Study: Fox Is the Most Fair and Balanced Thus Far in Prez Campaign

[GaryC 7]

I don't watch any of them anymore. I got fed up pretty quickly when I first moved here when all I got was fluff and no real news. Too many talking heads, "experts", and incessant reporting on non-news items (I find it disgusting that Britney freaking train wreck Spears gets more air time and attention -- I swear, put the world's paparazzi on finding Bin Laden to get a recent pic, and they'd find him in a week!).

I don't hate Fox News, Gary, I just find it amusing that they (and supporters such as yourself) constantly have to trumpet how fair and unbiased they are, it's almost like "if I say it often enough, I'll eventually believe it".

(And if you slap a "liberal" label on me for that comment, I'll be severely ticked off)

You got me all wrong Cassie. I don't trumpet how fair and unbiased they are. They do indeed lean right and that is why some here don't like it. I just want them to admit that the rest leans left (which they most assuredly do). They just present a side that the others are not. It doesn't make them any more right or wrong but it does tend to show a side that gets little play on the air. They are a foil to the ones that lean left and IMHO do a better job of presenting the whole picture.

A quarter of the posts up to this point have already made the point that all the freaking news networks are biased one way or another! What more do you want?

I just want it stated that I haven't said Fox is unbiased. I have always stated that they lean right. My only gripe is that there are those that degrade Fox for that while at the same time give a pass to the others that lean left. It's as if they don't want an opposing view and the ridicule is an attempt to stop anyone having a serious discussion of a story posted from Fox. I point out the post I made about Obama and his church. I posted a story from Fox about it and all I got was "Faux New, nothing else needs said". The next day the very same story was posted from ABC and it got discussed in a serious manner. Don't you see my point?

[Ban Hammer 14,636]

Maybe Karl Marx's works need to be discovered in Ted Turner's library for that to label him a Commie #######. Even though that in itself doesn't make him a liberal, does it?

marriage to hanoi jane did that.

[HAL 9000 96]

Ahh... I see Gary... we're collectively sorry for putting Fox down so much.

[Niels Bohr 72]

LOL

Well, all news are biased. Bashing one news station or another makes no difference for me.

[HAL 9000 96]

Maybe Karl Marx's works need to be discovered in Ted Turner's library for that to label him a Commie #######. Even though that in itself doesn't make him a liberal, does it?

marriage to hanoi jane did that.

To which I think she publicly expressed regret, no?

I thought it was those exercise routines that got him interested...

Or is this Hamptonite also a closet Commie?

[Cassie 8]

I just want it stated that I haven't said Fox is unbiased. I have always stated that they lean right. My only gripe is that there are those that degrade Fox for that while at the same time give a pass to the others that lean left. It's as if they don't want an opposing view and the ridicule is an attempt to stop anyone having a serious discussion of a story posted from Fox. I point out the post I made about Obama and his church. I posted a story from Fox about it and all I got was "Faux New, nothing else needs said". The next day the very same story was posted from ABC and it got discussed in a serious manner. Don't you see my point?

Yes, I see your point. But you must also realize some Fox supporters (I'm thinking the OP here) do the exact same thing in reverse, all the time.

Edited March 17, 2008 by Cassie

[Ban Hammer 14,636]

Maybe Karl Marx's works need to be discovered in Ted Turner's library for that to label him a Commie #######. Even though that in itself doesn't make him a liberal, does it?

marriage to hanoi jane did that.

To which I think she publicly expressed regret, no?

I thought it was those exercise routines that got him interested...

Or is this Hamptonite also a closet Commie?

i don't give a fark if she expressed regret in public or in private. she's a traitor.

[GaryC 7]

Ahh... I see Gary... we're collectively sorry for putting Fox down so much.

Yet again you (deliberately ) miss the point.

[HAL 9000 96]

Maybe Karl Marx's works need to be discovered in Ted Turner's library for that to label him a Commie #######. Even though that in itself doesn't make him a liberal, does it?

marriage to hanoi jane did that.

To which I think she publicly expressed regret, no?

I thought it was those exercise routines that got him interested...

Or is this Hamptonite also a closet Commie?

i don't give a fark if she expressed regret in public or in private. she's a traitor.

Then go do something about it, Patriot.

Ahh... I see Gary... we're collectively sorry for putting Fox down so much.

Yet again you (deliberately ) miss the point.

We're still sorry. I'll continue watching all channels like I currently and deliberately do...

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I'll stick with PBS, thanks.

And I'll second that one.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well every media outlet is subject to criticism - that's part of their oversight process.

One thing I will say about NPR is that they cover stories that get no exposure on any of the corporate networks.

On "quality" this is quite interesting. A survey from 2003 found that people's beliefs people's beliefs in certain misperceptions of the Iraq war varied quite significantly according to their primary source of news.

Misperceptions, the Media and the Iraq War

Guess what it says about the corporate networks...

And then there is this angle on that subject.

Five Years of Slant Against Iraq War Success

Five years ago this week, an international coalition of troops led by the U.S. invaded Iraq, overthrowing Saddam Hussein's tyrannical dictatorship in just three weeks. Since then, Iraqis have voted in free democratic elections to seat a representative parliament; Saddam and several of his henchmen have been tried and convicted in public war crimes trials; and a bloody insurgency fomented by al Qaeda in Iraq is in retreat after a surge of U.S. troops and a shift to more aggressive counter-insurgency tactics.

Analysts at the Media Research Center have studied TV news coverage of the Iraq war from the beginning, even before the first bombs fell on Baghdad in March 2003. The record shows the networks have trumpeted bad news — setbacks for the U.S. coalition and allegations of misdeeds by American troops — while minimizing good news such as the success of the 2007 troop surge and acts of heroism by U.S. soldiers.

■ Pre-War Opponents. Contrary to prevailing liberal mythology, all three networks (especially ABC) tilted their pre-war news in favor of Bush administration opponents. Covering the congressional debate over using force, for example, the networks gave a majority of soundbites (59%) to the losing anti-war side. Reporters also sanitized the "peace" movement, masking the radical affiliations of left-wing organizers while showcasing more sympathetic "middle class" demonstrators.

■ Combat Coverage. Soon after coalition troops liberated Iraq, MRC reviewers awarded decent grades to most of the TV networks, praising the fine, factual reports presented by the embedded journalists who rode along with U.S. troops. But poor marks went to TV reporters stationed in Baghdad, who often passed along the enemy's unverified propaganda. Worst of all was MSNBC's Peter Arnett, who reported lies about U.S. use of "cluster bombs" against Iraqi civilians. Arnett was later fired for denouncing the U.S. in a Saddam propaganda video.

■ Hyping Misdeeds, Hiding Heroes. In less than two weeks during the spring of 2004, NBC alone pumped out 58 stories on the Abu Ghraib prison abuse story, but in the preceding year devoted only five stories to the discovery of mass graves of Saddam's victims. In 2006, the networks jumped on unproved charges of a Marine "massacre" at Haditha, with more than 200 minutes of coverage in three weeks. During the preceding five years, those networks gave just 52 minutes to the stories of America's highest-decorated soldiers in the war on terror.

■ Mostly Bad News. In 2005, Iraq was a mixed bag — historic democratic elections, but continued violence. But an MRC study showed the network coverage emphasized the bad news. Out of 1,712 evening news stories, the lion's share (848, or 61%) focused on U.S. casualties, bombings, kidnappings or political setbacks, compared to just 245 (14%) that reported positive developments. (The remainder were mixed or neutral.) An MRC study of cable news coverage in 2006 found that all three networks emphasized bad news, although the Fox News Channel aired nearly as many stories about coalition success in Iraq (81) as CNN (41) and MSNBC (47) combined.

■ Little Time for Good News. The last six months have seen a massive reduction in insurgent attacks and U.S. casualties. But the three broadcast evening newscasts have shown little interest in the good news, with coverage dropping every month since September. (See chart.)

A 2005 survey of top journalists conducted by the Pew Research Center found the media were far more anti-war than the general public. The networks' performance over last five years makes that painfully obvious. - Rich Noyes

http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/...fax20080317.asp

That may be true - but that's not really the same. Regardless of bias - people who cited corporate network news as their primary source of information were significantly more likely to express belief in things that had no basis in fact.

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[almaty 19]

i avoid Fox and cnn and usually watch local news.. i read the internet differnet news outlets for the world news...

[Ban Hammer 14,636]

Maybe Karl Marx's works need to be discovered in Ted Turner's library for that to label him a Commie #######. Even though that in itself doesn't make him a liberal, does it?

marriage to hanoi jane did that.

To which I think she publicly expressed regret, no?

I thought it was those exercise routines that got him interested...

Or is this Hamptonite also a closet Commie?

i don't give a fark if she expressed regret in public or in private. she's a traitor.

Then go do something about it, Patriot.

like what? and since she does not bother you, obviously you must be unpatriot

[Cassie 8]

i read the internet differnet news outlets for the world news...

Me too.

[HAL 9000 96]

Maybe Karl Marx's works need to be discovered in Ted Turner's library for that to label him a Commie #######. Even though that in itself doesn't make him a liberal, does it?

marriage to hanoi jane did that.

To which I think she publicly expressed regret, no?

I thought it was those exercise routines that got him interested...

Or is this Hamptonite also a closet Commie?

i don't give a fark if she expressed regret in public or in private. she's a traitor.

Then go do something about it, Patriot.

like what? and since she does not bother you, obviously you must be unpatriot

LOL... I dunno... I read somewhere that some 'vet' came up to her and spit in her face. That is such a heroic thing to do, defend us all from evil Commies. Never mind that again... she took the entire thing back.

As far as my patriotism is concerned... I prefer to honor the principles and not the fanatism that has skewed the meaning of freedom in this country towards the benefit of those that maintain the current state of things. "Dissent dare not show itself here or else... kind of reasoning." Sickening.

Edited March 17, 2008 by maviwaro