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Call off the race-hustlers… It’s just another fake hate incident

Confederate flag hung from Boston memorial for black soldiers

A Confederate battle flag was attached Sunday night to a Boston memorial that commemorates one of the first all-black regiments to fight for the union during the Civil War, hanging there for over an hour before a woman removed it.

Melissa Carino, 37, of Lowell said she saw the flag hanging from the Robert Gould Shaw and Massachusetts 54th Regiment Memorial across the street from the State House at about 8 p.m. Carino said she left and returned to the location later, angered that it had not been removed.

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The 54th Regiment was commissioned by Governor John A. Andrew shortly after the Emancipation Proclamation. It was the inspiration for the 1989 movie “Glory.’’

Late Sunday night, the flag appeared ripped and torn from attempts to remove it. But it remained tied to the monument until 10:30 p.m., when Carino finally untied it and took it down, placing it in a trash can.

RELATED: How the Confederate flag wound up on the statue

“It makes me angry to have to do this in my own town,” she said. “I was like, really? Is that for real?”

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A squad car carrying two Boston police officers arrived at the monument at 10:45 p.m., after the flag had been taken down. As a national monument, the memorial is managed by the National Park Service. Earlier in the evening, a Boston police spokesman said he thought the monument was under state jurisdiction while a State Police spokesman said it was on city property.

Timothy Buckley, a spokesman for Governor Charlie Baker’s office, said rangers from the Department of Conservation and Recreation had been notified and were sent to the scene to remove the flag.

The memorial has a history of vandalism. It was splashed with paint in 2012, and a man was arrested for trying to remove a sword from the statue in April 2015.

Passersby expressed displeasure at what they called a racially motivated act, with some citing the outrage over the controversial flag after the murder of black churchgoers in Charleston, S.C., earlier this month.

“Such an expression of hate is not acceptable,” said Dara Poulten, 34, of Medway.

“Obviously it’s pretty upsetting to see,” said Jonathan Krieger, 29, of Jamaica Plain. “When somebody puts something in a spot like that, obviously they are trying to send a message, and it’s an upsetting message.”

Must have been that KKK guy

Globe correspondent Sammy Evers contributed to this report. Niko Emack-Bazelais can be reached at niko.emack-bazelais@globe.com. Jennifer Smith can be reached at jennifer.smith@globe.com.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/06/28/confederate-flag-hung-from-regiment-memorial/bLFrtGsKCLAEpFFDBsX0DK/story.html#

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Black student says he hung Confederate flag on memorial for black soldiers Stephen Allsop was part of a group that burned Confederate flags

A man claiming responsibility for hanging a Confederate flag from a memorial for black soldiers says he didn’t intend it as a racist gesture—and in fact was protesting the symbol and what he believes it represents.

Some who saw the flag hanging from the memorial—including a woman who took it down—interpreted its placement as a hateful gesture. The flag hung from a sword held by a sculpture of Col. Robert Gould Shaw, commanding officer of the Union Army’s Massachusetts 54th Regiment.

Harvard Medical and MIT student Stephen Allsop told Boston.com that he was part of a group of demonstrators that left the flag on the memorial after a Confederate flag-burning ceremony on Sunday evening.

Allsop said he and five others gathered at the memorial at 7 p.m., where they burned two Confederate flags as a way to show “solidarity with people who live in states like South Carolina” where the flag remains a “blatant issue.”

The gesture came amid a national debate about the Confederate flag following the murder of nine African-Americans in a South Carolina church earlier this month.

“The Confederate flag is inextricably tied to a legacy of terrorism, oppression and hatred,” said Allsop, who is African-American. “It cannot be separated from that.”

While one of the flags was burned “pretty completely,” the second was only “partially burned,” so Allsop said they hung it from the memorial.

“We thought it would be clear we were trying to show the destruction of that symbol,” Allsop said.

The Robert Gould Shaw and Massachusetts 54th Regiment Memorial commemorates one of the first all-black regiments formed during the Civil War. The regiment inspired the Oscar-winning 1989 movie Glory.

Melissa Carino told The Boston Globe that she spotted the flag hanging from the memorial around 8 p.m. on Sunday. Carino returned later that evening “untied it and took it down, placing it in a trash can.”

“It makes me angry to have to do this in my own town,” she told The Globe. “I was like, really? Is that for real?”

28098.jpegStephen Allsop in front of the memorial with partially burned Confederate flag.
Courtesy of Stephen Allsop
IMG_20150628_200911.jpgA photo taken by Allsop on Sunday.
Courtesy of Stephen Allsop

The memorial’s long history of vandalism may have contributed to the conclusion that the flag was left as a message of hate.

In January 1954, the sword held in Colonel Shaw’s hand went missing. It wasn’t the first time.

“On an average of about twice a year, somebody—probably small boys—steals the sword out of Colonel Shaw’s hand as he rides down Beacon Street with the legendary 54th Massachusetts infantry,” reported The Globe, in a 1954 article headlined ‘Do We Need 24-Hour Guards Over Shrines?’

In August 2012, a Quincy woman threw yellow paint on the memorial, “also splattering a family visiting from Wisconsin,” according to The Globe.

In April 2015, a Charlestown man was arrested after he broke off the sword and fled the scene.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/06/29/black-soldiers-monument-marred-confederate-flag-has-history-vandalism/emvp9nIEToEKNXMTrMmziK/story.html

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Okay. So another story you posted but failed to either read or comprehend. It wasn't a fake hate crime it was a Confederate flag protest that was briefly misinterpreted.


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Call off the race-hustlers… It’s just another fake hate incident

Confederate flag hung from Boston memorial for black soldiers

A Confederate battle flag was attached Sunday night to a Boston memorial that commemorates one of the first all-black regiments to fight for the union during the Civil War, hanging there for over an hour before a woman removed it.

Melissa Carino, 37, of Lowell said she saw the flag hanging from the Robert Gould Shaw and Massachusetts 54th Regiment Memorial across the street from the State House at about 8 p.m. Carino said she left and returned to the location later, angered that it had not been removed.

Continue reading below

The 54th Regiment was commissioned by Governor John A. Andrew shortly after the Emancipation Proclamation. It was the inspiration for the 1989 movie “Glory.’’

Late Sunday night, the flag appeared ripped and torn from attempts to remove it. But it remained tied to the monument until 10:30 p.m., when Carino finally untied it and took it down, placing it in a trash can.

RELATED: How the Confederate flag wound up on the statue

“It makes me angry to have to do this in my own town,” she said. “I was like, really? Is that for real?”

Continue reading it below

A squad car carrying two Boston police officers arrived at the monument at 10:45 p.m., after the flag had been taken down. As a national monument, the memorial is managed by the National Park Service. Earlier in the evening, a Boston police spokesman said he thought the monument was under state jurisdiction while a State Police spokesman said it was on city property.

Timothy Buckley, a spokesman for Governor Charlie Baker’s office, said rangers from the Department of Conservation and Recreation had been notified and were sent to the scene to remove the flag.

The memorial has a history of vandalism. It was splashed with paint in 2012, and a man was arrested for trying to remove a sword from the statue in April 2015.

Passersby expressed displeasure at what they called a racially motivated act, with some citing the outrage over the controversial flag after the murder of black churchgoers in Charleston, S.C., earlier this month.

“Such an expression of hate is not acceptable,” said Dara Poulten, 34, of Medway.

“Obviously it’s pretty upsetting to see,” said Jonathan Krieger, 29, of Jamaica Plain. “When somebody puts something in a spot like that, obviously they are trying to send a message, and it’s an upsetting message.”

Must have been that KKK guy

Globe correspondent Sammy Evers contributed to this report. Niko Emack-Bazelais can be reached at niko.emack-bazelais@globe.com. Jennifer Smith can be reached at jennifer.smith@globe.com.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/06/28/confederate-flag-hung-from-regiment-memorial/bLFrtGsKCLAEpFFDBsX0DK/story.html#

For the rest of the story.....

Black student says he hung Confederate flag on memorial for black soldiers Stephen Allsop was part of a group that burned Confederate flags

A man claiming responsibility for hanging a Confederate flag from a memorial for black soldiers says he didn’t intend it as a racist gesture—and in fact was protesting the symbol and what he believes it represents.

Some who saw the flag hanging from the memorial—including a woman who took it down—interpreted its placement as a hateful gesture. The flag hung from a sword held by a sculpture of Col. Robert Gould Shaw, commanding officer of the Union Army’s Massachusetts 54th Regiment.

Harvard Medical and MIT student Stephen Allsop told Boston.com that he was part of a group of demonstrators that left the flag on the memorial after a Confederate flag-burning ceremony on Sunday evening.

Allsop said he and five others gathered at the memorial at 7 p.m., where they burned two Confederate flags as a way to show “solidarity with people who live in states like South Carolina” where the flag remains a “blatant issue.”

The gesture came amid a national debate about the Confederate flag following the murder of nine African-Americans in a South Carolina church earlier this month.

“The Confederate flag is inextricably tied to a legacy of terrorism, oppression and hatred,” said Allsop, who is African-American. “It cannot be separated from that.”

While one of the flags was burned “pretty completely,” the second was only “partially burned,” so Allsop said they hung it from the memorial.

“We thought it would be clear we were trying to show the destruction of that symbol,” Allsop said.

The Robert Gould Shaw and Massachusetts 54th Regiment Memorial commemorates one of the first all-black regiments formed during the Civil War. The regiment inspired the Oscar-winning 1989 movie Glory.

Melissa Carino told The Boston Globe that she spotted the flag hanging from the memorial around 8 p.m. on Sunday. Carino returned later that evening “untied it and took it down, placing it in a trash can.”

“It makes me angry to have to do this in my own town,” she told The Globe. “I was like, really? Is that for real?”

28098.jpegStephen Allsop in front of the memorial with partially burned Confederate flag.
Courtesy of Stephen Allsop
IMG_20150628_200911.jpgA photo taken by Allsop on Sunday.
Courtesy of Stephen Allsop

The memorial’s long history of vandalism may have contributed to the conclusion that the flag was left as a message of hate.

In January 1954, the sword held in Colonel Shaw’s hand went missing. It wasn’t the first time.

“On an average of about twice a year, somebody—probably small boys—steals the sword out of Colonel Shaw’s hand as he rides down Beacon Street with the legendary 54th Massachusetts infantry,” reported The Globe, in a 1954 article headlined ‘Do We Need 24-Hour Guards Over Shrines?’

In August 2012, a Quincy woman threw yellow paint on the memorial, “also splattering a family visiting from Wisconsin,” according to The Globe.

In April 2015, a Charlestown man was arrested after he broke off the sword and fled the scene.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/06/29/black-soldiers-monument-marred-confederate-flag-has-history-vandalism/emvp9nIEToEKNXMTrMmziK/story.html

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You do realize one person, that happens to be black wearing this flag, doesn't make it alright?


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Just pointy out irony.

It's not when the person isn't talking about it. Irony would be someone protesting it and still wearing it.


“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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It's not when the person isn't talking about it. Irony would be someone protesting it and still wearing it.

“React how you want. Like I said, any energy you got is good energy. You know, the Confederate flag represented slavery… So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It’s my flag now! Now what are you gonna do?”


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“React how you want. Like I said, any energy you got is good energy. You know, the Confederate flag represented slavery… So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It’s my flag now! Now what are you gonna do?”

Dude is not the sharpest tool in the shed.


“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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React how you want. Like I said, any energy you got is good energy. You know, the Confederate flag represented slavery So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. Its my flag now! Now what are you gonna do?

So why come to America to represent something that's wrong??? ??

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Just pointy out irony.

It's funny how the actions of one black person represent the whole black race but the actions of one white person doesn't........

So why come to America to represent something that's wrong??? ??

Many black people know Kanye is a fool. I don't support him.

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So why come to America to represent something that's wrong??? ??

you may want to ask kanye about that, since it is a quote of kanye's....


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It's funny how the actions of one black person represent the whole black race but the actions of one white person doesn't........

Come again? I didn't say anything of the sort.

So why come to America to represent something that's wrong??? ??

Are you saying Kanye shouldn't have come to America? He was born here.


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Come again? I didn't say anything of the sort.

Are you saying Kanye shouldn't have come to America? He was born here.

Janelle was implying this is the mind frame many people resort to using. She's not saying you said this, but folks use this as an argument to say something isn't a problem....


“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Janelle was implying this is the mind frame many people resort to using. She's not saying you said this, but folks use this as an argument to say something isn't a problem....

I am black and I endorse this comment.

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