'Poli-Migra': New Spanish Word for Police and ICE

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'Poli-Migra': New Spanish Word for Blurred Line Between Police and ICE

La Raza, News Report, Fabiola Pomareda, Posted: Sep 02, 2008

Traducción al español

Editor's Note: A new police tactic has caused alarm among Chicago’s immigrant community. The term “poli-migra” has emerged in the local Spanish lexicon to reflect ongoing police efforts that have blurred the lines between local, state and federal authority. Immigrants from Latin American countries detained by Chicago police officers for minor infractions are increasingly ending up in “immigration hold” status. Fabiola Pomareda reports for Chicago's La Raza newspaper.

CHICAGO -- After spending almost an entire year behind bars, Arturo Trujillo was finally a free man. In June 2007, Trujillo was arrested for battery, having been accused of participating in a brawl with three other men. The charges were eventually dropped at the beginning of May –- Trujillo had acted in self-defense –- but the Mexican immigrant would spend three more weeks in jail, waiting for immigration officials to sign his release pending a separate court date regarding his immigration status.

The same thing happened to Luis León, a Mexican immigrant released on bail last week after being arrested Feb. 14 for driving without a license.

Last May, members of the March 10 Movement, a Chicago immigrant rights group, along with pastor José Landaverde of Our Lady of Guadalupe and Cook County Commissioner Roberto Maldonado, accused officials from the Chicago Police Department (CPD), Sheriff's Office for Cook County and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) of dragging their feet on cases involving both documented and undocumented immigrants. Some were innocent. Others should have been freed on bond. But as the cases piled up, for the defendants, justice was less than swift.

Family members began looking for help. Their offers to post bail were rejected.

Both the city of Chicago and Cook County have sanctuary ordinances on the books that prevent arresting officers from asking detainees their immigration status during routine stops. Officers are also forbidden from reporting suspected illegal immigrants to federal authorities unless the detainees are official suspects in ongoing criminal investigations.

Serving time without a sentence

Landaverde and members of the March 10 Movement have documented 59 cases so far of Hispanic immigrants who have been placed on “immigration hold,” a shadowy status that begs the question: What is happening with their cases?

“If you are arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol, the judge suspends your license, gives you a fine and releases you,” said Jorge Mújica, member of the March 10 Movement. “But in these cases, (someone) is saying to them, ‘You aren’t going anywhere because you’re on immigration hold.’ The problem here is that regardless of the charge being brought against them and regardless of a judge’s order, there is a second procedure that orders their detention due to their illegal status,” Mújica explained.

In June, Cook County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Penny Mateck told La Raza, “The agency that arrests a person, in this (Trujillo) case the Chicago Police Department, is the agency that’s responsible for contacting ICE, which then initiates the immigration status proceedings against the detainee.”

After being cleared of charges or posting bail, a detainee is held until being transferred to the custody of ICE, often resulting in lengthy delays. According to the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, ICE has 48 hours to take custody of a detainee; otherwise the person should be released.

Mateck blamed the delay in releasing Trujillo on a “breakdown in communication” between the sheriff’s office and ICE. “We were using a broader interpretation of the 48-hour rule. But we’ve made changes and now we are using more conservative criteria,” the spokeswoman said.

But according to Cook County Commissioner Maldonado, “The Chicago Police Department is violating its own order that says they can't report anyone to ICE unless that person is involved in a criminal investigation. How are they going to report someone to ICE for a civil violation like driving through a red light?” Maldonado asked.

“The basic problem here lies with whoever it is that starts the ball rolling by reporting an undocumented person to ICE for an infraction that is not criminal,” the commissioner said.

Public hearing gets hot

Since the issue has come to light, officials have been scrambling to reassure residents that past missteps by police have been corrected. On Aug. 5, the Chicago City Council’s Human Relations Committee held a public meeting called by aldermen William Ocasio (D-26) and Daniel Solís (D-25), who have two of the city’s biggest Hispanic constituencies.

CPD patrol captain and first deputy superintendent Beatrice Cuello assured residents, “We don’t notify ICE, except when we are conducting a criminal investigation.”

Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

“We want our immigrant community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge,” she said.

Alderman Solís wants a stronger commitment from police officers, and he is pushing for them to sign a contract stating that they understand the sanctuary ordinance and that there will be consequences for officers who violate it.

“Place of birth”

Nevertheless, CPD Internal Affairs chief Tina Skahill said, “Every officer asks detainees where they were born, because it’s a standard question to identify suspects. When a person was born in another country, that information is included in the police report because a person could be confused with a criminal with the same name, but born in a different place,” Skahill said.

Mújica disagrees. “Asking someone their place of birth only adds confusion. I have two nationalities. I wasn’t born here, but I am a U.S. citizen,” he said.

Maldonado, the county commissioner, also thinks the question is irrelevant. “I’m not a public safety officer, but as a public and private person, I have to wonder why it is important to ask (a person’s birthplace). In my opinion that question should only be asked when there is a criminal investigation,” he said.

“We have to draw the line somewhere,” he added.

Agents prowl courthouse

Responding to the polemic, ICE spokesperson Gail Montenegro sent La Raza a written statement saying that every day of the week three federal agents are assigned to the Cook County Courthouse. Their duties include “reviewing police reports of the previous day’s detentions.”

“We review the files of those subjects who appear before a bail bond judge. ICE reviews all the reports that indicate a detainee was born outside the U.S. to determine those individuals that are subject to deportation. This is done before the bail hearing and independent of their nationality,” Montenegro wrote.

ICE then determines if an immigration hold should be placed on detainees who are criminals, and priority is given to those convicted of serious crimes, those who have been deported previously, or those who have a pending deportation order, the statement explained.

Montenegro also said ICE does not have a policy of racial profiling. Rather, the agency has a Criminal Alien Program that “seeks to ensure that foreign criminals are processed for deportation after completing their sentences rather than be released to the street.”

In response to ICE’s statement, Maldonado complained of a “systematic pattern” followed by the agency that has allowed ICE officials to penetrate Cook County’s criminal justice system by placing agents in court rooms during bail hearings.

Cook County State's Attorney spokesman John Gorman told La Raza that police reports and case files are “public documents available in court rooms to public officials, whether for parole agents, police officers or immigration officials.”

“(ICE agents) are looking at public information that is available to personnel from law enforcement agencies. They’re not looking at our databases or computers,” Gorman said.

Unanswered questions

What happens next is unclear. The city council’s Human Relations Committee will issue a report as soon as they receive results from an internal inquiry from the police department, said Alderman Ocasio’s assistant, Héctor Villagrana. No one is sure when the CPD internal review will be completed.

In the meantime, the sheriff’s office sent a report to Commissioner Maldonado documenting the number of persons placed in immigration hold from April to August this year. Out of 253 cases, 229 are Hispanic, most of them of Mexican descent.

http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_articl...fcd71546f782578

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Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

your tax dollars at work.........

“We want our immigrant illegal community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge,” she said.

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Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

your tax dollars at work.........

“We want our immigrant illegal community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge,” she said.

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My tax dollars are going to go to protect & educate the illegals how to represent themselves AFTER they break the law & how to get out of ICE trouble. Nice indeed!

Maybe I'll go educate myself how to get ICE to round them up, the next time they decide to do an immigration march & show off their illegalness.

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'Poli-Migra': New Spanish Word for Blurred Line Between Police and ICE

La Raza, News Report, Fabiola Pomareda, Posted: Sep 02, 2008

Traducción al español

Editor's Note: A new police tactic has caused alarm among Chicago’s immigrant community. The term “poli-migra” has emerged in the local Spanish lexicon to reflect ongoing police efforts that have blurred the lines between local, state and federal authority. Immigrants from Latin American countries detained by Chicago police officers for minor infractions are increasingly ending up in “immigration hold” status. Fabiola Pomareda reports for Chicago's La Raza newspaper.

CHICAGO -- After spending almost an entire year behind bars, Arturo Trujillo was finally a free man. In June 2007, Trujillo was arrested for battery, having been accused of participating in a brawl with three other men. The charges were eventually dropped at the beginning of May –- Trujillo had acted in self-defense –- but the Mexican immigrant would spend three more weeks in jail, waiting for immigration officials to sign his release pending a separate court date regarding his immigration status.

The same thing happened to Luis León, a Mexican immigrant released on bail last week after being arrested Feb. 14 for driving without a license.

Last May, members of the March 10 Movement, a Chicago immigrant rights group, along with pastor José Landaverde of Our Lady of Guadalupe and Cook County Commissioner Roberto Maldonado, accused officials from the Chicago Police Department (CPD), Sheriff's Office for Cook County and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) of dragging their feet on cases involving both documented and undocumented immigrants. Some were innocent. Others should have been freed on bond. But as the cases piled up, for the defendants, justice was less than swift.

Family members began looking for help. Their offers to post bail were rejected.

Both the city of Chicago and Cook County have sanctuary ordinances on the books that prevent arresting officers from asking detainees their immigration status during routine stops. Officers are also forbidden from reporting suspected illegal immigrants to federal authorities unless the detainees are official suspects in ongoing criminal investigations.

Serving time without a sentence

Landaverde and members of the March 10 Movement have documented 59 cases so far of Hispanic immigrants who have been placed on “immigration hold,” a shadowy status that begs the question: What is happening with their cases?

“If you are arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol, the judge suspends your license, gives you a fine and releases you,” said Jorge Mújica, member of the March 10 Movement. “But in these cases, (someone) is saying to them, ‘You aren’t going anywhere because you’re on immigration hold.’ The problem here is that regardless of the charge being brought against them and regardless of a judge’s order, there is a second procedure that orders their detention due to their illegal status,” Mújica explained.

In June, Cook County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson Penny Mateck told La Raza, “The agency that arrests a person, in this (Trujillo) case the Chicago Police Department, is the agency that’s responsible for contacting ICE, which then initiates the immigration status proceedings against the detainee.”

After being cleared of charges or posting bail, a detainee is held until being transferred to the custody of ICE, often resulting in lengthy delays. According to the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, ICE has 48 hours to take custody of a detainee; otherwise the person should be released.

Mateck blamed the delay in releasing Trujillo on a “breakdown in communication” between the sheriff’s office and ICE. “We were using a broader interpretation of the 48-hour rule. But we’ve made changes and now we are using more conservative criteria,” the spokeswoman said.

But according to Cook County Commissioner Maldonado, “The Chicago Police Department is violating its own order that says they can't report anyone to ICE unless that person is involved in a criminal investigation. How are they going to report someone to ICE for a civil violation like driving through a red light?” Maldonado asked.

“The basic problem here lies with whoever it is that starts the ball rolling by reporting an undocumented person to ICE for an infraction that is not criminal,” the commissioner said.

Public hearing gets hot

Since the issue has come to light, officials have been scrambling to reassure residents that past missteps by police have been corrected. On Aug. 5, the Chicago City Council’s Human Relations Committee held a public meeting called by aldermen William Ocasio (D-26) and Daniel Solís (D-25), who have two of the city’s biggest Hispanic constituencies.

CPD patrol captain and first deputy superintendent Beatrice Cuello assured residents, “We don’t notify ICE, except when we are conducting a criminal investigation.”

Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

“We want our immigrant community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge,” she said.

Alderman Solís wants a stronger commitment from police officers, and he is pushing for them to sign a contract stating that they understand the sanctuary ordinance and that there will be consequences for officers who violate it.

“Place of birth”

Nevertheless, CPD Internal Affairs chief Tina Skahill said, “Every officer asks detainees where they were born, because it’s a standard question to identify suspects. When a person was born in another country, that information is included in the police report because a person could be confused with a criminal with the same name, but born in a different place,” Skahill said.

Mújica disagrees. “Asking someone their place of birth only adds confusion. I have two nationalities. I wasn’t born here, but I am a U.S. citizen,” he said.

Maldonado, the county commissioner, also thinks the question is irrelevant. “I’m not a public safety officer, but as a public and private person, I have to wonder why it is important to ask (a person’s birthplace). In my opinion that question should only be asked when there is a criminal investigation,” he said.

“We have to draw the line somewhere,” he added.

Agents prowl courthouse

Responding to the polemic, ICE spokesperson Gail Montenegro sent La Raza a written statement saying that every day of the week three federal agents are assigned to the Cook County Courthouse. Their duties include “reviewing police reports of the previous day’s detentions.”

“We review the files of those subjects who appear before a bail bond judge. ICE reviews all the reports that indicate a detainee was born outside the U.S. to determine those individuals that are subject to deportation. This is done before the bail hearing and independent of their nationality,” Montenegro wrote.

ICE then determines if an immigration hold should be placed on detainees who are criminals, and priority is given to those convicted of serious crimes, those who have been deported previously, or those who have a pending deportation order, the statement explained.

Montenegro also said ICE does not have a policy of racial profiling. Rather, the agency has a Criminal Alien Program that “seeks to ensure that foreign criminals are processed for deportation after completing their sentences rather than be released to the street.”

In response to ICE’s statement, Maldonado complained of a “systematic pattern” followed by the agency that has allowed ICE officials to penetrate Cook County’s criminal justice system by placing agents in court rooms during bail hearings.

Cook County State's Attorney spokesman John Gorman told La Raza that police reports and case files are “public documents available in court rooms to public officials, whether for parole agents, police officers or immigration officials.”

“(ICE agents) are looking at public information that is available to personnel from law enforcement agencies. They’re not looking at our databases or computers,” Gorman said.

Unanswered questions

What happens next is unclear. The city council’s Human Relations Committee will issue a report as soon as they receive results from an internal inquiry from the police department, said Alderman Ocasio’s assistant, Héctor Villagrana. No one is sure when the CPD internal review will be completed.

In the meantime, the sheriff’s office sent a report to Commissioner Maldonado documenting the number of persons placed in immigration hold from April to August this year. Out of 253 cases, 229 are Hispanic, most of them of Mexican descent.

http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_articl...fcd71546f782578

Providence used to be a "sanctuary city",but now, forgeraboutit. The state police are pulling people over and "green carding" them.

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Providence used to be a "sanctuary city",but now, forgeraboutit. The state police are pulling people over and "green carding" them.

Yes...that is what happens when reality hits. High minded proclamations tend to fall by the wayside as thousands and thousands of illegal aliens hit town and the usual "fun and games" these folks bring with them take hold on the community. Public outrage at large illegal populations soon follow.

While Houston still has plenty of sanctuary policies in place, ICE is now posted at the city and county jails here. The criminal element is no longer protected as it once was by being released back onto the streets to commit more crimes. However, the high cost of their presence to the taxpayer has yet to be addressed. We can only wait and hope.

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Criminal element being protected? Is that the way they do business in Texas? I thought criminals that had enough evidence against them were usually tried in a court of law for their offenses. If not, then exactly what crimes (other than breaking Federal immigration law) are these thousands and thousands of so-called criminals guilty of in your eyes?

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Criminal element being protected? Is that the way they do business in Texas? I thought criminals that had enough evidence against them were usually tried in a court of law for their offenses. If not, then exactly what crimes (other than breaking Federal immigration law) are these thousands and thousands of so-called criminals guilty of in your eyes?

Well lets ponder this scenario. Since every illegal alien is arrestable, detainable, and deportable...just what the heck is your definition of a criminal?

This in addition to identity theft, document fraud, tax evasion, unauthorized work, etc., etc. When a community is based on illegality the rest of the equation tends to take on a life of its own.

Why do you always nit-pick? Isn't breaking federal laws enough for you?

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Criminal element being protected? Is that the way they do business in Texas? I thought criminals that had enough evidence against them were usually tried in a court of law for their offenses. If not, then exactly what crimes (other than breaking Federal immigration law) are these thousands and thousands of so-called criminals guilty of in your eyes?

They are guilty of illegal presence. What part of that don't you understand? Most of them are also guilty of ID theft, not paying taxes and working illegally. Any person here without permission should be handled by the laws of the land. No other crime is needed for this to happen.

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Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

your tax dollars at work.........

“We want our immigrant illegal community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge,” she said.

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My tax dollars are going to go to protect & educate the illegals how to represent themselves AFTER they break the law & how to get out of ICE trouble. Nice indeed!

Maybe I'll go educate myself how to get ICE to round them up, the next time they decide to do an immigration march & show off their illegalness.

And guess what ? You'll run into the Catholic Church and a whole slew of advocacy groups that will be willing to sue you .

I know,I've seen it happen.

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Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

your tax dollars at work.........

“We want our immigrant illegal community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge,” she said.

fixxored

My tax dollars are going to go to protect & educate the illegals how to represent themselves AFTER they break the law & how to get out of ICE trouble. Nice indeed!

Maybe I'll go educate myself how to get ICE to round them up, the next time they decide to do an immigration march & show off their illegalness.

And guess what ? You'll run into the Catholic Church and a whole slew of advocacy groups that will be willing to sue you .

I know,I've seen it happen.

i don't know about you, but that bugs me - how a non-profit organization like the catholic church gets involved in aiding and abetting illegal activity.

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Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

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Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

your tax dollars at work.........

“We want our immigrant illegal community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge,” she said.

fixxored

My tax dollars are going to go to protect & educate the illegals how to represent themselves AFTER they break the law & how to get out of ICE trouble. Nice indeed!

Maybe I'll go educate myself how to get ICE to round them up, the next time they decide to do an immigration march & show off their illegalness.

And guess what ? You'll run into the Catholic Church and a whole slew of advocacy groups that will be willing to sue you .

I know,I've seen it happen.

i don't know about you, but that bugs me - how a non-profit organization like the catholic church gets involved in aiding and abetting illegal activity.

maybe it's time to review the tax exempt status of the catholic church ...

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Criminal element being protected? Is that the way they do business in Texas? I thought criminals that had enough evidence against them were usually tried in a court of law for their offenses. If not, then exactly what crimes (other than breaking Federal immigration law) are these thousands and thousands of so-called criminals guilty of in your eyes?

Well lets ponder this scenario. Since every illegal alien is arrestable, detainable, and deportable...just what the heck is your definition of a criminal?

This in addition to identity theft, document fraud, tax evasion, unauthorized work, etc., etc. When a community is based on illegality the rest of the equation tends to take on a life of its own.

Why do you always nit-pick? Isn't breaking federal laws enough for you?

Simple enough- crimes that are worthy of arrest are usually done so out of evidence with very clear sentencing guidelines. And as others have noted regarding the makeup of prison populations in the US, many of these criminal offenses require serving jail time after a duly noted conviction.

That isn't nitpicking, its called being realistic and sequential.

Breaking federal immigration law is one of a potential list of offenses. Usually those are subject to immediate deportation instead of detention. So why all the confusion in mixing criminals of all sorts with illegal aliens. I suspect why, but I don't want to have to accuse you once again of 'lopping' people into whatever category suits your fancy.

Criminal element being protected? Is that the way they do business in Texas? I thought criminals that had enough evidence against them were usually tried in a court of law for their offenses. If not, then exactly what crimes (other than breaking Federal immigration law) are these thousands and thousands of so-called criminals guilty of in your eyes?

They are guilty of illegal presence. What part of that don't you understand? Most of them are also guilty of ID theft, not paying taxes and working illegally. Any person here without permission should be handled by the laws of the land. No other crime is needed for this to happen.

See previous post.

Cuello also said police recently began working with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago to produce a video that will inform undocumented immigrants of their rights if stopped by police. Police brochures will also be translated to Spanish.

your tax dollars at work.........

"We want our immigrant illegal community to know that we are here to serve them and that Chicago is a safe refuge," she said.

fixxored

My tax dollars are going to go to protect & educate the illegals how to represent themselves AFTER they break the law & how to get out of ICE trouble. Nice indeed!

Maybe I'll go educate myself how to get ICE to round them up, the next time they decide to do an immigration march & show off their illegalness.

And guess what ? You'll run into the Catholic Church and a whole slew of advocacy groups that will be willing to sue you .

I know,I've seen it happen.

True. For cases of obvious abuse of power. You don't see advocacy groups and the Church around the corner of every ICE raid do you?

Besides... there's the whole issue of categorizing illegals, once again, into a broader category based on advocacy. Which includes people that are quite legal.

Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

Edited September 4, 2008 by maviwaro

[peejay 327]

Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

[Ban Hammer 14,297]

Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

now there is an oxymoron!