DennisWaldron

8 hours ago, melovescookie said:

Did they call you yet?

She didn't have to wait a phone call because she already had an old certificate & sticker.

It was all done in 2 days. Probably could of done in one but couldn't find an open bayad the first day.

Registered online,paid at bayad and printed new certificate. 

50 minutes ago, melovescookie said:

Thank you for your update... I was also trying to send one yesterday  and wednesday but I keep getting a time out... Can you tell me if you have encountered errors sending as well and what did you do to 

52 minutes ago, melovescookie said:

Thank you for your update... I was also trying to send one yesterday  and wednesday but I keep getting a time out... Can you tell me if you have encountered errors sending as well and what did you do to get it quickly?

We didn't have any issues. Though i think there is different link for first time counseling. We chose the pink box for pre departure orientation. 

Only asked for name,kind of visa,email address and upload copy passport and visa.

1 hour ago, melovescookie said:

hey hank do u know how she got the sticker? I am trying to apply today and cannot get any luck on the website I keep getting time out...

We have original cfo sticker from a k1 visa 3 years ago.

We just registered for another, online yesterday.

Now we just need to find an open bayad to pay, so can get the scheduled online counseling. 

1 hour ago, Hank_ said:

CFO-GCP  (spouse of USC, K-1)  is the same, once done it is good forever.    Does she still have the certificate for earlier?   I have been told they can look her up in the computer if she doesn't have the old certificate to issue the sticker.

Yes she still has the old certificate &/with a sticker in her passport.

Then your saying she will be issued another sticker for her passport?

So then She will have 2 stickers? 🤔

Thanks,

Dennis

Hi,

Is the CFO sticker visa specific?

Meaning if wife did cfo seminar for k1 left Philippines with that sticker, and is now leaving Philippines again with Ir1 visa.

Does she need to take cfo seminar again for a new sticker?

We were just going to try and do it again to be safe. But now im thinking with my luck it will cause some random issue.haha

Especially now because its online and they get a printable certificate and mail a sticker. (In which she has already a sticker in her passport from the k1)

Thanks,

Dennis

Thank you all for the replies. 

Though they wouldn't entertain the idea of an aka with an alias she hasn't used, Today We were able to at least add my name as spouse. With copy of marriage certificate. 

The 221g says

AKA NBI "with husbands last name listed"

Will submit tomorrow.  I'll let you know how we make out.

Thanks again for the input 👍 

23 minutes ago, nelmagriffin said:

Hi again,

I think Hank is right about that question of reporting marriage to the Philippine Embassy abroad. It is a law!

 

Report of Marriage is a process wherein the marriage solemnized / contracted abroad must be reported to the Civil Registrar of the Philippines through the Philippine Consulates/Embassies that have jurisdiction over the country / state the Filipino national is residing in. This requirement applicable to all Filipino Citizens who get married abroad. (“Law on Registry of Civil Status” / “Civil Registry Law” (Act No. 3753) ; EO No. 209 – The Family Code of the Philippines, Articles 23 & 26)

 

Report of Marriage forms are available for download on Philippines Consulates / Embassy websites. If you are applying through postal mail / courier, you have to have your ROM forms notarized. Also take note of the requirements you need to submit.

 

Read more about Report of Marriage here: Report of Marriage – A Philippine Government Requirement

Yes maybe.

But We literally filed cr1 months after married on a k1.

And they didnt say anything about single status on nbi & cenomar.

Just a NBI AKA with my last name. 

Thanks 

7 minutes ago, top_secret said:

 Was her civil status listed as married or single on the original NBI Clearance? 

Single

Her cenomar says no marriage record. 

25 minutes ago, top_secret said:

My understanding is that under Philippine law a married woman has an absolute right to use her husbands surname if she desires.  No legal process has to take place to change the name other than the marriage.  So even if her maiden name was used everywhere in the marriage certificate and everywhere else too, she still has an absolute legal right to use her husbands surname if she so desires.  So, proof of the marriage to Mr. Surname would constitute proof of the legal usage of the name Mrs. Surname without it being explicitly spelled out anywhere.  I imagine an Advisory on Marriage/CEMAR would be the most accepted proof of marriage in the Philippines.  Particularly in the case of an overseas wedding, assuming a Report of Marriage was previously filed so a Advisory on Marriage/CEMAR exists.  I'm guessing a Advisory on Marriage/CEMAR was asked for by the US also presumably that is no issue.  If you made it this far without filing a Repot of Marriage than the US marriage certificate would be your best proof.  The key being that proving the marriage exists proves the wife's absolute right (but not the obligation) to use the husbands surname in all legal maters.

They have not questioned the marriage.

We did not report it in the Philippines. 

They only asked for an AKA NBI with my last name.

Though she has never used it.

Thanks

30 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

 

You never completed a Report Of Marriage with the Philippines consulate after you got married?

 

Did you bring a CENOMAR or CEMAR  to the interview?

No We never reported the marriage in Philippines.

We filled cr1 soon after she went back to Philippines without AP.

Yes She brought cenomar.

Thats why I'm finding it odd they asked for another NBI.

Thanks

2 minutes ago, nelmagriffin said:

Hi,

Did you mean that you got married in the USA?

Yes correct. 

Married in the USA 

Marriage certificate has her maiden name. And she has not used my surname on any legal documents. 

1 minute ago, MarryMe987654 said:

I am looking at my NBI from April 2019. I am not seeing a place for NO AKA but I see that there is a field to put in husband's surname. 

And then on the NBI application website, there is a field for AKA/Other Name.

On the https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Supplements/Supplements_by_Post/MNL-Manila.html website, it says NBI with AKA should be requested 'even if the applicant has never used those names or spellings in regular life.'

 

I agree,dont want to go down a road of changing name. 

Was just just saying seems like that is what they were insinuating. 

At the interview she even said she hasn't used husbands name. And at nbi she brought the 221g letter saying what they wanted.

On the online website I also seen the field for AKA/other name.

We might try to do the online nbi. And see if that works.

Maybe the live nbi worker didnt understand what she was looking for. 

Thanks

1 minute ago, PIRuby said:

The applicant should request an NBI Clearance with an AKA including the applicant’s maiden name, birth certificate name, maiden name and any aliases or nicknames used, including different spellings that may appear on your other documents (birth certificate, marriage certificate, etc.) even if the applicant has never used those names or spellings in regular life.

 

Maybe we are wrong, but I could swear someone has been asked to redo it because of nickname 

Yes, I've seen where they have had mistakes in spelling,or previous marriages...ect.

In all my searches i haven't seen any where there is legitimately no alias/aka.

Its almost like we need to create one to satisfy the consolates requests. 

3 minutes ago, PIRuby said:

Wouldn't that go under alias? I use his name only socially but I think I need new NBI with it as an alias.

Thats what we thought.

But then they asked her for id with that aka alias.

Ir1 Philippines 

Received 221g at interview asking for new NBI with husband last name.

Even Though have never changed name, &/or used husbands last name on any legal documents.

Marriage certificate (married in USA)

Shows maiden name.

All our paperwork apply for visa shows maiden name.

When go to try to get new NBI with husbands name. They ask for id with that name.... in which dont have because never changed it.

Has anyone else seen this or heard of it?

If so...is there a solution?

And who might we contact to resolve this?

Thanks in advance, 

On 4/4/2020 at 1:52 AM, RM&NT said:

In my experience - including web application development - it can be an issue related to operating system.

Might be on to something here... as odd as it sounds, i couldn't upload anything using my desktop. ( i7-4770 w/windows 8 )

Switched to laptop ( i3-6100 w/windows 10) and everything went flawlessly.  Even the random log off stopped.

1 hour ago, Jmeleecur said:

their site is beyond frustrating! The only thing I can recommend, keep trying, it will eventually work. I tried several browsers also, chrome, though it's my default anyway, ultimately always ended up working.

Yeah definitely a bit fustrating.  

Just find it odd i haven't been able to upload 1 single document in the civil part of it.

Anyone else having a problem uploading civil documents. 

Tried many web browser,  and different formats for the scans.

Been trying for 2 days.

AOS and I4 went smoothly. 

1 hour ago, Toyenfad said:

Congratulations, which service center? 

Thanks,

Potomac 

1 minute ago, Hank_ said:

.. as the story unfolds.    

 

And the marriage certificate was the authorization for the name change.                         "Rule #1 - Never ASSuME      

 

Can't change the name now without starting over with a new I-130 petition.

 

As for the green card .. live with it for 3 years, or plan for a court name change process (check with state as to the process).   In 3 years when she is ready to file for Citizenship she can then complete a name change for FREE, and after that she can get all her U.S. documents in her married name.

 

 

Once your wife is in the States file ROM, then she can at least renew her Philippine passport in her married name (traditional).

 

Everything will sort out in time.     For now don't rock the boat with your visa adventure

Thanks again.

Appreciate your help.

16 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

Changing the name on the green card will not be simple.   As of this moment your wife "elected" to keep her maiden name after marriage.    

 

It sounds like the only reason you didn't complete the I-130 in her married name was because her married name wasn't shown on the marriage certificate (which it isn't in most states) so you thought she had to use her maiden name, as you are now talking of getting the name changed on the green card.       By not filing the I-130 in her married name ... You have created a few pot holes in the road if that is the case.   

 

 

 

 

That is exactly what happened. 

In Pennsylvania her maiden name is on marriage certificate. 

When i filled out the i130 i just assumed that because we didnt have anything except for our marriage certificate with maiden name and a passport with her maiden name,that it would confuse things during the process. 

At the end of the day what's most important is we get the spousal visa.

But if its easier to change name at this point...without jeopardizing Visa it might be better to change now.?

Can't even image the process to change name after.

12 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

In most states only the maiden name is listed on the marriage certificate.   Married name is just a matter of starting to use it on all documents after the wedding .. there isn't a document showing the name change.

 

Being married simply allows for a person to change their name if they desire.

 

 

Yes exactly. 

Only now we will need to change name on greencard and passport before that matter of 'starting to use it."

Thanks for the help.

Feel a bit more at ease about not needing ROM for CFO or at interview. 

2 hours ago, Hank_ said:

Doesn't need to be done if she is keeping her maiden name.  Filing ROM would only confuse things in that case.

2 hours ago, Hank_ said:

 

No filing ROM is not required.  If your wife is keeping her maiden name it is even less important.    If you decide at some point to file ROM, it must be done through the consulate representing the state where you were married.

 

I don't see CFO being an issue.  CFO-GCP will want a copy of the marriage certificate and will want to see a CENOMAR ( CEMAR )  and may want to keep a copy of both.

 

 

 

Thanks,

That is what my thoughts were.

While filling out the i130,

Because her maiden name is on marriage certificate and married in USA is the key factors. I didn't want to confuse things. 

And now we have to much time to think about the what if's 😁

So now if we go the route of less confusing at this stage, How hard do you think it will be to change her maiden name on greencard and passport down the road when she's here?

Thanks again for your input.