sandinista!

My husband more or less doesn't care if he knows any Moroccans here. There are a few guys he's met that he'll talk to occasionally, but they're not a major component of his social life. This may change as the kids get older, and he has more time for socializing outside of family, but maybe not. But other Moroccans weren't really a factor at all in his settling in here.

Jinx, lol. Should've refreshed before posting

You don't know? The same way someone can look French or Brazillian or Japanese or Egyptian... people groups tend to develop similar looks and mannerisms, not to mention that whole genetic race thing...

French, like Nicolas Batum, whose dad was from Cameroon? Or François Hollande? Brazilian like Gisele Bündchen, or an Amazon basin native? Does a pretty darn American looking person look like a Cherokee or an Inuit, or Shaquille O'Neal?

I showed this forum to my fiance last night and he laughed and laughed and asked "Is this what you're doing when you're not working?"All these feelings lol

But does he have any advice??

The woman whom I quoted in my earlier post was harshly criticized by a lot of forum members and so her thread was locked of any further comments as I am pretty sure those kind of comments are not really helping anyone and they certainly are not going to help the one who created the thread. Attacks rarely help anyone from what I can tell. But now I do understand why the ladies and men that have gone thru the visa process and had a bad experience DO NOT come back here to share with others. If you have already been beaten up emotionally by a bad relationship...why come to a board or forum like this and have people attack you??????? I am sure there are hundreds of people if not thousands whom have gone thru this process and could offer valuable experience to those with questions and needs or support, but they would be afraid to open themselves up to SOME people that I do not need to name because they are obvious. You can attract more fly's with honey than vinegar and I am sure whether you are Muslim, Christian or any God based religion you know that loving each other is the best way to get your point across. I am sure even this post will draw the talons and teeth out of someone here.

No one criticized her though for not getting married in the first place. No one should get married, if they're not feeling it, 110%. That lady's situation was STUPID. She screwed up, and had no business petitioning a visa in the first place. But that horse was already out of the barn. At least she didn't compound the drama by getting married anyways.

I gotta appreciate the absurdity of platitudes about fly's [sic] and vinegar, and God based religions and love from the OP who dropped the nonsense you did from your very first post, and random nonsense about MENA culture and socio norms. Applause.

And anyone calling you out on your BS is just a big meanie, who needs to get a life. Awesome coming from someone spewing what you have, just awesome. I'll take being a non candy coated realist over being someone trying to spread ####### all over anyone married to a moroccan because you chose a loser.

You can come here and talk about how you were wronged, and how sad it is this didn't all work out for you. Very few people will criticize that. But leave other people out of your own individual messes.

So much reading comprehension FAIL.

She didn't allude that you are any of those things. Nobody here has any idea what happened in your marriage. No one knows if he was scammy, scummy, or both and more. What is known is that your first post here was a screechy whine about a marriage you inexplicably stayed in for seven years, and what you thought was some earth shattering proclamation from some Moroccan doofus in a weird as heII position of having multiple women sharing their bad drama with a Moroccan with him. Yawn. Everything about this is absurd.

not making any "claim" I am stating the "facts" of my own personal experience that I am very qualified In explaining .

I am in no way prejudice or using a blanket statement about " all Moroccans" . My husband just happened to be 100% Moroccan. Im not a hater, definately have no prejudice against any persons or sexes. Just a woman willing to share an experience that I paid for, invested in, suffered thru and am now sharing in the event that others will consider it whilst embarking or thinking of embarking on visa journeys.

On a side note "sierrasunset" and I hope you done take this wrong or find it offensive but, I don't see anything in my post that you highlited reflecting anything resembling "stereotyping" although you did refer to me as ignorant several times as well as hateful and allude to the assumption that I am or was cold, stubborn selfish lol......for a teacher well I hope your kinder to those you are trying to teach especially about " world religions"

Religious similarities or differences are part of the overall big picture the consulate in Morocco will look at. They may be much more interested in the particulars of the website you met on, your ages, and other demographics more so than shared or different religious beliefs.

How well you know each other, how much time spent together before and after marriage, and why, if it was a decidedly quick marriage without much time spent together for example, things like that.

There are lots of funny, corny things going on in MENA, and they're fun to talk about. I just wouldn't put actual human suffering and pain in the same humorous context. Egypt's human rights deficits for all of their citizens don't belong with their corny furniture and amazing studio photography effects is all.

Divorce is less common due to Egypt's prevailing misogynistic interpretations of Islamic family law that are a far cry from sunnah ideals. The ways it falls short of those ideals isn't the kind of thing i say hahaha about, but that's just me.

Of course the people posting "matter", and the validity and overall background of who is saying what should be addressed. Not all advice or postings are equal in helpfulness, regardless of tone. Rosesarered, you've been nothing but mostly polite here, but I'm just not seeing exactly what's supposed to be so informative or profound about the random opining of some Moroccan guy only you know, or the constant reminders in the thread that you are REALLY ATTRACTIVE so it's so totally shocking that you ended up in a crappy marriage for 7 years with a guy you bought a car for. But opinions on that will vary.

Cheers.

If you can't see why anyone would take offense to a comment with that attitude, then you have nothing further to say to me. That's called being rude and I won't put with it from you or anyone else on this forum. You set the tone with that sarcastic response when I only asked you to politely direct me to the forums you referred because marriage makes me nervous. I have said my piece with and have nothing further to discuss with you until you can have decent conversations without being ugly. Have a good night.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/415507-do-we-need-a-sticky-for-newbies/

also, you really should apologize to Nigeriaorbust. racist, bigoted comments aren't allowed here, and won't go ignored when you ask for advice or feedback anywhere else here.

That's a much better response than that ####### you posted above. Good to know you feel like a know it all since you've been through the process. Good for you. I'd rather have doubts and wait before entering a marriage than go blindly into without without stopping and thinking more on it, especially when everyone you know is against the marriage in the first place which they have no problem expressing. So what do you know? Nothing. Nothing about me or us enough to sit behind a keyboard and hand out judgement based on a comment on a public forum. A single sentence comment. Really ma'am? Realy? In that one comment you have determined my whole relationship with my fiancee? I asked for advice on using the best judgement on ensuring that you're not marry someone using you for a green card not ridiculing me for having thoughts of paranoia occasionally after reading the post above. Especially one coming from the same country I'm marrying a man from! You have a good night ma'am, and I hope in future when people seek advice from someone who has been through the process, particularly those coming from Morocco, you will have the decency at least find something positive to say than being a negative Nancy. Unless you have something nice to say that's contributing to the better of the overall movement of any particular post I suggest you keep your rude and mean comments to yourself!

Case in point. Nothing here has anything to do with what I actually posted. No, i didn't ridicule you for having doubts or paranoia. It does not sound promising, but that's hardly ridicule deserving. But it is flipping crazy to be talking about and actively planning immigration in regards to someone you expressed having those kinds of feelings about.

You set the tone for how your question was responded to. You. And no one else. Your responses to AmyWrites and Nigeriaorbust in your B2 thread, when they were being completely honest and helpful, and not the least bit rude, were APPALLING. That's the foot you started off on here, and what you were given back. The background info you've provided is all that people have to work with when answering your posts, and it shouts big red flags. Yes, it's great to hear feedback from people in similar situations with immigration and SOs from the same places. No, no one is obligated to sugarcoat or alter the way they word things to fit your personal whims or try to figure out your totally random hysterics here.

Well for one, I haven't stated the branch of service or position I work in because it's irrelevant to the discussion. Second, my fiance and I have decided to postpone marriage until I'm more comfortable with it. If I can't listen to the criticism from family and friends without harboring some of the doubt projected, then I, for myself need more time. I'm sure there is a lot of great immigration information coming from some individuals who have been on the forum a lot longer. However, I also believe there is a way that constructive criticism can be given without being rude or nasty to other individuals posting on the forum. Reading a lot of the comments, the good and bad, have made me more comfortable about pausing because I want to be sure and 100% ready for my one and only marriage when it does happen.

I'm so sorry for all of this FBW. I wish all the best for you, for the easiest, most comfortable treatment possible, and good outcomes.

Please point me in the right direction so that I can stop being paranoid before I marry my Moroccan man. . .

the guy who wants to get here asap so he can join the air force, you're having doubts about? Smdh.

Plenty of people respond to or at least look closer at their situations when offered good advice here. It's not all heads in the sand all the time. Plenty of long, interesting threads on this exist. There's a difference between some of the really good dialogues that have taken place, and throwing out random thoughts from some random Moroccan guy talking out of his ####### like it's gospel.

There are also multiple ways of answering the CO's questions, truthfully.

There's some debate over whether or not it's best to answer questions as concisely as possible, or expound.

Like answering "8 months" vs "I met my fiancé 8 months after opening on account on that site. We started talking about blah blah blah, when we both commented on so and so's profile, and started to get to know each other better from there."

Some people are way more comfortable and sound less nervous offering narratives than when they answer direct questions . Other people sound weird, rehearsed and shady. It all depends.

Yes, translators are available at interviews. No, it is not a good idea to do a visa interview in Arabic if English is the only language shared and used by a Moroccan guy and his American fiancé or wife though.

Wa salaam

You specifically said, in the two threads that got shut down by mods, that you were asking about work and tourist visas because the actual visa that's appropriate to your situation takes too long. Visas don't work like Burger King, where you can have it your way. Unless he is really truly most definitely absolutely just visiting, which everything you've posted recently says that isn't the case, then get in line like everyone else is/has done.

Your employer is entitled to fire you if you do anything to bring them into disrepute, that includes things written on social social media and making questionable public statements - think police and teachers.

Anyone who has had a job of any worth would be aware of this.

I would of thought what happened to Charlie Sheen ought to be lesson enough on the subject.

You're right, though there are sometimes weird social discrepancies in who gets fired and shunned. The entertainment business is fundamentally different from police and teachers, in the social effects/costs of either group spewing stuff like this and societal

tolerance is fundamentally different because their roles are so different. I don't know if the two can really be compared?

It's weird though sometimes, the way some people in entertainment get all kinds of passes that other people in entertainment don't.

My husband's come across a few people here and there who think he's talking about Monaco when he says he's from Morocco. They'll start babbling about casinos and Grace Kelly, and he's like, what now? Nice people, just not the best geography skills.