My wife left me!

[Minya's wife 25]

She didn't go anywhere. She is just having fun with my account. Suckers! For believing such a thing.

I think that was a really good one that your wife got over on you with her post!

The first thing that entered my mind when I read her post was that I remember getting some great advice from you in the past; and it was unfortunate that it happened. Then I read your post and laughed.

The first thing that entered my mind when I read of others getting pissed at you is that there must be a lot of folks here that are not too confident in their own relationship. Know what I mean....?

Great to have you back!

That's a nince little lala leap you took there, wasn't it? How the he!! did you come to that brilliant conclusion? Yesterday night, people browsing VJ, saw a thread titled "My wife left me!" followed by:

" Unfortunately she left me...

I do not know what to say... I will not write here again... "

So naturally, as is the nature of VJ-ers, people posted various sympathetic an commiserating words to the OP, only to be told, a short while later that

She didn't go anywhere. She is just having fun with my account. Suckers! For believing such a thing!

That's a proverbial 'slap in the face' if I ever saw one. To make matters worse...on comes the errant wife and arrogantly states, rather callously:

...You know, almost anything on the Internet should be taken with a grain of salt.

I apologize that my husband call you suckers. I was really shocked by this myself!

My husband said that since he is "the smartest guy in the room", whenever he passes the BAR exam, he is going to stop going to this forum because he will have better things to do. He was gonna lie to you guys and say that I got my citizenship and left. He was gonna put this as the reason of him leaving the forum...

In effect poopooing on well-intentioned VJ-ers even further. So not only are we suckers but we're 'stupid', take the internet too seriously, and are just a silly pastime for until(if is more appropriate a word, methinks) the Mr. passes the BAR exam.

This whole thread is just insulting, IMO and I agree w/ those that are upset at being made fools of. What I cannot understand, is how one can equate peoples' anger at being made to look like a fool for offering sympathy to someone who's marriage is over, to insecurity/lack of confidence in their relationship?

-P

[panamania79 2]

Unfortunately she left me...

I do not know what to say... I will not write here again...

That is so sad,I'm sorry to hear that.

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

Unfortunately she left me...

I do not know what to say... I will not write here again...

That is so sad,I'm sorry to hear that.

Keep reading....we are idiots, apparently

[Marlita 1]

Good Lord! There's alotta drama over here.

[Satellite 1]

We are all a tight knit group here and support each other through a very trying time.

It is a self created "trying" time. Plus all we have done and will do is follow the law and procedure as it was written. Nothing trying in that. At the law firm I worked we did hundreds of visas like this, and there was nothing "trying" about it.

They put their trust in this respected forum. I don't think they would appreciate feeling the answers received should be treated as highly skeptical.

All my "suggestions" and "advice" about the VJ process has been highly accurate and I would find it hard to believe that any of it would suddenly become "skeptical". The only thing people should be skeptical about is other people's personal lives, because who would really reveal that to a group of online strangers?

We reached out to you, Mr. & Mrs. Satellite. We rushed in to offer aid and comfort.

I am confused here. You don't know who I am, where I live, where I am from. I am just an anonymous poster. I find it difficult how anyone on here can offer "aid" and "comfort" to anyone else on here. Those are the kinds of things that can only be done in person in my opinion and not through type written words by anonymous people across the internet.

Doing this to their friends on this board.

Friends? Friends are people that you invite in your home, go for a drink with, etc. Not random people you met on an internet board. Acquaintances, at best.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Ever heard of trying as in emotional?

We are all a tight knit group here and support each other through a very trying time.

It is a self created "trying" time. Plus all we have done and will do is follow the law and procedure as it was written. Nothing trying in that. At the law firm I worked we did hundreds of visas like this, and there was nothing "trying" about it.

This comment was made after your spouse stated, anything on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt.

They put their trust in this respected forum. I don't think they would appreciate feeling the answers received should be treated as highly skeptical.

All my "suggestions" and "advice" about the VJ process has been highly accurate and I would find it hard to believe that any of it would suddenly become "skeptical". The only thing people should be skeptical about is other people's personal lives, because who would really reveal that to a group of online strangers?

Okay, I think you've made your point we are pretty much worthless. Since we don't really know you.

We reached out to you, Mr. & Mrs. Satellite. We rushed in to offer aid and comfort.[

I am confused here. You don't know who I am, where I live, where I am from. I am just an anonymous poster. I find it difficult how anyone on here can offer "aid" and "comfort" to anyone else on here. Those are the kinds of things that can only be done in person in my opinion and not through type written words by anonymous people across the internet.

I'll let someone I consider a friend answer for himself, even though I guess I should consider him just a random acquaintance. Since we've never formally met.

Doing this to their friends on this board.

Friends? Friends are people that you invite in your home, go for a drink with, etc. Not random people you met on an internet board. Acquaintances, at best.

I feel sorry for you Satellite, but for other reasons now.

[workin4somethin 0]

We are all a tight knit group here and support each other through a very trying time.

It is a self created "trying" time. Plus all we have done and will do is follow the law and procedure as it was written. Nothing trying in that. At the law firm I worked we did hundreds of visas like this, and there was nothing "trying" about it.

They put their trust in this respected forum. I don't think they would appreciate feeling the answers received should be treated as highly skeptical.

All my "suggestions" and "advice" about the VJ process has been highly accurate and I would find it hard to believe that any of it would suddenly become "skeptical". The only thing people should be skeptical about is other people's personal lives, because who would really reveal that to a group of online strangers?

We reached out to you, Mr. & Mrs. Satellite. We rushed in to offer aid and comfort.

I am confused here. You don't know who I am, where I live, where I am from. I am just an anonymous poster. I find it difficult how anyone on here can offer "aid" and "comfort" to anyone else on here. Those are the kinds of things that can only be done in person in my opinion and not through type written words by anonymous people across the internet.

Doing this to their friends on this board.

Friends? Friends are people that you invite in your home, go for a drink with, etc. Not random people you met on an internet board. Acquaintances, at best.

I am reminded of what I read in another topic, where Slim wrote:

"Well that pretty much clears up everything.

What an efficient bunch here in the Russia Forum! Thanks, guys!"

[visaveteran1 33]

We are all a tight knit group here and support each other through a very trying time.

It is a self created "trying" time. Plus all we have done and will do is follow the law and procedure as it was written. Nothing trying in that. At the law firm I worked we did hundreds of visas like this, and there was nothing "trying" about it.

They put their trust in this respected forum. I don't think they would appreciate feeling the answers received should be treated as highly skeptical.

All my "suggestions" and "advice" about the VJ process has been highly accurate and I would find it hard to believe that any of it would suddenly become "skeptical". The only thing people should be skeptical about is other

Doing this to their friends on this board.

Friends? Friends are people that you invite in your home, go for a drink with, etc. Not random people you met on an internet board. Acquaintances, at best.

people's personal lives, because who would really reveal that to a group of online strangers?

We reached out to you, Mr. & Mrs. Satellite. We rushed in to offer aid and comfort.I am confused here. You don't know who I am, where I live, where I am from. I am just an anonymous poster. I find it difficult how anyone on here can offer "aid" and "comfort" to anyone else on here. Those are the kinds of things that can only be done in person in my opinion and not through type written words by anonymous people across the internet.

I don't get what drives the cold and unfriendly attitude you inflict on fellow members...but it's probably some need to draw negative attention to yourself...which you do quite well. And we are certainly feeding your needs with our reactions to you and your wife's forum gamesmanship (if, indeed, your wife is truly involved in this milieu as you indicate). I do have a suggestion for you...if you don't like or want friendly or "personal" posts...how about you (and your wife) knocking off the bogus "family drama" posts...posts only true friends would tolerate or care about. If we have to continue to suffer you, how about sticking to "just the facts" like a good little lawyer.

[Bobalouie 0]

We are all a tight knit group here and support each other through a very trying time.

It is a self created "trying" time. Plus all we have done and will do is follow the law and procedure as it was written. Nothing trying in that. At the law firm I worked we did hundreds of visas like this, and there was nothing "trying" about it.

They put their trust in this respected forum. I don't think they would appreciate feeling the answers received should be treated as highly skeptical.

All my "suggestions" and "advice" about the VJ process has been highly accurate and I would find it hard to believe that any of it would suddenly become "skeptical". The only thing people should be skeptical about is other people's personal lives, because who would really reveal that to a group of online strangers?

We reached out to you, Mr. & Mrs. Satellite. We rushed in to offer aid and comfort.

I am confused here. You don't know who I am, where I live, where I am from. I am just an anonymous poster. I find it difficult how anyone on here can offer "aid" and "comfort" to anyone else on here. Those are the kinds of things that can only be done in person in my opinion and not through type written words by anonymous people across the internet.

Doing this to their friends on this board.

Friends? Friends are people that you invite in your home, go for a drink with, etc. Not random people you met on an internet board. Acquaintances, at best.

Nothing like an arrogant lawyer wannabe to try to argue his way out of something but instead digs himself in deeper. An apology would have been simple and the right thing to do. Instead, nothing but arrogance flows forth.

Im with Mox and Kazan, despite your self proclaimed accuracy of information, which I do not dispute, everyone is better off without you. Listen to your wife, stay off the boards, right now, she seems like the "smartest person in the room" that you are currently in. You should follow her advice.

[eekee 182]

I just don't understand--why did you bother even posting here in the first place?

We are all a tight knit group here and support each other through a very trying time.

It is a self created "trying" time. Plus all we have done and will do is follow the law and procedure as it was written. Nothing trying in that. At the law firm I worked we did hundreds of visas like this, and there was nothing "trying" about it.

They put their trust in this respected forum. I don't think they would appreciate feeling the answers received should be treated as highly skeptical.

All my "suggestions" and "advice" about the VJ process has been highly accurate and I would find it hard to believe that any of it would suddenly become "skeptical". The only thing people should be skeptical about is other people's personal lives, because who would really reveal that to a group of online strangers?

We reached out to you, Mr. & Mrs. Satellite. We rushed in to offer aid and comfort.

I am confused here. You don't know who I am, where I live, where I am from. I am just an anonymous poster. I find it difficult how anyone on here can offer "aid" and "comfort" to anyone else on here. Those are the kinds of things that can only be done in person in my opinion and not through type written words by anonymous people across the internet.

Doing this to their friends on this board.

Friends? Friends are people that you invite in your home, go for a drink with, etc. Not random people you met on an internet board. Acquaintances, at best.

[SqdnGuns 21]

This guy and his wife are 'tards..............

Sounds like an arrogant ba$tard.........

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Very AKDiverish...what's with the Russia forum? At least you came back to say it was a joke though!

Why does it have to be a "Russia Forum" thing Jenn?? Did you come here only to say such a thing? can happen in any forum, but because it was here something is wrong with Russians??? Please watch your step. Wouldn't want you to trip.

sensitive much? I've seen this type of trick played twice. Both happened here in the Russia forum. No need to read anymore into it than that!

I see. Well, I appologize. I was simply defending the Russian forum. In the polls forum, people seemed to be anti-Russian so I took it a bit personal. But no harm done. Forgive me?

On the other hand, this thread has exploded! And it seems to me that this was a bad idea from the beginning and I think Satellite needs to simply appologize. I agree with most of the other posters, but everyone is making good points. Is there any way out of this? What was it Rodney King said...

[Jason-Sasha 1]

So sorry!!

Now there's someone who didn't read the thread before posting...

Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Wow.

You know, you can tell a lot about a person by the way they treat the waiter at a restaurant. Likewise, I think you can learn a lot about a person by the way they treat "anonymous posters" and "acquaintances."

You seem like a smart person, Sat. Maybe one day you'll learn how to have a little class. In the meantime I really do hope you'll take your wife's advice and move on to someplace more worthy of your considerable intellect.

*Slides in like Kramer*

.....Someone call a waiter??? Does this mean that I must be really ignorant and uneducated? I think not. In fact, half of the waiters I work with are graduates of William & Mary's law school, here in Williamsburg. But guess what? They're waiting tables. Sure its a personal choice, but there must be a reason right? Well, in this area like many others, lawyers are too plentiful. A dime a dozen. I know many many people who have passed the BAR and I must say that not many of them seem superior in the brains department. Maybe its just me. What does a waiter know?

Sorry for all the late posting. Just catching up on all the action. Was working all day.

[slim 1,533]

Haha Exactly, Slim!! I am surprised you didn't write a book in reply to my post like last time! )

There was no need because by the time I read this topic it was already revealed what was going on. (That and I remembered last time there was a "huge, emotionally-moving" thread started by Satellite. (Or Mrs. Satellite to be more precise!)

Very AKDiverish...what's with the Russia forum? At least you came back to say it was a joke though!

See, this is where exprience comes in. AKDiver played the prank-to-end-all-pranks here on VJ about two years ago. He was crucified by some, adored by others, but either way, it was an amazing course of events.

I'm sure your explanation is going to make everyone feel a whole lot better. In my opinion, posting this and then considering people 'suckers' for believing it is not very smart at all.

Maybe not very smart, but very Russian in a "so what?" kind of way.

that is IF he passes the exam.... I have to honestly say that I had no idea who this guy was so he doesn't really need to make a major exit IMO. Just don't log on and post anymore - its simple. I doubt anyone will really miss him so its a win win for everyone.

Satellite will pass the bar. No question about that.

And if you don't know who he is, then you don't know jack about the Russia forum. I know he doesn't post outside the Russia forum very often, but for using his limited time inside the forum to provide very beneficial answers to those in need, saying that losing him wouldn't be a loss is a waste of keystrokes. Thanks for sharing your opinion about someone you know nothing about. Now go vote for President. There are plenty of people running whom you know nothing about, I'm sure you can pass judgement on at least one of them.

As for the later implication, I guess all of us low life non-attorneys that never took a bar exam need to get a life since we don't have better things to do. Jeez! There are a quite a few professionals on this forum that don't mind giving their time, wisdom and knowledge to support and assist a fellow VJer along the way.

We reached out to you, Mr. & Mrs. Satellite. We rushed in to offer aid and comfort. All we got for our efforts was a cold deceitful slap on the face.

See my end comments.

...to post something apropos to the possible pitfalls of the VJ...AND then come back to call those who offered comfort and sympathy SUCKERS,...it just reeks of arrogance and hauteur!

Have you ever met any Russians? They reek of arrogance and hauteur! Sure they can be nice and friendly and caring, but lash out against one and see if you're met with anything but arrogance. And try to get one to show some humility! HA!!!

Years and years and generation after generation of getting $#!T on has hardened the ex-Soviet persona to the point that unfortunate things (even in jest) are viewed, and taken with.... a grain of salt.

She didn't go anywhere. She is just having fun with my account. Suckers! For believing such a thing.

I think that was a really good one that your wife got over on you with her post!

The first thing that entered my mind when I read her post was that I remember getting some great advice from you in the past; and it was unfortunate that it happened. Then I read your post and laughed.

The first thing that entered my mind when I read of others getting pissed at you is that there must be a lot of folks here that are not too confident in their own relationship. Know what I mean....?

Great to have you back!

I don't know if I've been "hardened" to all the unfortunate stories posted on here, but it's important to remember that even though there are real people behind the screen names and avatars, YOU DON'T KNOW THEM!!! Sure we form an emotional bond to everyone we interact with, even virtually, but when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, VJ is just a website full of people spending time on the internet.

In your "real life" who cares what anyone thinks or says on here? Use what's beneficial for you and discard the rest. It's nice to get support and knowledge from others, but it's still only "virtual" support and knowledge. Keep that in mind.

That said, I know it's difficult to detatch the lifeline that is VJ while you're going through the process. There really is no support or understanding for what you're going through. None of your "real friends" out there in the away-from-VJ world know what's going on. Your parents, your family, no one understands. It's great to come over to VJ and be understood and amongst people who "get it." But, just because someone does something like this, and takes you through the emotional wringer, doesn't mean they're not a good and beneficial poster. Everyone is on here for their own reasons and if he chooses to bow out after passing the bar, more power to him. He's done more than his fair share.

Anyone that says less of him should step into his shoes and provide 100% accurate information with supporting links and instructions on how to complete the task. Oh, and they should also be fluent in Russian. And have a Soviet homeland that they fled from to seek asylum in the U.S. when they were a child. And then, they should be able to connect Israel with Russia and the FSU and the family history and knowledge that entails. Basically, you don't have to like the guy (or his wife) but a more valuable poster in the Russia forum I can't think of. And when you break it all down, did you come to VJ to get your loved one a visa or did you come to VJ to make internet buddies?

I don't think it's fair to accuse those who felt a mixture of shock and sympathy on reading the original post of having problems in their own relationship. This is not 'Off topic' where the jokes and humour are usually found, this is the Russian forum where a pretty tight knit supportive group of people hang out and seek advice and support. It is natural therefore that there would be some upset to find that this thread is just a game between the OP and his wife and seemingly at other people's expense.

It's easy to see, if you actually read the thread, that the OP and his wife have very little respect for anyone on these boards. And that disrespect probably extends to you too.

I wouldn't say it's disrespect, it's more of an indifference. If you understood the complex nature of Mr. and Mrs. Satellite's relationship (and all relationships within the Russia forum) then you would more easily understand how they could post something like this and say it's not a big deal. Because in reality.... it's not a big deal. So you had shock and sympathy on reading this post. OK. Reply to it as you see fit. If you're angry or upset at being taken, then stick to visa information and leave the emotional garbage out of it. If you're on here to deal with emotional garbage, then you can't balk at getting wrapped up in an emotional thread.

Those of you without your fiance(e)s, wives/husbands, etc. here already, I can understand why you're upset and how easy it is to get caught up with all the posts here on VJ. How you do get emotionally involved in this forum and how you genuinely do care for those that post here. When we read stuff like this thread, our hearts do go out to those people.

But.... wait until you're married to a Russian for a while. All that will change. Although I'm not saying you're going to stop caring for people and not hurt for them when you read something like this, all that Russian indifference is going to rub off on you and you're going to "get it" when someone posts stuff like this. I'm not going to waste too many keystrokes trying to explain it becuase it's not something that can really be explained. It's something that trully must be experienced.

And, before I knew the truth behind this thread (I entered late so my response changed somewhat) my original reply was going to be:

Satellite, sorry to hear about that. You're still a very valuable asset here and I'm going to hate to see you go. But, that's life and I get it. There are more important thigs to do now.

I know you guys have had a rough go. Working and going to school (and just being young) makes a marriage extremely hard. You guys have really tried, but once again, that's life.

And it's really not so bad, is it? There are 48,000 more waiting on the website if you choose to go that route again and if not, now you can concentrate on the bar and once you're a lawyer here, it's not like there's going to be a shortage of @$$ is it?

Once you're working, it's going to be @$$ soup. I'm talking boy-band @$$. Until then, study hard, pass that bar, and get back into the action! Good luck on your new Journey and hope you have a nice life.

Slim