Schoolgirl Rape Victim Burned With Acid

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Emotional scaring is not enough. Leave them disfigured as a lifetime physical memory. These are the sickest of the sick. Sorry anti-DP folks. I say butcher these types. It would send a loud and clear message.

Acid attacks are on the rise. It's hard to believe.

[Ban Hammer 14,674]

This story makes me wish they had "eye for an eye" justice there.

[Yaads 1]

Poor girl That is just so sad.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yep pretty disgusting... Of course not the worst thing I've read by a long chalk. After a while though I wonder what the point is of highlighting things like this... Its not that the story isn't newsworthy, but all that you can really do is tut, say "that's horrible" and go on with life until the next disturbing story pops up.

That said - I hope the guy gets punished to the fullest extent of the law...

and yet some people are against capital punishment

Of course there are people who don't approve of the death penalty, but that doesn't mean that those folks are somehow to blame for this... It also shouldn't suggest that there aren't exceptions to every rule - but then again using cases like this as ammunition in a political debate is rather tasteless. I think, anyway.

Indeed given the young age of both the victim and the attacker, it might have been more accurate to say:

"and yet some people are against trying juveniles as adults"

The DP is irrelevant anyway as Britain hasn't had the DP for many years. Even if it was legal there - it likely wouldn't be for that crime, and doubly wouldn't be because the alleged perpetrator (if indeed the police have the right guy in custody) was under the age of 18. I thought that even here in the US the DP is only reserved for murder, and even then for people over legal age. I know the judicial sentences in the US can be severe - but can you legally be executed as a 17 Y/O? I'm not sure...

[Empress of Groovy 373]

Emotional scaring is not enough. Leave them disfigured as a lifetime physical memory. These are the sickest of the sick. Sorry anti-DP folks. I say butcher these types. It would send a loud and clear message.

Only if they're listening. The "sickest of the sick" often are not.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Omg! OMFG! There isn't a smilie character or even words to express my rage in this instance.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

This is not uncommon in southern asia. I wonder what the victim and boys names are.

Fair question.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Unfortunately your observation speaks volumes.

Emotional scaring is not enough. Leave them disfigured as a lifetime physical memory. These are the sickest of the sick. Sorry anti-DP folks. I say butcher these types. It would send a loud and clear message.

Only if they're listening. The "sickest of the sick" often are not.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

This is terrible and tragic.

Without looking up the statistics, a certain number of women are brutally raped every minute in this world. Although we may not be able to stop evil in this world, there is much that each person can do to help lower violent assaults on women.

http://www.stopvaw.org/

Sexual Assault

Whether perpetrated by state actors or by non-state actors whom the state cannot or will not control, sexual assault is a violation of women's human rights. Women are sexually assaulted by state officials while in police or other forms of state custody; they are raped during armed conflict and as refugees; they are sexually assaulted and abused by their spouses and intimate partners. In all of these contexts, women face significant obstacles in gaining necessary protection and assistance. The stigma and shame associated with sexual violence, combined with societal norms that often blame the woman for the attack and condone the perpetrator's behavior, criminal justice procedures that put the victim on trial instead of her assailant, and laws that fail to protect her if she was not also beaten during the attack-all contribute to women's continued vulnerability to sexual assault. Advocates in Central and Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union (CEE/FSU) and around the world work to further women's human right to be free from sexual assault in a variety of ways.

Advocates work to provide necessary services to victims, including referrals, legal advice, crisis centers, and hotlines. Advocates and medical professionals have taken steps to improve hospitals' responses to the medical, psychological and emotional needs of sexual assault victims as well as to develop procedures for collecting and protecting the integrity of evidence necessary for prosecutions. Legal professionals have fought for the passage of laws that would protect victims from being revictimized during legal proceedings and for legal reforms that, among other things, would allow more effective prosecution of assailants who abused a position of trust or authority to coerce sexual contact. Advocates and educators have worked to prevent future sexual violence by creating awareness-raising programs and educational initiatives that provide information and discussion about gender roles and relationships for children and adults alike.

Critical to these global efforts has been the growing recognition of sexual assault as a violation of women's human rights. States are obligated under international law to take effective steps to protect women from sexual violence, to hold assailants accountable, and to guarantee to women equal protection of the law.

http://www.stopvaw.org/Sexual_Assault

[SMOKE 1,426]

and yet some people are against capital punishment

Of course there are people who don't approve of the death penalty, but that doesn't mean that those folks are somehow to blame for this... It also shouldn't suggest that there aren't exceptions to every rule - but then again using cases like this as ammunition in a political debate is rather tasteless. I think, anyway.

Indeed given the young age of both the victim and the attacker, it might have been more accurate to say:

"and yet some people are against trying juveniles as adults"

this is not a political debate. noone said people against the DP were to blame for this. instead of trying to correct someone, why not think about what was said? i said "and yet some people are against capital punishment " meaning-these people that did this are savages & should be dealt with as such (as was said earlier eye for an eye justice). their punishment should be as brutal & distasteful as the crime, (they have ended this girls life as she knows it, & ruined the rest of it. theirs should be ended too) not given a pass on their actions.."counseling & rehabilitation". pfft ####### eva!

as far as trying juveniles as adults. did you read the story? they kidnapped her, raped her, & poured acid on her in an effort to either destroy evidence or to further scar this girl. are you kidding me? a 17 year old that orchestrates or participates in an organized planned attack this violent & disgusting should be tried as an adult. and the punishment should be brutal and final.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

and yet some people are against capital punishment

Of course there are people who don't approve of the death penalty, but that doesn't mean that those folks are somehow to blame for this... It also shouldn't suggest that there aren't exceptions to every rule - but then again using cases like this as ammunition in a political debate is rather tasteless. I think, anyway.

Indeed given the young age of both the victim and the attacker, it might have been more accurate to say:

"and yet some people are against trying juveniles as adults"

this is not a political debate. noone said people against the DP were to blame for this. instead of trying to correct someone, why not think about what was said? i said "and yet some people are against capital punishment " meaning-these people that did this are savages & should be dealt with as such (as was said earlier eye for an eye justice). their punishment should be as brutal & distasteful as the crime, (they have ended this girls life as she knows it, & ruined the rest of it. theirs should be ended too) not given a pass on their actions.."counseling & rehabilitation". pfft ####### eva!

as far as trying juveniles as adults. did you read the story? they kidnapped her, raped her, & poured acid on her in an effort to either destroy evidence or to further scar this girl. are you kidding me? a 17 year old that orchestrates or participates in an organized planned attack this violent & disgusting should be tried as an adult. and the punishment should be brutal and final.

I don't think I misunderstood you at all - you made a pretty clear political argument: that people who don't believe in the death penalty are wrong-headed as somehow evidenced by this case. The reality is that this wouldn't be a death penalty case for numerous reasons - rape isn't an executable offence, and the age of the victim would almost certainly mitigate that. Beyond all of that the UK doesn't have the death penalty on its law books.

If the question is should this the be case? - are the other punishments left on the table sufficient punishment for this sort of crime...? Probably not... But then again I'm not the judge.

I read the story, if I hadn't I wouldn't have commented on the thread. As I said its disgusting.

Edited January 16, 2008 by Number 6

[SMOKE 1,426]

and yet some people are against capital punishment

Of course there are people who don't approve of the death penalty, but that doesn't mean that those folks are somehow to blame for this... It also shouldn't suggest that there aren't exceptions to every rule - but then again using cases like this as ammunition in a political debate is rather tasteless. I think, anyway.

Indeed given the young age of both the victim and the attacker, it might have been more accurate to say:

"and yet some people are against trying juveniles as adults"

this is not a political debate. noone said people against the DP were to blame for this. instead of trying to correct someone, why not think about what was said? i said "and yet some people are against capital punishment " meaning-these people that did this are savages & should be dealt with as such (as was said earlier eye for an eye justice). their punishment should be as brutal & distasteful as the crime, (they have ended this girls life as she knows it, & ruined the rest of it. theirs should be ended too) not given a pass on their actions.."counseling & rehabilitation". pfft ####### eva!

as far as trying juveniles as adults. did you read the story? they kidnapped her, raped her, & poured acid on her in an effort to either destroy evidence or to further scar this girl. are you kidding me? a 17 year old that orchestrates or participates in an organized planned attack this violent & disgusting should be tried as an adult. and the punishment should be brutal and final.

I don't think I misunderstood you at all - you made a pretty clear political argument: that people who don't believe in the death penalty are wrong-headed as somehow evidenced by this case. The reality is that this wouldn't be a death penalty case for numerous reasons - rape isn't an executable offence, and the age of the victim would almost certainly mitigate that.

If the question is should this the be case? - are the other punishments left on the table sufficient punishment for this sort of crime... Probably not... But then again I'm not the judge.

I read the story, if I hadn't I wouldn't have commented on the thread. As I said its disgusting.

everything is not a political statement #6. i made a comment on the story, no political undertones. yes i am pro DP. yes you misunderstood me. no i did not blame this on anti DP folks. are you reading w/ political glasses on?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

and yet some people are against capital punishment

Of course there are people who don't approve of the death penalty, but that doesn't mean that those folks are somehow to blame for this... It also shouldn't suggest that there aren't exceptions to every rule - but then again using cases like this as ammunition in a political debate is rather tasteless. I think, anyway.

Indeed given the young age of both the victim and the attacker, it might have been more accurate to say:

"and yet some people are against trying juveniles as adults"

this is not a political debate. noone said people against the DP were to blame for this. instead of trying to correct someone, why not think about what was said? i said "and yet some people are against capital punishment " meaning-these people that did this are savages & should be dealt with as such (as was said earlier eye for an eye justice). their punishment should be as brutal & distasteful as the crime, (they have ended this girls life as she knows it, & ruined the rest of it. theirs should be ended too) not given a pass on their actions.."counseling & rehabilitation". pfft ####### eva!

as far as trying juveniles as adults. did you read the story? they kidnapped her, raped her, & poured acid on her in an effort to either destroy evidence or to further scar this girl. are you kidding me? a 17 year old that orchestrates or participates in an organized planned attack this violent & disgusting should be tried as an adult. and the punishment should be brutal and final.

I don't think I misunderstood you at all - you made a pretty clear political argument: that people who don't believe in the death penalty are wrong-headed as somehow evidenced by this case. The reality is that this wouldn't be a death penalty case for numerous reasons - rape isn't an executable offence, and the age of the victim would almost certainly mitigate that.

If the question is should this the be case? - are the other punishments left on the table sufficient punishment for this sort of crime... Probably not... But then again I'm not the judge.

I read the story, if I hadn't I wouldn't have commented on the thread. As I said its disgusting.

everything is not a political statement #6. i made a comment on the story, no political undertones. yes i am pro DP. yes you misunderstood me. no i did not blame this on anti DP folks. are you reading w/ political glasses on?

You made a comment on the story that is essentially using it for a dig against people that hold an anti-DP position. There's not an undertone - the meaning is pretty explicit.

Edited January 16, 2008 by Number 6

[SMOKE 1,426]

You made a comment on the story that is essentially using it for a dig against people that hold an anti-DP position. There's not an undertone - the meaning is pretty explicit.

read what you want. i explained myself (not that i needed to). if you want to take it as a dig, go for it. you know i don't candy coat my opinion on anything or write in code. if what you keep saying was true, do you think i would just say it?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You made a comment on the story that is essentially using it for a dig against people that hold an anti-DP position. There's not an undertone - the meaning is pretty explicit.

read what you want. i explained myself (not that i needed to). if you want to take it as a dig, go for it. you know i don't candy coat my opinion on anything or write in code. if what you keep saying was true, do you think i would just say it?

You did.