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What puzzles me is how so many disgusting creatures are all located in the same geographical area ?

greedy selfish people are everywhere, sadly. i encountered a bunch here (in the uk) when i went to the mall earlier. i encounter them every time i go there, without fail.

I don't know where you are in the UK Rocks, but I used to frequent Brent Cross Shopping Centre on occasion and honestly, I hear ya.

bristol. the home of chavs like vicky pollard.

OMG !! yer but no but yer but no but yer but no but shut up !! Anyway it woz this fing that you no nuffin about coz you wernt even there and you can't prove nuffin so you dont even know what you are talking about, and anyway it was all shelley's fault cause she was round the back of the yoof centre doin well bad stuff with kyle coz he gave her a bite of his curly wurly, and anyway its all about this fing you no nuffin about so shut up !

get drunk a lot together, laugh every day together, never stop going on "dates", and talk about everything !

What puzzles me is how so many disgusting creatures are all located in the same geographical area ?

greedy selfish people are everywhere, sadly. i encountered a bunch here (in the uk) when i went to the mall earlier. i encounter them every time i go there, without fail.

I don't know where you are in the UK Rocks, but I used to frequent Brent Cross Shopping Centre on occasion and honestly, I hear ya.

Yup.

Plus I am looking forward to going shopping for it, I'd love to be around mature and responsible lovers of the constitution.... and not the low-income scumbags who shop at Walmart.

You know A.J., I really think you should err on the side of caution, provide a little stand-off distance, and give him a RPG-7. Also, is he able to shout the words "back blast area clear?"

What puzzles me is how so many disgusting creatures are all located in the same geographical area ?

I'm gonna buy my 2 year old nephew a hand grenade for Christmas.

You might wanna wait until he is 4 and little more responsible ?

Nothing but polite shoppers at my local gun store. No shoving. No one died.

What a bunch of mindless scum!! Jeez, is Long Island home to the absolute dregs of humanity, that would trample a man to death just to save $10 ? This really should not be treated as an accident, and as someone mentioned previously, the security cameras should be examined and all the people who stepped on the deceased should be rounded up.

It's the malpractice lawsuits and insurance companies that hurt us all. Doctors need to pay anywhere from $80,000 to $200,000 per year simply to cover their butts. In addition, insurance companies pay the doctor whatever they feel is adequate. Knowing this, it's obvious why physicians charge the prices they do and often order unnecessary tests.

I couldnt have said it better myself.

We had our mortgage approved in about 2 hours (seriously). We had been looking for a new house and I stumbled on a brand new build in the area I loved. We went in, looked around, I loved it and my husband was so sick of looking, he bought it there and then. Had to pop back home for documentation to support the loan application, and as the homebuilder worked with a mortgage company who offered a $5k kickback, we went with them. The loan officer was fantastic and is now a good friend of ours. We put our house on the market straight away, sold it in 2 days, and moved into our current home within 5 weeks. Also, the home builder paid all of our closing, provided window treatments, $30k in upgrades, and buy-down for the mortgage !! hooray.

Where will the eastern states go? I reckon the Russians will work their way across and down. We should ask the UK to take Virginia at least... I could have good bread again, and we could easily get a load of South London football yobs to come over here and kick the bejesus out of anyone claiming Russian ownership on US land.

"Well, after the wedding we went to the Motel 6 (we live in a small town, thats all there was)

and it was on. We quickly undressed and got right down to business. I had to be careful, as she was a virgin and it was quite painful for her. I managed to get in there after a few minutes of trying. I only lasted about 2 minutes, but it was amazing. The best part was when we both orgasmed at the same time. I cried for a little while afterward, it was just so beautiful."

LMFAO !!!!

"it was quite painful for her" was clearly a typo. It should have read "it was like throwing a sausage down Oxford Street". (one for the Brits).

This still reduces the amount of seats the airline has to sell to passengers. The only way for the airline to maintain revenues is to raise prices. Whilst being severely obese is probably a disability, that disability could be greatly improved or eradicated for many simply by following a weight loss and exercise programme. People with walkers may not have that option open to them.

Oh, if only it was that easy.

Well for some it is. I did say in my post that "many" people classed as obese would benefit from a weight loss and exercise programme. I cannot remember how many times I have seen a Nutri-System tv ad that shows an obese person having lost an enormous amount of weight. Some people simply do overeat, or have a lifestyle that doesn't lend itself to healthy eating and exercise. If I don't eat well or exercise for a week then I will put on weight so I choose to eat a low fat diet with potion control, and exercise regularly. For some it would be as easy as saying "no" to certain foods, exercising some willpower in food choices, and doing gentle exericse.

I didn't read through this whole thread but a solution...

The airlines should provide variable seating.

So, if you're 7 feet tall and weigh 350lbs, when you buy your ticket, you let the airlines know and they assign you to a seat you'll fit into. Charging different rates based on a passenger's size is discrimination.

if they need more space they should pay more, just like business and first class do!

That's discrimination.

so using your example ... my 4'9" ex should have sued all the automakers for discrimination because they did not manufacture a car safe for her ... as she could not sit far enough from the airbag to be safe? give me a break ...

You're missing the point. Airlines have a reasonable alternative available to them. They can provide an additional seat and make accommodations at the time of booking if a person is larger. Its pretty simple. They're not asking the airlines to make bigger planes.

Manufacturing a smaller or bigger car is not a reasonable alternative because of the cost. Its an alternative just not reasonable.

How can airlines provide additional seating if the planes aren't any bigger? Additional seats cannot be introduced to existing aircraft as there simply isn't any room, especially in coach. How can airlines retain current pricing levels if two seats are to be given to a passenger that is classed as obese? On a similar thread some time ago on VJ, someone said that if the arms on coach sets were extended to provide a a solid barrier between passengers, then there could be no issue with someone "spilling" onto another passenger's seat. I thought this was a good idea as it meant that if you couldn't fit into a seat with barriers up, you would need to purchase two seats. This seems the fairest solution.

They don't make the planes seats bigger - they flip up the arm rest and the person sits in both seats. Lets be clear. This isn't for merely overweight people. This is for obese people who just cannot fit into one seat. So the airline gives them two seats rather than one. Its not some great comfort-fest.

Obesity in this case fell as a grounds for discrimination because its a physical disability. Where the problem lied for Air Canada was that they were willing to give two seats to people with walkers who had a physical disability, but people who were obese had to pay for a second seat.

This still reduces the amount of seats the airline has to sell to passengers. The only way for the airline to maintain revenues is to raise prices. Whilst being severely obese is probably a disability, that disability could be greatly improved or eradicated for many simply by following a weight loss and exercise programme. People with walkers may not have that option open to them.

6pack, she will be President one day.

I'm not a Palin supporter but I completely agree. She will be President and I would wager a lot of cash that its 4 years from now.

You must not like money. Or you have lost every last sense for reality.

Well in the event that I doubt you can see into the future, I am still happy to state here that she WILL be president, oh and wager it too.

Gotta love America. You have the damn right to be fcuking wrong around here. And do put lots of money on that wager. You can always earn it back.

and I fully support your use of that right

I didn't read through this whole thread but a solution...

The airlines should provide variable seating.

So, if you're 7 feet tall and weigh 350lbs, when you buy your ticket, you let the airlines know and they assign you to a seat you'll fit into. Charging different rates based on a passenger's size is discrimination.

if they need more space they should pay more, just like business and first class do!

That's discrimination.

so using your example ... my 4'9" ex should have sued all the automakers for discrimination because they did not manufacture a car safe for her ... as she could not sit far enough from the airbag to be safe? give me a break ...

You're missing the point. Airlines have a reasonable alternative available to them. They can provide an additional seat and make accommodations at the time of booking if a person is larger. Its pretty simple. They're not asking the airlines to make bigger planes.

Manufacturing a smaller or bigger car is not a reasonable alternative because of the cost. Its an alternative just not reasonable.

How can airlines provide additional seating if the planes aren't any bigger? Additional seats cannot be introduced to existing aircraft as there simply isn't any room, especially in coach. How can airlines retain current pricing levels if two seats are to be given to a passenger that is classed as obese? On a similar thread some time ago on VJ, someone said that if the arms on coach sets were extended to provide a a solid barrier between passengers, then there could be no issue with someone "spilling" onto another passenger's seat. I thought this was a good idea as it meant that if you couldn't fit into a seat with barriers up, you would need to purchase two seats. This seems the fairest solution.

6pack, she will be President one day.

I'm not a Palin supporter but I completely agree. She will be President and I would wager a lot of cash that its 4 years from now.

You must not like money. Or you have lost every last sense for reality.

Well in the event that I doubt you can see into the future, I am still happy to state here that she WILL be president, oh and wager it too.

6pack, she will be President one day.

I'm not a Palin supporter but I completely agree. She will be President and I would wager a lot of cash that its 4 years from now.

An article about truncating Bush's Constitutional reign in favor of hastening the rise of the Messiah from Chicago- hmmm. First, most of the current crisis of confidence comes from the collapse of the housing industry. I've said it before but Obama managed to have a prominent hand (number 2 in campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie) in crafting housing policy with other key Democrats in destroying $11 trillion dollars in a financial cascade effect. Now, the answer is not to just give Obama the untested more money to trump Bush's bailout but to do so before January 20th. I don't think Obama's mere presence or that of his economic advisors is going to do jack since his election hasn't led to any more confidence in the market so far.

Obama- Change nobody believes in and can't afford.

too true ALC

This just means that flight costs will increase as the Canadian carriers are losing revenue by having to give two seats for the price of one. Personally, I don't think I should have to pay more for a flight just because certain obese people refuse to eat less. How will an airline determine obesity? Will there be a fat measuring gadget at check-in? I think you are extremely selfish if your lack of willpower puts others at a financial disadvantage.

OH plz, just keep him in for 1 1/2 more months. Gas prices are going down and I like that. Let it be...

Are you suggesting that Bush is responsible for bringing the gas prices down? He actually might be but only to the extent that he's responsible for the crashing economy. I'd rather have the economy getting back on track soon. ** a few pennies at the pump.

For the record, Bush's overall impact on gas prices is that they went up from 1.19/gal when he took office to whatever they'll be come the long awaited Jan 20, 2009.

It just pure comedy

Well if its the church of 20 yrs of that crazy man then finding a new church would be a good change

And what of the employers that aren't currently paying anything for healthcare (which is what I thought the whole problem was in the first place)? Wouldn't a healthcare payroll tax of even 5 cents be an increase in their expenses?

Well, from everything I've read - we currently spend more money on healthcare per American than any other nation, and the proponents of universal healthcare have said that we could cut that money by almost a half.

Secondly, medical bills from what I've read are the number one reason why many Americans are forced into bankruptcy, so a universal healthcare system would elminate such problems.

In the UK, National Insurance Contributions (the part of your salary that goes toward the NHS) is as follows:

Class 1 contributions are paid by employees and their employers. They are deducted from their gross wages by the employer, with no action required by the employee. The employers also match these contributions (with the one exception below). There are three milestone figures which determine the rate of NICs to be paid: Lower Earnings Limit (LEL) , Earnings threshold (ET) and Upper Earnings Limit (UEL). In this context "earnings" refers to an employee's wage or salary.

* Below the LEL, no NICs are paid because no benefits can accrue on earnings below this limit.

* On salaries above the LEL and below the ET, NICs are not paid, but are credited by the government as if they were. This effectively assists the working poor who do get benefits.

* On salaries between the ET and the UEL (equivalent to £5,225 to £34,840 per annum), NICs are collected at the rate of 23.8% (11% paid by the employee and 12.8% by the employer).[5]

* On the portion above the UEL, the total rate drops to 13.8% (1% paid by employees and 12.8% by the employer)

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Insurance (because the Government site was really hard to follow this late on a Sunday.

Now this is for a system that is passable, at best, and where those who can afford it, take out private health insurance on top of the NIC. I can't be certain, but I think this level of cost is fairly typical throughout Europe. Judge for yourself whether this is more, or less onerous than what you are paying for health insurance now.

I am in favour of a system like this, with one, big proviso. The NHS model hasn't changed that much since its inception in 1946. Any system that is designed today would need to be structured for today's healthcare climate. And it needs to have no profit or quota criteria. Healthcare should be about the care first, not the money.

Can the USA achieve something like this? I don't know.

then who is going to pay for it ?? magic elves ??

The same magic elves who are paying for it today. Only these elves would get to save some seeing that we currently pay the most per capita for the least in coverage and service in return. That old scare book ain't working. The dysfunctional rip-off that is labeled "health care system" around here has been exposed. There isn't a sane person left that believes that this farce should be continued.

we pay the most for the least?? That is just silly and you know it. Anyway, without profit motive, there will be no new cancer drugs, or new surgical techniques, and anyone with anything less urgent than a critical trauma will be put on an endless waiting list. Where is the incentive for doctors and surgeons in a healthcare world that is driven by care and not cash? My doctor clearly earns 7 figures and he bloody deserves it. To the extent that there are inefficiencies in the US healthcare system, they were put there by needless regulation dreamed up by politicians and written by unelected bureaucrats. Do you honestly think the government gives a cr*p about your healthcare and whether you are adequately provided for? Of course they don't. Take a wander down to the DMV tomorrow and feel the love ....

Its a coin. Buy it, don't buy it - its hardly important.

I have to agree Mr McGee.

And what of the employers that aren't currently paying anything for healthcare (which is what I thought the whole problem was in the first place)? Wouldn't a healthcare payroll tax of even 5 cents be an increase in their expenses?

Well, from everything I've read - we currently spend more money on healthcare per American than any other nation, and the proponents of universal healthcare have said that we could cut that money by almost a half.

Secondly, medical bills from what I've read are the number one reason why many Americans are forced into bankruptcy, so a universal healthcare system would elminate such problems.

In the UK, National Insurance Contributions (the part of your salary that goes toward the NHS) is as follows:

Class 1 contributions are paid by employees and their employers. They are deducted from their gross wages by the employer, with no action required by the employee. The employers also match these contributions (with the one exception below). There are three milestone figures which determine the rate of NICs to be paid: Lower Earnings Limit (LEL) , Earnings threshold (ET) and Upper Earnings Limit (UEL). In this context "earnings" refers to an employee's wage or salary.

* Below the LEL, no NICs are paid because no benefits can accrue on earnings below this limit.

* On salaries above the LEL and below the ET, NICs are not paid, but are credited by the government as if they were. This effectively assists the working poor who do get benefits.

* On salaries between the ET and the UEL (equivalent to £5,225 to £34,840 per annum), NICs are collected at the rate of 23.8% (11% paid by the employee and 12.8% by the employer).[5]

* On the portion above the UEL, the total rate drops to 13.8% (1% paid by employees and 12.8% by the employer)

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Insurance (because the Government site was really hard to follow this late on a Sunday.

Now this is for a system that is passable, at best, and where those who can afford it, take out private health insurance on top of the NIC. I can't be certain, but I think this level of cost is fairly typical throughout Europe. Judge for yourself whether this is more, or less onerous than what you are paying for health insurance now.

I am in favour of a system like this, with one, big proviso. The NHS model hasn't changed that much since its inception in 1946. Any system that is designed today would need to be structured for today's healthcare climate. And it needs to have no profit or quota criteria. Healthcare should be about the care first, not the money.

Can the USA achieve something like this? I don't know.

then who is going to pay for it ?? magic elves ??