evidences of relationship

[skegma 0]

i've read here that pictures are secondary proofs, i was wondering what are the primary proofs?????

please give me the list of evidences by importance order, my fiance and I are gathering evidences so we can apply for my k-1 visa on august and we want it to be perfect

[tenderheartusa79 14]

Good morning

there are so many evidences to Proof of Having Met in Person like

phone bills, cell phone bills, emails , letters

airline boarding passes, train passes, itineraries, hotel receipts, passport stamps

Color Photo's of you and your fiance together

check this proof of having met in person

Good luck and my best wishes for you we will file for the visa next month

Edited June 16, 2008 by tenderheart197900

[skegma 0]

Good morning

there are so many evidences to Proof of Having Met in Person like

phone bills, cell phone bills, emails , letters

airline boarding passes, train passes, itineraries, hotel receipts, passport stamps

Color Photo's of you and your fiance together

check this proof of having met in person

Good luck and my best wishes for you we will file for the visa next month

thanks for your reply and good luck for you, hope it will be an easy process

[Pappu1980 0]

I don't think that USCIS ever differentiated between primary and secondary proofs. You can search Guides sections for "evidences of relationship" or use Wiki page for latest updated info.

Link to Wiki page is http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/...es_of_Marriage:

[웃 910]

Nothing is more evident than pictures but also include hotel and airplane documentation.

[KimandRuss 0]

With your petition the uscis is looking for proof of having met in the last 2 years. Copies of passport stamps, boarding passes, itinerary..things that show you in the same place at the same time.

While photos, emails, chat, phone records..etc... may help to support that requirement as well, they can be easily doctored and are more proof of ongoing relationship which comes later at interview stage.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Nothing is more evident than pictures but also include hotel and airplane documentation.

Pictures are secondary. The BEST evidence besides what was already mentioned is those handwritten letters / cards showing the postmark on the envelopes.

[*JG* 2]

Nothing is more evident than pictures but also include hotel and airplane documentation.

Pictures are secondary. The BEST evidence besides what was already mentioned is those handwritten letters / cards showing the postmark on the envelopes.

We didn't use any of that.

I agree with passport stamps, plane tickets, receipts, and pictures.

[Gator's Bike 0]

i've read here that pictures are secondary proofs, i was wondering what are the primary proofs?????

please give me the list of evidences by importance order, my fiance and I are gathering evidences so we can apply for my k-1 visa on august and we want it to be perfect

1. cards and letters - to certify of you ongoing relationship

2. emails/Chat Logs

3. Phone Calls / Text Messages

4. Money Transfer or Joint Bank Account

5. Hotel Receipts when actual acquintance happen

6. Passport with Immigration Stamp - to certify when he/she actually visisted u and how many times

[pushbrk 12,105]

Nothing is more evident than pictures but also include hotel and airplane documentation.

Pictures are secondary. The BEST evidence besides what was already mentioned is those handwritten letters / cards showing the postmark on the envelopes.

Wow, several of us are just full of misinformation this morning. It's very common to confuse evidence of meeting in person with evidence of bona fide ongoing relationship.

There are two elements of the "meeting" requirment. One is that you were in the same place and the other that it was within the past two years. Primary evidence is boarding passes and passport stamps indicating on party travelled to country of the other's residence or that both traveled to a given location at the same time. Such evidence proves both time and place. Other primary evidence could include hotel receipts paid for with a credit card or ATM withdrawal records.

A picture could actually be primary evidence if it is of the "proof of life" variety or otherwise staged to provide actual evidence of both primary elements of time and place. Examples would be holding a local newspaper with date visible or a common choice in China is to stand in front of a money exchange board in the Bank of China, showing the date and have somebody snap a picture. Otherwise, even dated pictures are secondary because the dates can be doctored and they prove only place, not time.

Emails, cards and letters give evidence of primary evident, so are not evidence of meeting.

See last post in this thread.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...rimary+evidence

Submit evidence of meeting the meneficiary in person within the two-year period preceding the filing of the petiition. The primary evidence may include airline ticket stubs and receipts (that indicate month, day, and year), copies of passport pages that show the identification page and admission stamps, military order(s), letter from Commanding Officer, or any evidence that will help the USCIS to determine that the petitioner has met the beneficiary within the two years. The secondary evidence may be film dated photographs of the petitioner and the beneficiary together. The following DOES NOT constitue evidence of meeting: disc, videos, emails, letters, phone bills, and greeting cards."

As I recall, the source is the actual instructions in an RFE asking for primary evidence of meeting.

Edited June 16, 2008 by pushbrk

[pushbrk 12,105]

i've read here that pictures are secondary proofs, i was wondering what are the primary proofs?????

please give me the list of evidences by importance order, my fiance and I are gathering evidences so we can apply for my k-1 visa on august and we want it to be perfect

1. cards and letters - to certify of you ongoing relationship

2. emails/Chat Logs

3. Phone Calls / Text Messages

4. Money Transfer or Joint Bank Account

5. Hotel Receipts when actual acquintance happen

6. Passport with Immigration Stamp - to certify when he/she actually visisted u and how many times

Only 5 and 6 are evidence of meeting. 1-4 are evidence of bona fide ongoing relationship. Don't confuse the two. I know the thread title is "evidence of relationship" but this is the filing stage for a K1, so evidence of meeting in the past two years is the requirement, not evidence of a relationship.

Edited June 16, 2008 by pushbrk

[DanielParul 50]

With your petition the uscis is looking for proof of having met in the last 2 years. Copies of passport stamps, boarding passes, itinerary..things that show you in the same place at the same time.

While photos, emails, chat, phone records..etc... may help to support that requirement as well, they can be easily doctored and are more proof of ongoing relationship which comes later at interview stage.

Exactly