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If he has had a vasectomy he can have that right. Otherwise, if you have sex and don't protect yourself you have to live with whatever consequences arise which includes 'unwanted' children.

"You" the man? Or "you" both people? It takes two, you know.

Protection takes two? What do you mean by that? If the girl doesn't consent to your using a condom, don't have sex or have a vasectomy so that this doesn't ever come up as an issue. It's not rocket science to not concieve a child.

"I'm on the pill, don't worry about it"

If you truly do not want to be financially responsible for a child then no, that should never cut it.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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But if a child is conceived, then both parties are responsible, yes?

Yes, both parties need to be responsible. But one should not decide for other.

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Nov 15 2004 : NOA 2 in mail

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But if a child is conceived, then both parties are responsible, yes?

Yes, both parties need to be responsible. But one should not decide for other.

But that is the unfairness of biology coming into play. Nature dicates that after conception only the woman can make the final decision about the fate of the pregnancy.

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But if a child is conceived, then both parties are responsible, yes?

Yes, both parties need to be responsible. But one should not decide for other.

But that is the unfairness of biology coming into play. Nature dicates that after conception only the woman can make the final decision about the fate of the pregnancy.

Nature doesn't dictate that. The Supreme Court does.

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The conception to a man who doesn't want to be financially responsible to a child should never happen. If you are so concerned about it, then take steps to avoid it HAVE A VASECTAMY. Post conception "I don't want the responsibility" is too bad, so sad.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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But if a child is conceived, then both parties are responsible, yes?

Yes, both parties need to be responsible. But one should not decide for other.

But that is the unfairness of biology coming into play. Nature dicates that after conception only the woman can make the final decision about the fate of the pregnancy.

Nature doesn't dictate that. The Supreme Court does.

Not as long as their are coathangers, stairs, and punches in the gut. Beyond that, we could always take a trip back in time when either killing or selling your unwanted born children into slavery was a commonly accepted form of abortion. There are some test runs on eBay already...

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how did we get here? :huh:

hmmmm...i do not know....started out funny and ended up...well, Brother MA

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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my burro, bosco ..enjoying a beer in almaty

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What bothers me is the fact that even if the man wants the child, but the woman wants to get an abortion, he has no say. That's not right.

February 17, 2005--mailed in I 129F to CSC!

February 24, 2005--1st NOA

March 15, 2005--2nd NOA

April 11, 2005--Fiance receives Packet 3

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June 6, 2005-- Interview Date!!!!Visa approved!!

June 18, 2005--Fiancee arrives in Hawaii!

August 14, 2005--wedding in Oregon

September 12, 2005--sent in AOS

September 20, 2005--1st NOA AOS

September 23, 2005--Walk-in biometrics completed

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November 26, 2005--EAD card received in mail

June 7, 2006--contact senators about AOS

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August 14, 2006--AOS interview and 1 year wedding anniversary

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What bothers me is the fact that even if the man wants the child, but the woman wants to get an abortion, he has no say. That's not right.

You are right, it is not fair, but biology just isn't fair. It isn't fair that a woman is forced to either terminate the pregnancy or birth the child and the man doesn't have to bear any physical burden or consequences of either of those decisions, but that is life. That is biology.

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If ever a thread needed a picture of ducks, it's this one.

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Ooh, cute kitty too. :luv:

This too :) Same ducks I guess :)

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Removal of Conditions :

August 16, 2010 - Petition received by USCIS Vermont Center

August 20, 2010 - NOA1 received

October 4, 2010 - Biometrics

January 3, 2011 - Permanent 10 yr. Green Card Received.

 

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