trinket

Was pretty uneventful. And I'm still sick since the 30th so ... yeah.

You guys following the Spanish/German/Indian forced to marry USC thread? Crazy! I can't tell if it's a troll (most likely) or really someone trying to be sneaky about their situation but dunno what rich influential family with dual citizenship and knowledge of immigration laws would not know a person is using the internet on their laptop while keep them on pretty much house arrest.

I was sympathetic all this time because I know for sure these things do happen in India all the time. But now she is getting on my nerves. Which part of she needs passport while talking with IO doesn't she get. She is talking about not involving her parents, how can parents be involved if they aren't US citizen? She doesn't know what i-94 is. She never answered many of my questions regarding what kind of documents she was made to sign.

Joe has warned me that he will take my laptop away if I don't give up on that thread, I guess I will be a good wife and listen to my husband for a while.

Seriously did you NOT read what I wrote. I am really thinking now that you are a troll. You will have your frigging passport IN YOUR HAND when you meet up with IO

How come you have no clue what i-94 is? You say you are on a student visa, how come you have never filled it before? Seriously you are more worried about GC than your life.

Here is the thing, you can't travel out of India without your passport, so 1 of the 5 relatives you are traveling with will have your passport, also when you stand in line at the immigration section in US, they WILL have to hand you over your passport.

Point is, you will have your passport with you when you enter US, there is no other way around. So all you have to do is come up with the money to go to your native country. I would assume your country is likely to help you out with the plane tickets and a safe refuge.

You will have to risk your family into this, there is no other way around. You said your parents are not US citizen, so most probably they won't be questioned, also the relatives you are going with may simply deny any involvement into forcefully marrying you off. In that case, ask for help with IO, tell them you just want to get to the nearest consulate of your country and I am sure they will help you. Your relatives can't stop you in that kind of a situation where law officers are present right there.

I would say if you are for real, just stick with the plan of talking to the IO officer at the airport. Take refuge in the country you really belong to and start your life over. Keep calm and delete your internet history record from your laptop.

Also it was around 5:30 am in India when you posted first not 4:30 am.

I feel like a svcker for falling for the "urgent help" thread

I don't know what to say anymore. May be she is hiding her citizenship for whatever reason. The thing is these forceful marriages do happen. And svckers like me get trying to help the person.

I just hope no one gets in a situation like this ever, but making a mockery out of stories like these is totally out of line. I won't call the OP troll but I hope she better have good reasons for hiding her citizenship status. And if the story is true she gets out of the situation safe and sound.

Well it's not about being a man enough, he is still young and how many people does he know, media rarely helps plus i have already told you how influential my family is, what can 1 person do against 40 people with the law in their hands, doing anything in India would be a blunder, I can't pin my life and his on media people.

Not just saying Media, how about NGO or emailing to Indian Embassy in Spain. Look, I do understand you are scared and it is a very serious situation. How about emailing Spanish police? They might be able to get in touch with the Spanish Embassy in N. Delhi and they might help.

You have more rights as a Spanish citizen than what you will have in US. You don't have OCI or PIO, and your family is friends with big guns. You have limited resources, just use whatever means you can is all I am suggesting.

Is that sufficient to have these two PCCs ?

Yes it is. Thats all you need 1 pcc from RPO and another 1 from the district Police office.

Thanks for replying, yes he is an indian descent, and i am not a PIO or OCI card holder, but they did wanted me to get one before coming to India but since i am a foreign national my application was denied at the US embassy and told to apply from india or my own country.

Email Indian embassy of Spain, tell them your situation. They might be able to help. Also as I pointed out earlier, look for women right advocates or NGO in your Punjab district, they can help, doesn't matter what connection your parents have with the CM.

Yes you never answered if you got OCI or PIO or not. I was thinking if nothing else and if you do have any of these cards, take refuge in India itself. Have you contacted your boyfriend? You can email him, and if he is man enough to take the risk, go to authorities, if not in Punjab, go to Delhi. If you have to involve media in your case.

You won't have many rights in US. BP officers will only forward you to Spanish consulate or embassy.

I don't know about student visa, but can you transfer your credits to different university in some other state with the same VISA. Also if you do decide to leave your studies for now, so you can get away from the family and marriage, will the student visa be valid in that case?

Do think about all these criteria too before deciding what you would want to do. You certainly don't want to live illegally in US. I still say go back to Spain and start over again. A few years lost in studies is worth compared to living in misery and threat for the rest of your life.

No they have booked the same flight to new york with me, they are all US citizens, He is not coming with me, he has another flight booked for later.

You can also try to seek help from the Air Hostesses. I remember one case back in the late 80s where the flight attendant rescued one minor girl from being sold out to one of the Gulf countries.

But be calm for now, don't say anyone about your plan, not even your sister or anyone.

trinket that is wonderful!!! i hope he enjoys amreeka. does he know what state?

He doesn't know yet, but they operate in 3 states, NY, Washington and Florida, so any of the 3. He isn't excited, actually a bit heart broken, he wanted to get Japanese port

Oh Starlight, I watched 3 Idiots last night, hella movie girl, enjoyed it thoroughly

Yes I agree with Kaus, forget about the GC. If your story is true you indeed are in a great danger and don't even worry about GC. If I were you, I would rather try to go to Spain than US.

You aren't a US citizen, you aren't even an India citizen as India doesn't allow dual citizenship. You will get much more protection in Spain compared to these 2 countries.

About how it is possible for Punjab to have its law, well I am not a lawyer but I would guess every state can have their own laws. Also its not just about the NRI law, your people can have a religious marriage ceremony (if they got that many links, they won't even need to have an actual ceremony, a priest will just sign the papers) and then register the marriage like that. Much easier and hassle free.

Okay but what about the paper i signed on the engagement day, that b@st@rd called me up in the morning next day to tell me just this that we are married now and you will get a green card within 3 months, after that i haven't signed any papers yet, he has also planned a family vacation tomorrow maybe to gather evidence or god knows what, i am feeling scared to death, what kind of a mess have I fallen into.

Do you know if the papers had registrar stamps on it? Like a 20 rupees or 100 rupees stamps? If so then those might be for notary officer of district court. Those papers could just be affidavits for requesting permission to get married under NRI act or could also be marriage papers itself.

Did you at least read those papers?

Also do you have OCI (Overseas Citizenship of India) or PIO (Person of Indian origin), try contacting Police authority or district judge with that, these days every district has their email set up. If you are scared that your parents have links with police authorities, try for women right NGO in your area.

If you really want to get free and feel that your parents got links in all these above mentioned places, try to email media outlets, they can help, once the story comes to any news channel, your parents and all their links will be forced to give you a free way. Media outlets need sensational story and you need your freedom, use it if you wish for. If you want I can provide you some of the email addresses of those.

Yes these kidnapping and forceful marriages happen all the time in India. Some points

--You said Spanish Embassy is 10 hours drive from where you live, so I would assume you are living in North India, that is either Punjab or near by. Both Punjab and Haryana states have passed a new law a couple of years ago, where it is meant for NRIs and this law allow NRIs to marry quickly, so 30 day wait period doesn't matter if you are in any of these states.

--As others have attested only Spanish Embassy can help you as you are its citizen. I do assume that you do belong to Indian descent, if so as any other Indian girl you might have some jewelery on you, sell that if you can and get the money for train fare and run to Spanish Embassy.

--If not that, when you do leave for US, that is in another couple of weeks, shout at the airport, tell the authorities your story, get refuge at any women shelter till the time divorce hasn't been proceeded.

Others might think you are a troll or this is a bizarre case, but I can understand that this is a true case, things like these happen all the time. Parents want their Indian kids to be following "Indian tradition" and make sure they marry anther Indian and not someone from another race.

You might be in danger even when you come over to US, as you have said your parents got links, if you have to leave New Jersey and start your life somewhere else, do it. If you have to leave school for a bit and start over again, do it. That is better to do than living under threat.

People might think I am exaggerating but other Indians can attest to it, kids do get killed if they dishonor the family, and I don't wish another young kid losing their life because they didn't want to be married to someone they love. I wish you best and hope you can come out of this situation

Anyone been reading the cat thread on RUB forum?

I glanced through, its too long. What are they discussing about, why men buy foreign wife and all those typical blah blah?

Moi is very happy today, looks like my lil bro's job is sending him to amreeka; he just finished his 2nd Mate officer training and got a job offer from a shipping company in India (they are going to sponsor his work visa for US), so hopefully once his training period is over he will be coming to amreeka, I can meet up with him more often this way

Aww thanks Nagi, I had a great time too last night

Yesterday, I asked my hubby if he will take me out for a fancy dinner for Valentine's day... He goes "huh, when is valentine's day anyway???" And I look at him with serious disbelief, and he said that he doesnt remember dates very well. So I ask him, "Do you know when Christmas is??" and he goes "I dont remember the exact date, but I know it is at the end of December"

Your husband sounds like mine, he doesn't even remember his own birthday. When we got married, he said he will forever remember our "anniversary" as he it is all so important to him. Ask him today when he got married, he will say some weird date.

I swear I was scared during my interview thinking they might do one of those cross ref. interviews and my husband will mess up all the dates.

Any postal letters with stamps if she got, more affidavits from her side of the family, parents, friends. Chats if possible, hotel receipts of you two together, any honeymoon reservations and things like that.

Your list looks good, so you do got everything covered.

Just popped in to see your result, congratulations

Yes its good that they kept his passport, sign of short AP. It will be over soon

Ok, going back to bed

I am from India but I come from the same climate as in Philippines. I came in Nov. 2008, and yes it was too cold for me, I am in Midwest. It wasn't just the cold, but it was also breathing problem along with the cold, a bit of fast walk would have me breathing for air, I never felt my throat this dry before, I would wake up in middle of the night catching for breath. My husband used to keep the temperature at 80 degrees all the time, yes we got a nice bill for that but I didn't care it was just too much of cold for me.

Fast forward, living here for 1 year now, 65 degree is t-shirt weather for me now, I am doing much better than my USC husband in coldness department. We went for a walk today, it was 19 degrees, after a bit of walking I let my husband use my beanie because he was shivering; once we got back home he wanted to switch on the heater to 75 degree, I really didn't care about the heater. My breathing is much better, though I use a humidifier these days and it helps.

Both me and my husband are amazed at how much I got adjusted to the weather in a year's time, I think I am lucky that way because I read/hear other people's experience and it takes them more than a couple of years to get adjusted. Guess it depends upon your body after all.

yeah, my god-mother bought me one for christmas. just opened it tonight. it is absolutely freeezing here!!! they need to make it to cover feet too

i am going to the chat room around 9:15 central if anyone wants to join in.

Will be there at 9:15

And I want a snuggie for myself. I did buy one for my grandma, I should have bought one for me too.