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maybe my math is messed up help me get on track members

The permit was definitely issued in 1988

It has since expired on 02/2013

permit is typically valid for 5 YEARS.

88 till 2013 i think little more then 5 years?

I'm originally from PA. I thought that was kind of funny that it was valid for 25 years. I will speak to her more on Saturday to try and get the truth and more details.

I'll check with her again. The permit was definitely issued in 1988. She said it had expired in February 2013. I asked where it is now and she said she didn't know. So now I have a big doubt that she even has a clue as to what is going on here. It kind of vouches for her stupidity in thinking that she was a citizen. I'll ask her about employment records. If she put anything on those it's over for me. Yes someone can really be this stupid. Capri mentioned about when did she discover she wasn't a citizen. That's why I posted here. I didn't even think of that. To reiterate she could have received the permit in the state as a legal resident. So she didn't really do anything that gave her an advantage as a citizen. The good news is is that she has no kids. The stupid genes will stop with her. :-)

Hello to all. I'm helping someone with the N-400 process. Then she hit me with it. Back in 1988 this girl thought that since she's married that she's automatically a US citizen. So while living in PA she applied for a gun carry permit and received it as a US citizen even though she was still a legal resident. It has since expired on 02/2013. I normally don't get stuck but this one threw me for a loop. PA does issue carry permits to legal residents which she has been since she was nine. Should she try to fix this with the state or in Section 10 just check yes and offer an explanation. I'm worried about that one. As far as I know she never applied for work as a US citizen.

Thanks in advance!!!

Hello,

I'm helping someone fill out a K-1. Her Fiancee in Ecuador doesn't know any English. Since the ds-156 is an Electronic form could we fill it out here an list someone else as helping him with the form then send it to him for him to sign and print? Could we print it here?

Thanks!

I didn't have that problem; they may have just given a general timeframe just in case.

Yeah social security basically said the immigration computer says she's the maiden name and not the married name. But as the previous poster said it takes time to update the system. She did get her resident card in 3 months 10 days. It was quite fast.

Here is something interesting. My wife's aunt and her daughter just received their conditional permanent resident cards. There are no errors on the cards. They go to the social security office and they say that the daughter's name matches in the immigration computer system. But, the aunt's name in the immigration system is still under her maiden name yet the resident card is under the married name. The social security office said that it will take 4 weeks to confirm the info. What I don't understand is that when she went to the social security office 2 months ago with her work authorization card they told her she'd have to wait 4 weeks but didn't give an explanation. Is this normal? If she has to correct it where does she start?

Is there anyway to correct this without having to file an address change? Thanks!!!!

The mail does get there. I just wanted to make sure they have everything correct.

Yes it is... Just provide 2 copies of your W2.

Goodluck and Godbless

I forgot to ask about pay stubs. I assume that one set of copies are good for both. Thanks!!!!

Hi...I know you can use a copy of the I-864 filled out for the mom for the minor daughter. However, do you need to have 2 copies of the tax records and w-2's??? Or, is the evidence for the K-1 sufficient for the K-2?

You sign it for her. I have the same situation.

Should she sign in part 5 or part 6?

You sign it for her. I have the same situation.

Great Thanks!!!!

I understand most of the paper work. However a few questions pop up. On the I-485 for the 8 year old K-2. How is she supposed to understand the application and affirm that everything is correct and then sign it at 8????? If anyone can think of any other tricky parts please let me know. I'm fully versed on K-1 AOS. This K-2 is a little confusing.

Thanks in advance

If not sending in the AOS is a matter of just being lazy or forgetful or having second thoughts then it wouldn't constitute abuse, but if as the OP posted in one response, the Petitioner uses the AOS as a way to control the beneficiary (i.e. threatening to net send it in during a disagreement or to elicit certain behavior), then it is definately abuse. Especially if it is an ongoing pattern. Mental abuse is every bit as heinous as physical abuse and the scars run every bit as deep. Obviously there are marital issues that they should try to resolve, but this dangling and retracting of the AOS is abusive. Whether it meets the requirements of VAWA I don't know but if the Petitioner continues this then it is worth looking in to.

As for the "if things didn't work out I would have just returned home" comments, Everyone's home and everyone's country are different. Returning home to Australia or the UK is a far cry different than returning home to Vietnam or Ecuador or Nigeria. If the beneficiary has given up everything to move to the US, returning home and "starting over" isn't always an option.

This is a great response. I started this post because I was starting to see a pattern of when he gets mad the AOS goes out the window. I'm keeping a close eye this week to make sure that her and the kid aren't lacking with food. When he's mad food shopping also goes out the window for a few days. (If that wouldn't be abuse then I don't know what is.) You are very correct. Australia is very different from developing countries. She would have absolutely nothing if she went back.

I would think withholding AOS is covered under the VAWA.

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This is what I was possibly thinking. I really don't want to have to go this route with them. But, I just want to get a head start if something does go wrong. This will all fall in my lap and that's why I'm involved to the point that I am. Thanks for the info.

Whoa... this is an extremely un-V.-like post.

OP, detailed information about the situation is lacking until you provide it, but it sounds as though counseling should be a top priority. If they won't consider formal marriage counseling, then friends of each should intensely interact with them, individually at first and then together, to try to unearth and then defuse whatever is underlying the situation. The key term is "intensely," meaning not just poking around, but taking clear interest and not stopping until the chief and subordinate issues are completely understood. Sometimes it can help even when an arguing couple realizes that others care about them as a couple.

I see the Ecuador sign. I don't even have to say another word. You'd understand. My observation is that he needs to realize that he is a family unit now and she needs to realize that Ecuadorian Customs get left behind. We both know the deal. They both listen when I speak to them. I just hope it turns around. They go a few months without any issues and the Pow!!! the world comes apart and I'm running for the super glue. I have to play translator when she has to say something and can't word it right and vice versa. Communication is a culprit as well.

Without documented abuse/ abuse allegations she's in a tough spot. There isn't much of an option for her, though recent rulings do open a window of sorts for K1's adjusting status without the petitioner.

What game do you believe the husband is playing? Regrets the marriage? Unsatisfied with the marriage? Being controlling? Insecure? The first many months are full of stress and adjustments for both the immigrant(s) and USC. Hopefully they can see their ways clear to doing some work on their relationship to get back what brought them together. Often the realities of life together aren't nearly as exciting as the long distance love. Any way someone can facilitate a discussion? (family, friend, clergy)

OK, so I will pose the question for all those thinking it: If the recent marriage goes south wouldn't she prefer to return to her home where she is familiar with everything and has lived her whole life with her child? Or has she bonded with life in the US to such an extent over the past 6-8 months that she can no longer think of any place else as home? (please, no flaming responses) It's always a thought when the couple is quick to throw in the towel.

You state that you are worried about having to pick up the pieces if the marriage doesn't last. Perhaps having a straight forward conversation with your aunt about her limited options for staying may be a catalyst for their dialog. And a chat with the husband about the stress being felt by his wife (and likely the child). Get them to see this as a relationship issue first, not an immigration issue.

Best of luck.

Being married 8 years to a K-1 I understand what you're saying. I've played the mediator before with good success. I think they both have to mature. Insecurity on his part I would guess as the problem. I get along with him very well. I told them that culture clash is common. I just don't want the little girl to get hurt. Her Aunt sold everything to come here. A business and a house. So she has nothing to go back too. She also has a lot invested financially in the marriage. She would need some of that money to get started again. This should work out. I just wanted to get ahead of it just in case.

Yeah I'm a big poo head I know. Could have worded it differently but my main point is the OP appeared to be (though could just be me) fishing for someone to mention VAWA. So many people jump on the VAWA bandwagon any time something isn't going the way they want and I was trying to point out (ineloquently) that just because he wasn't doing the GC doesn't mean he HAD to or that the OP's friend or whatever should accuse him of abuse for not doing it.

I do find it odd that he doesn't want to get the GC and that he's being so resistant given how arduous the visa process is. You're right that counselling is needed. But I also think if he's not getting it for her then why stay? I just honestly, sincerely don't get that. Had tony not AOS'd me I'd be home. I came for him, not the GC. I've been here long enough that I might consider staying now till I got USC but I suppose that depends on the situation. Just on 6 months in I would definitely have gone home.

If I wanted to go fishing I'd go to the Long Island Sound with my Fishing pole. Who are you to judge what I'm thinking? This is supposed to be a helpful website of people in like situations. Please don't assume what I'm thinking. I just wanted to see if anyone had a similar situation. There is a little girl involved here that I've know since she was a baby in Ecuador. I'm mainly looking out for her. These two have been in this situation before. I've explained to them that this is normal. I get scared because if something does happen, I'm the one that will take care of them until they either go back or try to recover all or some of her financial investments in the marriage. If you sold everything you had to come here like a business and a house you'd have nothing to go back too after 6 months here. Please keep your opinions to yourself and just answer the question. He is using the AOS as leverage. If he's mad for even a second he'll mention that he won't send them in. I think that's pretty abusive. So again if you think you've answered the question then stop posting how you feel or what you would do. I personally don't care.

You wrote the date wrong because it's not even December 2011 here so she can't have married then.

What's the issue with the forms? Completely the I-864? Or paying the fee? If the fees an issue you could try offering because it's not cheap to do it for two people and at least that way she'd have started the process. But the I-864 needs to be done by him and him alone.

It was 12/11/2010. I think he's playing a game. I don't think it's the money. That's why I'm asking if this goes south what options are there? There are no issues with filling out the forms. I have them already filled out.

The immigrant files the AOS by themselves actually - all that is required from the citizen is the I-864 (which is a lot to be fair). She could start filling out the paperwork herself.

I have all of the paper work filled out and I'm waiting to see what's going on. I wish I could do the I-864 for her using my finances. Plus the removal of conditions interview would be an issue.

Here is the situation:

My Wife's Aunt K-1 Married: 12/11/2011 Well within the 90 days. Also 7 Year Old K-2 Kid. (previous marriage) Her husband keeps finding a reason why he can't send the AOS paperwork in and it's becoming very tense and slightly mentally abusive in their house. Are there any options or recourse? I'm hoping this resolves itself, but I have to get informed because my wife and I are going to be the ones dealing directly with the fall out. Any help would be appreciated.

Hi... I posted the first phase of the our plan in USC section. After that is finished this is the other plan. When my wife's mom comes here as a PR based on USC Daughter Petition. She will have no job. How can my wife and I co-sponsor her for the daughter in Ecuador. (Wife's Actual Sister with Same Mom and Dad) Am I considered household with the mother-in-law if she lives with us or is only my wife considered household? I need to know if my wife and I can combine our income to sponsor the mom for the daughter or since my wife doesn't make enough money do I have to file a separate I-864 showing sufficient income for 4 people. Wife, Mom, Sister, Myself? This is all new territory for me. Thanks in advance.

By the way...Does anyone know how long it takes for a PR Mom petitioning Daughter in Ecuador?

Can somebody please put this back in the PR Seeking to Bring Family Members Section. It's a two part question. Thanks!!!

Hi... I posted the first phase of the our plan in USC section. After that is finished this is the other plan. When my wife's mom comes here as a PR based on USC Daughter Petition. She will have no job. How can my wife and I co-sponsor her for the daughter in Ecuador. (Wife's Actual Sister with Same Mom and Dad) Am I considered household with the mother-in-law if she lives with us or is only my wife considered household? I need to know if my wife and I can combine our income to sponsor the mom for the daughter or since my wife doesn't make enough money do I have to file a separate I-864 showing sufficient income for 4 people. Wife, Mom, Sister, Myself? This is all new territory for me. Thanks in advance.

By the way...Does anyone know how long it takes for a PR Mom petitioning Daughter in Ecuador?

Hello... This is an income question. My wife is going to sponsor her mother, so the mom can then sponsor the sister. I heard it's much faster than the USC petitioning for the sister. Anyway, my wife does not make enough to sponsor the mom. I make enough to sponsor 2 people and with her income we can sponsor 3. Will this work? Can my wife and I combine income to meet the 125% for 3 people or do I alone have to have enough for 3 people. Thanks!!!!

Definitely true. Although it's possible, it becomes difficult to demonstrate non-immigrant intent (for the student visa) when an immigrant petition has already been filed.

She just started her 11th Grade. I would hate to lose a year or more to wait for the student visa when we could start the process for residence. I also heard that student visa process is separate from the residence process and neither affect each other.

Yes and Yes

Thank You!!!

it is possible. I possessed a valid visitors as well as student visa while I was filed for. It never became an issue

Thank You!!!