try this again *stops working and pay attention to what i type on vj*

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the world want. Vote Obama!!

yay

that's my punishment for writing in a political thread

Edited September 9, 2008 by Nessa

[HAL 9000 96]

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the country want. Vote Obama!!

I couldn't agree more hahahahaha

OWNED!

world haha

ok let's try this again *stops working and pay attention to what i type on vj*

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the world want. Vote Obama!!

yay

that's my punishment for writing in a political thread

I just think the 'rest of the world' is concerned that whenever mad cowboys are voted in over here... they end up having to brunt many of the consequences.

Lucky for SOME... that is not the case thanks in part to that same mad cowboy mentality driving our economy into the ground... relatively making other economies boom. Relatively.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the country want. Vote Obama!!

I couldn't agree more hahahahaha

OWNED!

world haha

ok let's try this again *stops working and pay attention to what i type on vj*

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the world want. Vote Obama!!

yay

that's my punishment for writing in a political thread

That was what your told you to write, don't lie to us you know you want to vote for Obama

[Nessa 23]

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the country want. Vote Obama!!

I couldn't agree more hahahahaha

OWNED!

world haha

ok let's try this again *stops working and pay attention to what i type on vj*

everybody should vote for Obama. American citizens, forget about what we need, do what people accross the world want. Vote Obama!!

yay

that's my punishment for writing in a political thread

That was what your told you to write, don't lie to us you know you want to vote for Obama

even if i could vote i'd probably not.

vote i mean. at all

[panamania79 2]

Will be interesting to see if the world's opinion changes, regardless of who is voted in.

I hope so, because being in Europe as an exchange student before and after Mr. Cowboy was elected president, I can tell you that there was a drastic change on the perception of the world (at least that of Europe) towards this country.

We have to understand one thing: THE WORLD REALLY HATES US, and I hope the following administration will change this perception because as they say "No man is an island" and we cannot live w/o allies. You may say we have them, yeah right, just wait to see if they stick around. Our stronger ally, the UK, loves to flirt back and forth between the EU and the US, that tells you pretty much what they would be willing to do if it comes to the point to choose between them and us.

THANK YOU !

When he came to Panama,every body was writing "fuera Bush" on all the walls around the city.They wrote the letter S as a swastika.

Edited September 9, 2008 by panamania79

[HAL 9000 96]

Will be interesting to see if the world's opinion changes, regardless of who is voted in.

I hope so, because being in Europe as an exchange student before and after Mr. Cowboy was elected president, I can tell you that there was a drastic change on the perception of the world (at least that of Europe) towards this country.

We have to understand one thing: THE WORLD REALLY HATES US, and I hope the following administration will change this perception because as they say "No man is an island" and we cannot live w/o allies. You may say we have them, yeah right, just wait to see if they stick around. Our stronger ally, the UK, loves to flirt back and forth between the EU and the US, that tells you pretty much what they would be willing to do if it comes to the point to choose between them and us.

THANK YOU !

When he came to Panama,every body was writing "fuera Bush" on all the walls around the city.They wrote the letter S as a swastika.

I do remember the irony of McCain in Cartagena, Colombia this summer... talking about Free Trade with people that benefit from a very unequal economical atmosphere... making the rich richer and the poor poorer just doesn't seem to be enough for that campaign at home. Straight Talk indeed.

[Ban Hammer 14,567]

When he came to Panama,every body was writing "fuera Bush" on all the walls around the city.They wrote the letter S as a swastika.

so much to be proud of there!

[akdiver 3]

Maybe we should just ask the U.N. to appoint the next U.S. President.

[natty bumppo 297]

If the rest of the world wants Obama .... let them take him

Edited September 10, 2008 by Natty Bumppo

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Maybe we should just ask the U.N. to appoint the next U.S. President.

Like somebody listens to the U.N. nowadays right? *sneezing Invasion-To-Iraq*

Edited September 10, 2008 by GueraYTavo