CaliCat

LOL.
 
So, the so-called president is proposing a law that already exists. He married two foreign citizens, so we'd expect he should know one thing or two about the I-864.
 
His next huuuuge piece of legislation will be to make it official that Americans should drive on the right side of the road! LOL. 
 
 

it's a good recipe to get the tax bill DOA.

The question at hand is whether Moore should get a pass. You seem to favor that position. Should Moore get a pass, because he is not the first one accused of sexual assault and rape? Does the fact that he is not the first in his class makes him suitable for the senate?
 

The question at hand is whether Moore should get a pass. You seem to favor that position. Should Moore get a pass, because he is not the first one accused of sexual assault and rape? Does the fact that he is not the first in his class makes him suitable for the senate?
 

It isn't about claiming moral high ground. It is about applying the right criteria to the issues at hand. If the democrats have a candidate for Senate next year in a similar situation, we can have the same discussion. Discussing the active issues right now are of more importance than talking about elections from 20 years ago. I actually think it is an interesting question to ask whether Clinton (Bill) would still be elected in today's world under the same circumstances from the 90's. But that would just be speculation.
 
I'm glad to see many Republicans in Congress taking a stand against Roy Moore. While I'm glad they are doing it now, it does make me wonder what change has occurred since 2016 when similar accusations didn't seem to bother them. 20 years is plenty of time to change. 1 year is pretty quick. Will be interesting to see if they remain consistent.

We both clearly agree on our opinion of Roy Moore, which is great.
 
Baton is still in the right's court though. They took it over last year.

(You're always good for a laugh)
 
Alright great, you can talk about what leaders did 20 years ago. We could also have a discussion about whether or not Clinton (Bill) would have been elected in 2016, but that would just be speculation and somewhat pointless.
 
I'd rather talk about what leaders are doing now, or even just within the last year. In the "relay race" of promoting sexual predators, the baton has VERY clearly been passed to the right. Did the left have it in the 90's? Sure, but they've clearly handed it over.

In reality though...
 
Bringing up Clinton is only a sorry excuse at distraction. It is trying to argue that actions now can be justified, despite being morally wrong, because they mirror actions taken 20 years ago.
 
Whether we were right or wrong when electing Clinton has really no bearing on what we should do now. We can't just say "well because we elected someone with a history of sexual misconduct in the past, we should be justified in doing it again".
 
If you wanted to use that argument there is a far far more recent example you could use from just last November...

It's been a long time for me...
 
What was known prior to the first Clinton campaign? What about the second?

Yeah, he's just worried about advertisers leaving him. Trenton R Garmon JD MA doesn't seem too smart thank goodness. Mispelled "it's" on first page of his letter.
 
The Simpsons:
 
Sorry we're late. Could we have the money now? Marge: The answer… is no. Fat Tony: I'm afraid I must insist. You see, my wife, she has been most vocal on the subject of the pretzel monies. "Where's the money? "When are you going to get the money?" "Why aren't you getting the money now?" And so on. So please, the money. Fat Tony: You have 24 hours to give us our money. And to show you we're serious… you have 12 hours.

I never said it was proof. We aren't talking about a mounting court case where proof needs to be confirmed beyond a burden of doubt.
 
A reasonable person would look at what is mounting against him, compare it to his "word", and realize that whether we have proof or not there is enough there to clearly determine that he needs to withdraw.

takes a great deal of effort to screw up a copy and paste 'thoughts and prayers' twitter response. give the man some credit.

LOL. I think we agree on a lot of things, and disagree on a whole bunch of other stuff; but if we don't lock horns on the stuff we disagree, how will we know what others are thinking?
 
 

it's a good recipe to get the tax bill DOA.

Hey is the sky falling because I am agreeing with you on something?

VWP needs to go away. It's fraud-prone and abused often.

Many, many people have also abused and continue to abuse the open border the VWP represents, and somehow we don't see anyone in congress calling for the end of it.

Are we kidnapping them? 

Are we kidnapping them? 

Are we kidnapping them? 

Weird. The OP is talking about a very legal form of immigration. Me thinks you are as confused and fact challenged as Dear Leader. Not sure the Mad Trucker in NY is exactly telling us much of anything in regards to how the overwhelming number of Diversity Lottery immigrants have chosen to live once here in the US and having come here legally have had a huge negative impact on the daily lives of the average American.

They doubt their own ears at his taped confession to sexual assault, and are willing to guzzle his cool-aid in a world of alternate-facts and distorted reality.

You can also observe the severity of the hissy fits Trump's adorants eagerly pitch whenever he's exposed for what he is. They doubt their own ears at his taped confession to sexual assault, and are willing to guzzle his cool-aid in a world of alternate-facts and distorted reality. I've said before that Jong Un has every reason to be jealous of our so-called president.

Or even voting for Trump even though he confessed to sexual assault and being sexual predator. Not only has neither party the moral high ground, their voters are just the same as well.  By allowing Moore to continue with his candidacy at this point only shows that the entire Clinton/Lewinsky story was just a big load of fake outrage and bovine manure.