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1 minute ago, Timona said:

How are you filing for your dad? Online? 

Yeah. I am filing online for him as well.

19 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I 485 has nothing to do with your process.

Agreed. I think Timona thought I might answer the question 61a/b Part 4. My mom lives outside of US that is why I dont fill in City/ State questions for 61a and 61b Part 4. I only filled for 62a/b/c Part 4 questions for consulate process. 

I was asking what city/state the application was filed for my mom when I submitted her application online in Part 5 for questions 3a/b. 

3 minutes ago, Timona said:

There's a part there that asks if you're doing it in US or Outside. It proceeds this question. Make sure you choose Outside so when you reach this question, countries Outside US pop up

Yeah I did not enter US city state in other question for I-485 because she lives outside US. I chose outside of US and entered city/ country for consulate process. This question in other hands do not pop up country and it is same on hard copy with city and state.

5 minutes ago, Timona said:

Consulate location in your home country 

I cant because state drops down button only has US states.

Hello,
 

I filed petition for my mom online using I-130 form where she is living outside of US. I am now filing for my dad. I have question relating to Part 5 I-130 as followed:

 1. Have you ever previously filed a petition for this beneficiary or any other lien? Yes as I filed for my mom.

Provide name, place and date of filing where I have a hard time with place: City or Town and State. I filed her application online and she will have to go through consulate process. Which city and state I need to put here? Is it my city and state? There is no service center either as this is online process.

Thanks.

1 hour ago, OldUser said:

Yes, include his name.

 

Include her name.

 

You need to interpret questions literally. It doesn't give you any instructions to skip if name is on other application etc.

 

Thank you. It will be repeated many times if I am going to apply for my sister and brother as well. 

Hello,

I am in process of filling out I-130 to sponsor my parents and I am now US citizen.

I have few questions relating to I-130 Part 5 

Mom petition: 

I am filling for my mom and I need help with Part 5 questions 

1. Have you ever previously filed a petition for this beneficiary or any other alien. The answer should be No.  No problem with this question.
2. If you are also submitting separate petitions for other relatives, provide names. The answer is I should include my Dad name there even I have not submitted it yet? 

Dad petition:

1. Have you ever previously filed a petition for this beneficiary or any other alien. The answer should be Yes as I filed for my mom at this time and provide my mom name/ date file etc. Is this correct?

2. If you are also submitting separate petitions for other relatives, provide names?

Do I need to provide my mom’s name or I already filed for her and her application has my dad name already hence I dont need to mention it again?

Thanks.

1 hour ago, Timona said:

I was actually thinking it is like the other forms, where though there's no end date for a situation, you can use the date you send the application as the end date because the system won't allow to submit without an input. 

 

That being the case, I'd suggest put the date you're submitting as your end date for your current marriage. That will give the count as 2. 

 

Additionally, you're filing based on a marriage. So, they know you're still married. 

 

Or do what @Rocio0010 said.

@Boiler any input? 

I would not prefer to put fake end date on my current marriage to prevent further misleading information. 

14 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

I have seen so many of these cases whereby the total marriages are wrong (myself included!) that I am thinking it might be a glitch in the system. 

Two options: either you proceed online and clarify at the interview (I did that, but that's because I didn't realize this mistake until the day prior to the interview) or you file by paper.

I am planning to do online and clarify at interview as I hate to print out a list of evidences for 3 years marriage. Any issue came up when you clarified at interview?

Thanks.

3 minutes ago, Timona said:

You're his second marriage? Answer is 2. 

 

You may wanna review earlier input. It may be that you did not include his previous marriage. If you did, then N400 probably doesn't want to include you as you're automatically ignored. 

 

There's some weird situations with N400 online application sometimes eg based on some answers you give, it won't ask certain questions. Then on your final snapshot, you'll see those questions and you're left scratching your head. 

I am his second marriage and I did fill out the first marriage that he divorced with date etc. I was thinking to add myself into it but it wont allow as it will ask date of marriage and end date of marriage. I will check all question again but this is weird to me.

Hi all,

I am trying to file N400 using online tool and got a roadblock. My current husband divorced his previous marriage to marry me.  When I reviewed application before submitting, it said my husband got married once which is incorrect so I paused my application until I know how to fix it.

On paper form, the question 8, part 10 I can type 2 easily but online tool does not have this question. It asked my husband prior marriage info date of marriage and divorced which I filled it. 

I might misunderstand the question 8 part 10 which might only ask total  prior marriages without including current marriages which is me?  

Question8 part 10: How many times has your current spouse been married (including annulled marriages, marriages to other people, and marriages to same person)? If your current spouse has been married before, provide the following information about your current spouse’s prior spouse.

Can someone educate me on question 8 part 10 whether it needs to be 1 or 2? If it is 2 then how can I fix by using online tool? I have not submitted the application yet. 

Thanks.

I have heard multiple cases in Vietnam got denied because divorced and then re married the same person.

Lets not talking about visa thing and ask ourselves: How many percent of people will remarry the same person in real life after divorced ? It is really rare so IO wont believe it.

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

How old is the child, for the child to be an issue the child would need to be a minor when the PD becomes current,

 

The father may need to agree to the child moving but see above.

 

Once the daughter moves to the US and obtains PR status then she can marry and sponsor husband.

 

Obviously all this takes time.

Thanks, Boiler. Child will be ~ around 1 year if her mom filed petition right now. So child will be still minor when PD becomes current.

Hello All,

I am asking these questions for my childhood’s friend. Her mother came to US under IR5 category (i.e.  her oldest daughter that filed petition).  Her mom now has greencard and want to petition her  daughter in Vietnam that is above 21 years old for F2B category. Her daughter is still single at this point. It should be straightforward F2B case, however her daughter had been dating a guy and they now have a child together.

1. Her mom told her to not getting married as she can only petition non married son/daughter above 21 years old because her mom is permanent resident not US. Citizen. Will this complicate situation later where her daughter wanted to marry the guy and petition him to US under marriage category?

2. Can her mom petition her and child or child has to stay with her father? Note the birth certificate has father’s name. Is there some sort of paper that she needs to get father’s signature so that child can go with her? 

Thanks.

On 7/7/2019 at 10:50 AM, WandY said:

Speaking from experience, the name order doesn't make any difference to people in the U.S. My wife's name has been messed-up numerous times, but it never matters to Americans. However, it can be a headache when traveling overseas. Just a few weeks ago, my wife was stopped by Vietnamese officers in the Hanoi airport. Her China Southern ticket didn't have the same name order as her VN passport. They made her go to the China Southern ticket counter and get a stamp - we had no idea what "get a stamp" meant. However, the ticket agent stamped her ticket with a "Priority Class" stamp and that was good enough. The stamp had nothing to do with proving her identity. We traveled in several countries and the only hassle we received was in Vietnam. I guess we should have slipped the guy 200,000 dong. We're not going to straighten out her name until citizenship and her U.S. passport. And with a U.S. passport, she won't get pushed around (as much).

What did your wife fill out a question in N-400 Part I question 3 “Other names you have used since birth”? 

Did she have any issue for Naturalization with incorrect name?

Thanks.

1 hour ago, thanhmakeysother said:

Thanks again for the reply. This really does help a ton.

 

In a way, the way our green card is now is 'correct', and when we do the N-400, we will just do a name change to take one of her 'middle names' as her first name since that's just her preference. I do not think this will cause any issues.

 

We are thinking we will hit up a lawyer that deals with the Vietnamese community, and get his take on it as well.

 

Do you know anyone who has gotten citizenship with their middle name as first? They didn't run into any issue?

My sister and my aunt got the same issue but we did two different approaches.

1. I renewed my sister green card I-90 form and I realized her name was wrong on her old card. I changed her name on I-90 and need to show birth certificate etc to get approval. It was going back and forth with USCIS. They finally changed her name on green card then she used correct name for N-400. She needed green card to travel and it was expired when she was 12 which she could not apply US citizenship at the time. That was reason I-90 was filed instead N-400.

2. My aunt case was different a little. Her driver license has correct name because DMV people must look on the form instead of geeen card and I believed her SSN was wrong so I assumed her Green Card was wrong. She then applied N-400 back then and it was wrong as resulted her name on US passport was wrong. She recently wanted to change her incorrect name to correct name which she has to pay money to do so to match name on all cards.

1 minute ago, thanhmakeysother said:

Thank you for posting this. I wonder if I can find a Vietnamese-to-USA community that might have experience with this exact issue and what they did to rectify it. Cause I know we aren't the only ones who are facing this issue.

 

Do we need to get her green card corrected before we do the N-400? I've heard conflicting information. Some say it MUST be corrected, and others say it won't be an issue.

 

Do you have any thoughts?

 

Have you filed for I-751 yet? Did you put her 'green card' name or her 'real name'?

There was many people got this issue in the  past. They suggested us to not doing anything and use name on greencard as official name as it would be hard to change it with I-90 as you cant say Vietnamese passport order is the problem. Vietnam passport order did not list First name is this or Middle name is that so it is not Consulate’s fault. What kind of documentation we need to show USCIS to correct it because their fault in I-90? How do we convince USCIS correct name is legit?

My wife has 10 years greencard hence she does not do I-751. She will file N-400 at the end of this year and we will use her greencard name to be her name on N-400. She does not plan to change her name back on N-400 either. If she passes, her US passport name order will be Last name Middle name (green card first name or her wrong first name in US) and First name which will match to Vietnamese passport.

It is not straightforward to us at all and we dont like to do this way. I agreed with other people said to correct it  but it is not straightforward and I am not sure it will bring up more issues with I-90 or not.

On 1/31/2023 at 8:58 AM, Timona said:

Your name mixup will cause a lit if issues at N400.

 

A name change like filing N400 after divorce is understandable. That is, dropping married name to go back to maiden. This is understandable. 

 

A name rectification because you decided to switch order of names/ annex a first name like in your case calls for scrutiny. Someone must have put the wrong order when your papers were filed. No way USCIS decided to give you a new name.

You need to get this fixed now before N400/ I-751.

 

File I-90. 

I dont think that someone put wrong order when they filed papers. It is Vietnamese passport name order issue.

US passport name order lists Surname and Given Name. Given name for US passport lists as First name and then Middle Name. US name on order passport is Last name First name and Middle name.

Vietnamese passport name order lists in weird way that is not standard as following: Last Name Middle Name and First Name.

When American people look at Vietnamese passport, they thought it would be the same order as US does. That is why they would think Middle name on Vietnamese passport is First name (same order in US passport) and First name is Middle Name. Hence when Consulate printed visa, it needs to match to passport order which greencard will follow the same order as visa.

Many Vietnamese people got this issue specially people come here with IR1 or CR1 visa including my wife. K1 visa people filed I-485 form in US which they put correct name on the form and USCIS prints it to match with the form so they dont have issue.

@daniel_and_lilyYou now can fly to Saigon without quarantine at facility or hotel. You need to stay at home for three days and if you have negative test then you can go around. You dont need to be on business visa to travel in this time. As far as I know there is only Vietnam Airline that are allowing to fly to Vietnam. Unfortunately, the ticket is expensive. One way from SFO or LAX is near two thousand dollars to Vietnam and it will cost you another one thousand dollars to fly back to US. Note that these flights are non stop flight. 

9 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

OP's copy states R2, is that what you mean?

 

Yeah. That is correct. It mentions on top of letter R2-A type of blue sheet. This is what I observed on many blue sheets from Vietnam.

Vietnam is one of the top visa fraud countries. You can search visa fraud in Vietnam (2013) where US officials were bribed and convicted. There was new event that involved with visa fraud that happened in Texas recently (2019) and 99 people were charged. This is one of the reasons why US officals will scrutinize or even think all applications are not fraud. 

The blue sheet questions are really generic questions for all people such as family tree relationships, timeline of relationship, list all relative people that live in US. However, it all depends on what you included in the original package. There are two types of blue sheets that they usually give in Vietnam.

1. R1 type- which they usually believe the relationship but applicant/petitioner forget or misses some form or they need new update tax transcript due to new year which petitioner did not submit at NVC stage. This one is easy to get approval.

2. R2 type- This one usually has a lot of requests on blue sheet about 8 questions +. I had seen someone had 10 -12 questions on it. This usually happens when they are questioning the relationship. I would recommend you to read each question carefully and submit all relevant evidences as possible.

I usually frontloaded everything I can even including beneficiaries benefits (401k, stocks, added her to my credit cards authorized user which you can add it) and tax/health insurance which has her names on it (I did CR1 so I can file tax as married jointly and added her to health insurance card).

Good luck.

My wife Vietnamese password has this order, which is the right order for Vietnamese nationals: Last Name, Middle Name 1, Middle Name 2 and First Name.

However, the her CR1’s visa was printed by using the name in the order that shows in passport as 

Because of it, my CR1’s visa following 

• Surname - My wife  actual last name (correct here)
• Given name - Middle 1, Middle 2 and First Name. (order is wrong here as it should be First name, Middle 1 and the Middle 2 name but the order is matched to her passport)

Her SSN matches to the name that shows on visa which is Middle 1 Middle 2 First and Last name. Her greencard arrived today with Last name: (Correct here), Given name: Middle 1 and Abbreviation of Middle 2 name in front of the card. The backside of permanent card is matched to her passport Last  Middle 1 Middle 2 and First Name.

Is there the way to fix this without causing more issues? will she have any problem when she travels?  what will she use for firstname for DMV? I assume she would use Middle 1 Middle 2 and First name in First name blank?

Thanks

6 hours ago, Imachapyaa said:

Thats awesome!!! So good to hear! Thanks. Did she come with a cr1 or ir1 visa? 

She came with CR1 visa however she arrived just a little bit over 2 years wedding anniversary.

9 hours ago, Imachapyaa said:

How long does it take to receive green card after entering US? Has covid slowed down green card processing? Im trying to figure out how long it will take to receive green card after entering USA on a CR1/IR1 visa. 

My wife came to US on 1/16 and her permanent residence card was mailed yesterday. I was quite surprised. She also got her SSN card in a week after she arrived.

1 minute ago, pushbrk said:

She should give the new address to the CBP officer when she enters the US.

 

Thanks. I will ask her to do that.