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My husband also spoke to someone from Vermont and that person told him that I-130 gets approved faster if you filed I-129F along with it.

Looking at the approvals timeline for CR1/IR1 and K3, i guess it's the opposite, it's faster if you don't file I-129 along with I-130. And lately(for Auguest filers and up), VSC is canceling all I-129 for K3 visa.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: England
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Hey! VSC must be doing something as I got touched on my I-130 again today. But to my big surprise I also got touched on my I-129f today too. Now I'm not even gonna begin to try and work out what this means in relation to days/months/years away from approval but at least someone looked at them today. Maybe they heard my ranting last night?!

Still hanging in there - just! :bonk:

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I noticed that you are the part of the group that got I-129F touches at about the same time in April and you got approved.This might mean more I-129F approvals for others!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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Based on some information received from these posts, I started getting nervous about the VSC not handling K3 cases any longer. I sent a message to my attorney concerning this. I got the following response:

"We have had some I129F petitions that were administratively closed. It basically means that we have to process it as a CR-1 visa if that happens. We need to wait to get your approval notice before we can determine which way the case will proceed. I will let you know the details as we progress. Thanks."

Not good news. I was then informed by my attorney that a CR-1 will take approx. 4 months longer, but I wouldn't have to file AOS and would be $500 cheaper (I guess this would be saving the AOS Perm. residence fee.)

So apparently all of the posts about K3 petitions at VSC have some merit. Not real sure why VSC just closed up shop on K3 petitions.

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand

Marriage : 2006-11-08

I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10

I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14

I-129F touched: 2008-05-06

I-130 touched: 2008-05-09

I-129F approved 2008-09-05

I-130 approved 2008-09-05

NVC received 2008-09-12

Pay I-864 2008-10-08

Pay IV bill 2008-10-08

Receive Instruction 2008-11-05

Case Complete 2008-11-18

Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed

Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30

Interview 221g 2009-02-23

Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved

POE DFW 2009-03-07

Received SS card 2009-03-17

Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

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Based on some information received from these posts, I started getting nervous about the VSC not handling K3 cases any longer. I sent a message to my attorney concerning this. I got the following response:

"We have had some I129F petitions that were administratively closed. It basically means that we have to process it as a CR-1 visa if that happens. We need to wait to get your approval notice before we can determine which way the case will proceed. I will let you know the details as we progress. Thanks."

Not good news. I was then informed by my attorney that a CR-1 will take approx. 4 months longer, but I wouldn't have to file AOS and would be $500 cheaper (I guess this would be saving the AOS Perm. residence fee.)

So apparently all of the posts about K3 petitions at VSC have some merit. Not real sure why VSC just closed up shop on K3 petitions.

Sference, others on this forum had been hearing the same thing lately, which had us all on edge.

But today we saw an approval of I-129F for K-3 at Vermont!!

So let's wait and see, but maybe in the next weeks we might start seeing some of those petitions approved again?

It's an interesting development, to say the least though!

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Russia
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Based on some information received from these posts, I started getting nervous about the VSC not handling K3 cases any longer. I sent a message to my attorney concerning this. I got the following response:

"We have had some I129F petitions that were administratively closed. It basically means that we have to process it as a CR-1 visa if that happens. We need to wait to get your approval notice before we can determine which way the case will proceed. I will let you know the details as we progress. Thanks."

Not good news. I was then informed by my attorney that a CR-1 will take approx. 4 months longer, but I wouldn't have to file AOS and would be $500 cheaper (I guess this would be saving the AOS Perm. residence fee.)

So apparently all of the posts about K3 petitions at VSC have some merit. Not real sure why VSC just closed up shop on K3 petitions.

Sference, others on this forum had been hearing the same thing lately, which had us all on edge.

But today we saw an approval of I-129F for K-3 at Vermont!!

So let's wait and see, but maybe in the next weeks we might start seeing some of those petitions approved again?

It's an interesting development, to say the least though!

What I'm not clear on is why is a CR1 going to take 4 months longer.

It seems that before it used to take a while because of all the mail back and forth that was required. What's the process now? I see CR1 timelines that say "Yesterday I paid this bill. Today they generated something else, etc"...so what is it at NVC that takes a long time to do? With electronic billpay what's a reasonable timeline for NVC now?

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Based on some information received from these posts, I started getting nervous about the VSC not handling K3 cases any longer. I sent a message to my attorney concerning this. I got the following response:

"We have had some I129F petitions that were administratively closed. It basically means that we have to process it as a CR-1 visa if that happens. We need to wait to get your approval notice before we can determine which way the case will proceed. I will let you know the details as we progress. Thanks."

Not good news. I was then informed by my attorney that a CR-1 will take approx. 4 months longer, but I wouldn't have to file AOS and would be $500 cheaper (I guess this would be saving the AOS Perm. residence fee.)

So apparently all of the posts about K3 petitions at VSC have some merit. Not real sure why VSC just closed up shop on K3 petitions.

Sference, others on this forum had been hearing the same thing lately, which had us all on edge.

But today we saw an approval of I-129F for K-3 at Vermont!!

So let's wait and see, but maybe in the next weeks we might start seeing some of those petitions approved again?

It's an interesting development, to say the least though!

What I'm not clear on is why is a CR1 going to take 4 months longer.

It seems that before it used to take a while because of all the mail back and forth that was required. What's the process now? I see CR1 timelines that say "Yesterday I paid this bill. Today they generated something else, etc"...so what is it at NVC that takes a long time to do? With electronic billpay what's a reasonable timeline for NVC now?

I just spoke with someone at Vermont, and she acted like I was from Mars. She was very polite and helpful. She said that she didn't know anything about converting K3 to CR-1 at Vermont, which really confuses me now, since my lawyer sent me the email referenced above. Anyway, I'm going to take the lady at VSC's word for it, until they tell me something different.

As far as the CR-1 taking longer, I'm not an expert, but the way I read it, is that the K3 was invented because the CR1 (immigrant visa) takes so long. Thinking being, that you can enter the US on K3, and then file AOS to permanent residence.... but that's my 2 cents... take it for what it's worth.

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand

Marriage : 2006-11-08

I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10

I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14

I-129F touched: 2008-05-06

I-130 touched: 2008-05-09

I-129F approved 2008-09-05

I-130 approved 2008-09-05

NVC received 2008-09-12

Pay I-864 2008-10-08

Pay IV bill 2008-10-08

Receive Instruction 2008-11-05

Case Complete 2008-11-18

Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed

Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30

Interview 221g 2009-02-23

Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved

POE DFW 2009-03-07

Received SS card 2009-03-17

Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

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The only part of the K3 that was faster was the NVC stage, that is where you would save those 2 months, but now with the online system up there is not a big difference. Before July both the I-129f and the I-130 would be approved at about the same time, you can ask your lawyer about it and I am sure he will tell you the same thing, I didnt use a lawyer for mine but i called a ton of them before i filed to get a good idea of what is what. If you are ready for the NVC part of things you could expect to be done with NVC in about a month. The only thing that stops me from being ready is my wifes police reports, in Brazil they are only good for 3 months and take 1 month to get. Since I am on month 6 of waiting I cant really say that I will be done with USCIS in the next 4 months. So I lose a month even when my petition is approved because I cant ask her to get her police reports now to have them ready because i fear that USCIS VSC is not making any progress. Ive pretty much given up on America though, my wife is getting ready to open her own Pharmacy and I agreed that it was a good idea so if she gets everything in order I will be moving there within the next 4 months or so.

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Based on some information received from these posts, I started getting nervous about the VSC not handling K3 cases any longer. I sent a message to my attorney concerning this. I got the following response:

"We have had some I129F petitions that were administratively closed. It basically means that we have to process it as a CR-1 visa if that happens. We need to wait to get your approval notice before we can determine which way the case will proceed. I will let you know the details as we progress. Thanks."

Not good news. I was then informed by my attorney that a CR-1 will take approx. 4 months longer, but I wouldn't have to file AOS and would be $500 cheaper (I guess this would be saving the AOS Perm. residence fee.)

So apparently all of the posts about K3 petitions at VSC have some merit. Not real sure why VSC just closed up shop on K3 petitions.

Sference, others on this forum had been hearing the same thing lately, which had us all on edge.

But today we saw an approval of I-129F for K-3 at Vermont!!

So let's wait and see, but maybe in the next weeks we might start seeing some of those petitions approved again?

It's an interesting development, to say the least though!

What I'm not clear on is why is a CR1 going to take 4 months longer.

It seems that before it used to take a while because of all the mail back and forth that was required. What's the process now? I see CR1 timelines that say "Yesterday I paid this bill. Today they generated something else, etc"...so what is it at NVC that takes a long time to do? With electronic billpay what's a reasonable timeline for NVC now?

I just spoke with someone at Vermont, and she acted like I was from Mars. She was very polite and helpful. She said that she didn't know anything about converting K3 to CR-1 at Vermont, which really confuses me now, since my lawyer sent me the email referenced above. Anyway, I'm going to take the lady at VSC's word for it, until they tell me something different.

As far as the CR-1 taking longer, I'm not an expert, but the way I read it, is that the K3 was invented because the CR1 (immigrant visa) takes so long. Thinking being, that you can enter the US on K3, and then file AOS to permanent residence.... but that's my 2 cents... take it for what it's worth.

The way I understand it this was the case in the past, CR-1 was taking a while. My analysis of the timeframes for CR1 goes kind of like this:

2 months or so to get out of USCIS and get to NVC.

4-5 months to get through NVC.

But didn't NVC just introduce electronic billpay and doc printing? I see timelines in the CR1 thread and you can see that at the beginning of this year people took something like 4 months to go NOA2->NVC Case Complete. Now it's down to 40-50 days...

I'm trying to prepare for all eventualities. And most certainly, IF we were to get both NOA2s on the same day like they do now, I'd go NVC route (embassy in Moscow is running pretty high volume on interviews so they are usually 2 months out) just in case we can do the ol' "switch to CR1 at the last minute" trick.

And if we don't get the 129F NOA2 then we're stuck with just CR1...I still want to know how long it'll take.

We got married in December of 2007. I'd hate to tell my wife that the family vacation to Hawaii that we're right now planning for this Xmas will be ...postponed due to buerocratic BS that happens in this country.

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The only part of the K3 that was faster was the NVC stage, that is where you would save those 2 months, but now with the online system up there is not a big difference. Before July both the I-129f and the I-130 would be approved at about the same time, you can ask your lawyer about it and I am sure he will tell you the same thing, I didnt use a lawyer for mine but i called a ton of them before i filed to get a good idea of what is what. If you are ready for the NVC part of things you could expect to be done with NVC in about a month. The only thing that stops me from being ready is my wifes police reports, in Brazil they are only good for 3 months and take 1 month to get. Since I am on month 6 of waiting I cant really say that I will be done with USCIS in the next 4 months. So I lose a month even when my petition is approved because I cant ask her to get her police reports now to have them ready because i fear that USCIS VSC is not making any progress. Ive pretty much given up on America though, my wife is getting ready to open her own Pharmacy and I agreed that it was a good idea so if she gets everything in order I will be moving there within the next 4 months or so.

Quoted for truth...

I'm Russian living in the states, my wife is Russian but she wants to come here right now, hence why we're going through this nightmare. If I get anymore BS from the government or economy tanks even further so that I get laid off I'm gonna seriously consider selling off what I got (or renting out the house) and moving back. I'm one of those lucky people who don't live in McMansion, don't have 3 mortgages and whose house actually went UP in value instead of down.

Regarding your police cert...my answer to your situation is:

- order police cert right now.

- Get it a month later.

- If, 2 months from now you don't have a NOA2 yet, you order another one a month before it expires.

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The only part of the K3 that was faster was the NVC stage, that is where you would save those 2 months, but now with the online system up there is not a big difference. Before July both the I-129f and the I-130 would be approved at about the same time, you can ask your lawyer about it and I am sure he will tell you the same thing, I didnt use a lawyer for mine but i called a ton of them before i filed to get a good idea of what is what. If you are ready for the NVC part of things you could expect to be done with NVC in about a month. The only thing that stops me from being ready is my wifes police reports, in Brazil they are only good for 3 months and take 1 month to get. Since I am on month 6 of waiting I cant really say that I will be done with USCIS in the next 4 months. So I lose a month even when my petition is approved because I cant ask her to get her police reports now to have them ready because i fear that USCIS VSC is not making any progress. Ive pretty much given up on America though, my wife is getting ready to open her own Pharmacy and I agreed that it was a good idea so if she gets everything in order I will be moving there within the next 4 months or so.

Quoted for truth...

I'm Russian living in the states, my wife is Russian but she wants to come here right now, hence why we're going through this nightmare. If I get anymore BS from the government or economy tanks even further so that I get laid off I'm gonna seriously consider selling off what I got (or renting out the house) and moving back. I'm one of those lucky people who don't live in McMansion, don't have 3 mortgages and whose house actually went UP in value instead of down.

Regarding your police cert...my answer to your situation is:

- order police cert right now.

- Get it a month later.

- If, 2 months from now you don't have a NOA2 yet, you order another one a month before it expires.

Only problem with that is she has to ask for them in person, Strange thing about Brazil, you cant just order them like we can. It is a 700 dollar plane ride and then the hotel, and then 1 month later she has to fly back to pick them up :crying: I wish it was so easy, I get frustrated with her government because they make things so difficult sometimes.

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Just a thought. If the I-130 is approved before the I-129F, does that make it a CR-1?

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand

Marriage : 2006-11-08

I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10

I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14

I-129F touched: 2008-05-06

I-130 touched: 2008-05-09

I-129F approved 2008-09-05

I-130 approved 2008-09-05

NVC received 2008-09-12

Pay I-864 2008-10-08

Pay IV bill 2008-10-08

Receive Instruction 2008-11-05

Case Complete 2008-11-18

Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed

Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30

Interview 221g 2009-02-23

Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved

POE DFW 2009-03-07

Received SS card 2009-03-17

Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Russia
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Folks, don't call VSC phone support. Save yourself the time on the phone.

"We're processing I129F from November 17, 2007 so it will be 3 more months until we get to you, that's the fastest" Ok...I've mailed my I130 in Jan of this year. "Oh, I-130s are still on July 2007".

In a way, I sort of understand WHY they're saying what they're saying. That's unfortunately how ANY large business operates, if you ever had to call tech support. Those folks can't just go and make up stories or do the "wink wink, fill out this form", they have to follow the "party line" so that everything operates consistently otherwise there's no accountability. Of course, unlike any large business, USCIS is not a business but unaccountable governmental monopoly so they get away with anything they want.

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Gotta love that answer! :star: But yeah thats USCIS, however their is still reason to call and keep on bugging, clearly there are inconsistencies with the IO's answers, lets see how many we can find, document and everyone write detailed letters to congressmen, ombudsman, w.e. it takes to get this point across. One thing is for sure.. NOT doing anything ISNT going to help the situation at ALL.

Folks, don't call VSC phone support. Save yourself the time on the phone.

"We're processing I129F from November 17, 2007 so it will be 3 more months until we get to you, that's the fastest" Ok...I've mailed my I130 in Jan of this year. "Oh, I-130s are still on July 2007".

In a way, I sort of understand WHY they're saying what they're saying. That's unfortunately how ANY large business operates, if you ever had to call tech support. Those folks can't just go and make up stories or do the "wink wink, fill out this form", they have to follow the "party line" so that everything operates consistently otherwise there's no accountability. Of course, unlike any large business, USCIS is not a business but unaccountable governmental monopoly so they get away with anything they want.

CR1

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-02-19

Touched : 2008-09-26

Touched : 2008-09-27(they work on saturdays?)

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-29

222 DAYS

CR2 (Our)daughter

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-06-27

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-26

89 DAYS

K3

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA2: 2008-09-29

173 DAYS

~~~NVC~~~

10-01-2008 NVC Case Recieved/Numbers Assigned

10-02-2008 NVC IIN Numbers Acquired after 14 tries. (take the "call after 10p" tup) it WORKS

10-04-2008 Paid AOS $70 AND sent DS-3032 by email (.pdf) and by MAIL

10-08-2008 AOS SHOWED AS PAID - AOS Docs Sent out

10-08-2008 IV FEE GENERATED then PAID

10-08-2008 SDQ CONSULATE GRANTS EXPEDITE REQUEST AND REQUESTS CASE

10-27-2008 SDQ INFORMS MY WIFE, TO PICK UP "OPEN INTERVIEW" PAPERS

10-28-2008 INTERVIEW PAPERS AND MEDICAL INST. RECIEVED

10-29-2008 MEDICAL DONE

11-04-2008 MEDICAL RESULTS RECIEVED

11-05-2008 INTERVIEW (APPROVED)

#-#-#### VISA/PASSPORT(S) RECEIVED

#-#-#### POE

TOTAL DAYS FORM PETITION TO INTERVIEW-260 DAYS or 8 months, 17 days

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Just a thought. If the I-130 is approved before the I-129F, does that make it a CR-1?

It's kind of moot because the petitions are generally approved together, but yes, an I-130 petition getting through NVC to the Consulate abroad would result in an immigrant visa CR1 or IR1 whether approved first or second.

An I-129F for a spouse can only result in a K3 visa whether approved first or second.

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