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1 hour ago, SalishSea said:

You can try, but I doubt you would get a response.  I would definitely include everything that was returned to you, as well as any new evidence of time spent together in person.

 

From what you have told us, I don't see any glaring problems with your case; you have plenty of in-person time, you just need to show it to them at the interview.

will do.

Thank you.

2 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

 

The fact that you sent all of this info to the embassy without them asking for it kind of explains the response they gave you, in my mind anyway. They basically told you, "Bring the proof of your relationship to your interview". I don't see anything in there that is worrisome now. They were just giving you back your documents and basically telling you to wait until your interview day and the Consular Officer will request what they want to have, to satisfy them.  Update this thread after the interview and let us know! 

 

Thank you, and I will keep you all updated.

9 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You can ask but unlikely you would get that sort of response.

I will wait and see then 

Thank you so much. 

2 hours ago, carmel34 said:

Please clarify your "more than two years" response.  Were you living together for two years, living in the same city and seeing each other in person for two years, or did you make multiple trips to be together, in person, for a total of two years?  Based on the evidence you sent (photos, online chats, tickets), it seems more like a virtual relationship with one or more brief visits in person.  If you were in fact together in person for more than two years, you should have stronger evidence such as an apartment lease or other documentation like utility bills together.  For a K-1, in most countries, evidence of at least one in person meeting within the last two years is sufficient, but for Egypt they seem to be wanting more, maybe because of high fraud by others.  Is this an arranged marriage, and what were the circumstances of your meeting?  I agree with others, you should be fine with more evidence at the interview.  Good luck!

Yes, I have met her multiple times in 2024 and onetime recently in 2025, and we have plenty of pictures and evidence together.
I believe everything will be ok at least I am going to listen and get fully ready and prepared.

I have one question: should I confirm or ask the embassy via email what they want exactly? or this action is not necessary at this time.

Thank you, all. I do appreciate you.

 

36 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

The participant here perhaps didn't read the entire thread before posting.  Heed what jan22 says.

The question is:  Were all of the above part of the I-129F petition that Cairo got from USCIS, or did you somehow send these materials separately, yourself, directly to Cairo in advance of your interview?

Yes, I sent these materials separately, myself, directly to Cairo in advance of your interview.
They did not ask for it to be sent.
Still, though they could just return it without the 221g letter, right?
I mean, should I contact them or wait and see in July?

20 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

What Jan said makes a lot of sense- and is quite charitable if they are actually giving you a chance to strengthen your case prior to the interview.   That’s really unheard of.

 

My other thought was that it was in error.   Either way, gathering additional high quality (in-person) evidence prior to July is the right move.   Good luck!

Thank you.

Since no one has heard or experienced such circumstances before, should I question them through emails? Or even ask what we should prepare exactly since they sent us back all the pictures, chat, tickets, etc.?

I mean, was it wrong that we sent pictures before the interview?

17 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

In 9 years of reading VJ, I’ve never heard of a 221g being issued by a consulate prior to an interview.   Seems as if they are fixing to issue a NOID and return the petition to USCIS.

 

How much in-person time have you had?

More than two years.
Suppose they are fixing to issue NOID, why are they keeping the interview appointment?
Why did they return our pictures and ask us to have them at the interview?

6 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

It would be a helluva massive one, if so.

 

1.   It was your evidence and not someone else's, correct?

2.  Everything they returned had been in your I-129F petition, correct?

I hope it was a mistake.

1. Yes, it was my evidence with my fiancé printed on A3 size paper.
2. Yes, but we added more pictures and evidence, and they returned everything to us.

What is your advice far from collecting more evidence?
Is that normal that they sent us our pictures or evidence back?
Why are they keeping the interview then? And requesting to provide everything at the interview itself?
Should I contact them via email directly? Should I question everything?

1 minute ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

 

Yeah that's what got me.... never heard of a 221g being issued without an interview being conducted

Do you think it could be a mistake?
Last week, they sent me an email with our interview to be in the next few months.

Then today they sent us the form of 221g in white color. We have never had an interview yet.
They sent us our pictures back and asked us to bring them to the interview.

Our case still says "Ready". 

5 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Whatever else you submit, get to your fiancee several days early and take (and print) copious photos together, gather as many mutual receipts as possible, and everything else you can think of, and absolutely overwhelm them at the consular window with current evidence.  This does NOT sound good at all.

Why?
Are we the first ones to have this type of circumstance?

You never heard of it. Why does not sound good?  

3 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

 

Yes... I've heard that a 221g on white paper is a "Soft" refusal meaning it's easily corrected.

 

 

What proof did you guys submit?

Everything, such as photos, screen shots of chat, calls, videos, flight tickets, and prints out.
It was all printed on A3 paper, which is more larger size of paper.
They sent it all back to us.

12 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

Interesting.... This is the first I've heard of a 221g being issued outside the confines of an actual interview. Well, at least now you know you need to beef up your proof of relationship before the interview. 

Well, I am speechless because the relationship and the proof are so solid.

Did you hear about the paper color codes of the 221G?

20 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

Ok so was this just a review of the documents by the embassy prior to the interview?

 

Yes.
 

13 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

 

Then that is what they will need to overcome the 221g refusal and approve the visa... The appointment in July is for a follow-up interview? What did you submit for the first interview for proof of relationship?

My fiancé and I never had any in-person interviews; that's the first interview. we had submitted everything, and they sent us back the pictures and tickets for flights. 
They ask us to bring proof of relationship back at the first interview in July.

17 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

Can I assume that the writing at the bottom of the 221g form says you need to return with Proof of Relationship? Because that part is not circled in the pre-printed section

You are right.

Yes, it says in Arabic, bring proof of the relationship to the interview appointment.
They sent us back our pictures, and they did not circle any x boxes.

3 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

It's normal at any embassy where the Consular Officer does not have enough proof of relationship to approve the visa. Your only recourse is to gather all of the proof of a bona fide relationship you have and submit it.

Thank you - Even if we provided more than enough evidence regarding our relationship?

Hello all,

Did anyone receive any similar forms like us, which stated that our application was refused under A "221(g)" visa refusal, as in the attached file.
Even though we have submitted everything, they sent us back our pictures, and they mentioned that my fiancé needs to bring evidence of our relationship to the interview.
Is that a normal process at the Cairo, Egypt embassy?

Also, they scheduled our appointment for July. Can we ask the embassy to have an earlier appointment?

Thanks.

If I am a head of household and I have one of my parents on my house right now as a dependent should I disclose this on my Form I-134? 

On 1/30/2025 at 9:45 AM, MalloryCat said:

 

Thank you very much.

The case is "Ready" now. 

My fiance and I didn't receive any email about what to do next.
I mean we have not received anything yet from the embassy. Should I contact them directly or wait one or two more weeks? It is located in Egypt, do you know how long it may take them to contact me or if you have any time tracker for Egypt?

Regarding the documents, should I have copies, or do they need original documents such as birth certificates, etc?

 I got my email reply from NVC and they provided me with the case and invoice ID number. they stated the following:

"The National Visa Center (NVC) received your fiancé (e)’s/spouse’s approved I-129F petition from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). NVC will now forward the petition to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate in Cairo, Egypt. Please note that the transfer process can take several weeks. The U.S. Embassy or Consulate will contact your fiancé (e)/spouse when they are ready to process his or her petition.

Next steps:

Go to our website http://nvc.state.gov/k1 to learn how to apply for a K visa and prepare for the visa interview."

So my questions are:
1- Should I wait till the status changes from "Transit" to "Ready" before starting DS 160? or can I just complete the DS 160 and schedule the interview while I am in Transit?
2- How long may it take the embassy to change from "Transit" to "Ready".
3- Am I going to get a welcome letter to create an account on CEAC?
4- What should I do to be proactive with the case?

Thank you.

I got my email reply from NVC and they provided me with the case and invoice ID number. they stated the following:

"The National Visa Center (NVC) received your fiancé (e)’s/spouse’s approved I-129F petition from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). NVC will now forward the petition to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate in Cairo, Egypt. Please note that the transfer process can take several weeks. The U.S. Embassy or Consulate will contact your fiancé (e)/spouse when they are ready to process his or her petition.

Next steps:

Go to our website http://nvc.state.gov/k1 to learn how to apply for a K visa and prepare for the visa interview."

So my questions are:
1- Should I wait till the status changes from "Transit" to "Ready" before starting DS 160? or can I just complete the DS 160 and schedule the interview while I am in Transit?
2- How long may it take the embassy to change from "Transit" to "Ready".
3- Am I going to get a welcome letter to create an account on CEAC?
4- What should I do to be proactive with the case?

Thank you.

On 2/10/2023 at 7:48 AM, Mahmir said:

This is our timeline at the Cairo embassy from start to finish 

I just got an email stating that NVC sent my case to the embassy in Egypt - I checked and am in transit now.
I did not received packet 3 yet, should I start work on the DS 160 and book an appointment or should I wait till "ready"?

17 hours ago, Gary Rich said:

No.. we did not. She was able to get her new passport. she has been here since May 2024, and we are waiting on her GC, she has her EAD card and Advance parole. she is adjusting well.

Thank you!

On 8/2/2023 at 7:13 AM, Gary Rich said:

I'm in a similar situation. My fiancee's passport expired in April ( she has been waiting since for her new one ) I'm almost done with the DS160.but my case is in transit and it can be ready at a moment's notice. I should I use the old passport information on the DS160, and when it's time for her interview she could just bring both the old passport and also the new one. she inform me this morning that she could have the new one in 2 weeks..

We have a similar situation, did you guys have any problem?

27 minutes ago, ShawnSpiker said:

Can my Faince renew her passport while our case is in Transit status?
We are about to start the DS160 and get ready for the interview.
Her passport will expire in a year or so.
Is it safe to renew it or just wait for the new passport will have a different passport number?

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