Honeywell laying off 420 in Phoenix, moving jobs to S. Asia

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Andrew Johnson

The Arizona Republic

Honeywell Aerospace said Wednesday that it is eliminating 420 manufacturing jobs at its north Phoenix facility and plans to move the jobs to Indonesia and Malaysia starting in the third quarter.

The process could take 18 to 24 months to complete, spokesman Bill Reavis said.

Honeywell Aerospace, a unit of global manufacturer Honeywell International Inc., is one of the Valley's biggest employers.

About 12,600 people are on the payroll in various divisions throughout Arizona, Reavis said.

Honeywell Aerospace currently employs about 2,500 workers at the north Phoenix site.

"It's a decision to remain globally competitive in the markets that we serve," Reavis said.

"The company has to continue evaluating its operations and business practices in all locations in order to best serve (its) customers."

The company will provide severance packages and outplacement help to affected workers who are eligible, he said.

They will also be able to apply for open positions in the company.

"It was a very tough decision for the company to make," he said. "We understand that it's going to impact a number of our employees. We're working with them to make sure that transition is going to be as smooth as possible."

Reavis would not say how much money the cuts would save the company or what the average salary range was for the affected workers.

The announcement comes a month after Honeywell Process Solutions, which makes factory-automation systems, said it planned to eliminate 240 jobs from its Phoenix facility.

Those cuts target 180 manufacturing positions and 60 engineering positions.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles...eywell0228.html

[simple_male 1]

Andrew Johnson

The Arizona Republic

Honeywell Aerospace said Wednesday that it is eliminating 420 manufacturing jobs at its north Phoenix facility and plans to move the jobs to Indonesia and Malaysia starting in the third quarter.

The process could take 18 to 24 months to complete, spokesman Bill Reavis said.

Honeywell Aerospace, a unit of global manufacturer Honeywell International Inc., is one of the Valley's biggest employers.

About 12,600 people are on the payroll in various divisions throughout Arizona, Reavis said.

Honeywell Aerospace currently employs about 2,500 workers at the north Phoenix site.

"It's a decision to remain globally competitive in the markets that we serve," Reavis said.

"The company has to continue evaluating its operations and business practices in all locations in order to best serve (its) customers."

The company will provide severance packages and outplacement help to affected workers who are eligible, he said.

They will also be able to apply for open positions in the company.

"It was a very tough decision for the company to make," he said. "We understand that it's going to impact a number of our employees. We're working with them to make sure that transition is going to be as smooth as possible."

Reavis would not say how much money the cuts would save the company or what the average salary range was for the affected workers.

The announcement comes a month after Honeywell Process Solutions, which makes factory-automation systems, said it planned to eliminate 240 jobs from its Phoenix facility.

Those cuts target 180 manufacturing positions and 60 engineering positions.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles...eywell0228.html

Not good.

[mawilson 2,133]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

[trailmix 77]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

If you don't like their policies, don't buy their products - easy.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

[mawilson 2,133]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

If and when we have policies in place to make that possible, I agree.

[JVKn'CVO 11]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

If and when we have policies in place to make that possible, I agree.

Mind if I pick your brains a little? I'm curious to hear more views on this issue.

1) Setting fines against outsourcing, wouldn't that be protectionism? which contrasts with free trade. How do you feel about that?

2) Which is more important for you, as an american, now a days? to defend free trade, or keep the jobs in America?

Saludos,

Caro

Edited February 28, 2008 by JVKn'CVO

[one...two...tree 2,762]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

If and when we have policies in place to make that possible, I agree.

Mind if I pick your brains a little? I'm curious to hear more views on this issue.

1) Setting fines against outsourcing, wouldn't that be protectionism? which contrasts with free trade. How do you feel about that?

2) Which is more important for you, as an american, now a days? to defend free trade, or keep the jobs in America?

Saludos,

Caro

The trade policies would have to be structured in such way that companies aren't going on foreign soil searching for the cheapest labor, or to avoid environmental and labor laws. I don't I'm qualified to give any ideas as to how we can compete in a global economy while still making our labor competitive, but we need standards across the board. Perhaps have limits and caps on how many companies can move overseas - make them apply and prove that they needed to move overseas in order to remain competitive. What is the benefit of U.S. Company remaining a U.S. Company when for all intents and purposes, it exists on foreign soil?

[Dan J 277]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

If and when we have policies in place to make that possible, I agree.

Mind if I pick your brains a little? I'm curious to hear more views on this issue.

1) Setting fines against outsourcing, wouldn't that be protectionism? which contrasts with free trade. How do you feel about that?

2) Which is more important for you, as an american, now a days? to defend free trade, or keep the jobs in America?

Saludos,

Caro

Its very complicated.

Free trade benefits the economy overall, but specifically, shareholders and owners of companies who take advantage of it. Most people in the US are disadvantaged by free trade, specifically if they are working in an industry that can easily be outsourced.

Blocking outsourcing is protectionism. But it is possible to find a middle ground.

At this point, we are heavily invested into free trade. Its also the part of the economy that is primary generating growth. Changing that dramatically would cause quite a few problems.

I think what we could do in the Honeywell situation is simply tax companies who move jobs to other countries and use that money to retrain those people who are disadvantaged by the change.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I think they are projecting an Obama win.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

If and when we have policies in place to make that possible, I agree.

Mind if I pick your brains a little? I'm curious to hear more views on this issue.

1) Setting fines against outsourcing, wouldn't that be protectionism? which contrasts with free trade. How do you feel about that?

2) Which is more important for you, as an american, now a days? to defend free trade, or keep the jobs in America?

Saludos,

Caro

Its very complicated.

Free trade benefits the economy overall, but specifically, shareholders and owners of companies who take advantage of it. Most people in the US are disadvantaged by free trade, specifically if they are working in an industry that can easily be outsourced.

Blocking outsourcing is protectionism. But it is possible to find a middle ground.

At this point, we are heavily invested into free trade. Its also the part of the economy that is primary generating growth. Changing that dramatically would cause quite a few problems.

I think what we could do in the Honeywell situation is simply tax companies who move jobs to other countries and use that money to retrain those people who are disadvantaged by the change.

You said it much better than I could. Thanks, brother.

[natty bumppo 297]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

If and when we have policies in place to make that possible, I agree.

Mind if I pick your brains a little? I'm curious to hear more views on this issue.

1) Setting fines against outsourcing, wouldn't that be protectionism? which contrasts with free trade. How do you feel about that?

2) Which is more important for you, as an american, now a days? to defend free trade, or keep the jobs in America?

Saludos,

Caro

Its very complicated.

Free trade benefits the economy overall, but specifically, shareholders and owners of companies who take advantage of it. Most people in the US are disadvantaged by free trade, specifically if they are working in an industry that can easily be outsourced.

Blocking outsourcing is protectionism. But it is possible to find a middle ground.

At this point, we are heavily invested into free trade. Its also the part of the economy that is primary generating growth. Changing that dramatically would cause quite a few problems.

I think what we could do in the Honeywell situation is simply tax companies who move jobs to other countries and use that money to retrain those people who are disadvantaged by the change.

You said it much better than I could. Thanks, brother.

Aww Steven ... what happened to the free market ... to the world market posts ?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

There's the "free market" you love so much, Steven.

You can't close the barn door now...all you can do is restructure our trade policies to better protect American jobs.

Precisely.

Fine the ####### out of Honeywell Aerospace for doing what they did.

If and when we have policies in place to make that possible, I agree.

Mind if I pick your brains a little? I'm curious to hear more views on this issue.

1) Setting fines against outsourcing, wouldn't that be protectionism? which contrasts with free trade. How do you feel about that?

2) Which is more important for you, as an american, now a days? to defend free trade, or keep the jobs in America?

Saludos,

Caro

Its very complicated.

Free trade benefits the economy overall, but specifically, shareholders and owners of companies who take advantage of it. Most people in the US are disadvantaged by free trade, specifically if they are working in an industry that can easily be outsourced.

Blocking outsourcing is protectionism. But it is possible to find a middle ground.

At this point, we are heavily invested into free trade. Its also the part of the economy that is primary generating growth. Changing that dramatically would cause quite a few problems.

I think what we could do in the Honeywell situation is simply tax companies who move jobs to other countries and use that money to retrain those people who are disadvantaged by the change.

You said it much better than I could. Thanks, brother.

Aww Steven ... what happened to the free market ... to the world market posts ?

Geeeeez! Steve and FREE Markets?

[William33 110]

I think what we could do in the Honeywell situation is simply tax companies who move jobs to other countries and use that money to retrain those people who are disadvantaged by the change.

What about the expatriate opportunities created overseas for Americans? In this example, the principles on the ground in Malaysia and Indonesia will be expatriates. Income opportunities that are free of US taxation up to $80k. As an American, that is the type of job I have had and continue to seek. Americans don't always lose in scenarios like this.