Nagishkaw

I am talking about the hypocrites who spit nails at illegals in general yet when given the opportunity in this thread to talk to one who was illegal for over a decade - no one bites. So im my opinion the hate filled diatribes we often see here are just empty rants. You know - internet grandstanding.

So I am left wondering where all the chest-beating-mouth-breathing-illegal-screaming peeps are here who talk up a good game, yet when are presented with someone who has been living here illegally for more than a decade - not a peep is made. Me thinks there is just a lot of empty hateful rhetoric spewing pu$$ies round these parts.

I voted for Barry and Michelle, Tweedle dumb and Tweedle dumber.

I voted for Barry and Michelle, Tweedle dumb and Tweedle dumber.

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You'd want to keep your husband happy and satisfied not out of guilt but because you honour your husband. You have heard of faking it, right....even if 'it's the furthest thing from her mind'? She may be tired, but not terminal.

How does it feel to have your own gallstone's posting each day? You are truly a special guy.

His post.

This message is for giving_up, I would like to talk to you.... can you please reply to my email bebzgurl29@yahoo.com, I hope to hear from you soon.
I will wait your reply there.... take care always and your baby, be strong! I know it's hard, but you can do it!
Please reply okay........

for someone thats so familiar with them why dont you draw the parallels for us unwashed masses not worthy of your ivory tower

and lets not forget the free health care they will get

Keep waiting. Job creation is only given lip service as a priority in this administration. We are on to amnesty as the next elusive right that must be fulfilled. Jobs aren't a right, btw. In fact, Pelosi believes we should quit our jobs and become artistes.

Nice post, 5.

Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self-insure!!
Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you. You have no choice!
Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.
Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances & a 'National ID Health card' will be issued! (Papers please!)
Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer. (Time for more cash and carry)
Page 65 Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).
Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the 'Exchange.'
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans -- The Govt will ration your health care!
Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. (Translation: illegal aliens.)
Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP members - your health care WILL be rationed!)
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.)
Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt monopoly.
Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.
Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. (NO choice!)
Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees ANDtheir families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as employers will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to cover such a huge expense.)
Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last comment in parenthesis.)
Page 150 Lines 9-13: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) (Like always)
Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have access to ALL Americans' finances and personal records. (I guess so they can 'deduct' their fees)
Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!) ( a 'fee' instead)
Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)
Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to tell me that's not Socialism!)
Page 253 Line 10-18: The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time, profession, judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.)
Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for "private" HC industries.
Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions).
Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -- the Govt will penalize you.
Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells doctors what and how much they can own!)
Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is mandating that hospitals cannot expand.)
Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?)
Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: The Govt mandates establishment of=2 outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want -- rationing.)
Page 341 Lines 3-9: The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan)
Page 354 Sec 1177: The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs people!' Unbelievable!
Page 379 Sec 1191: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?)
Page 425 Lines 4-12: The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult." (Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.)
Page 425 Lines 17-19: The Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!)
Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: The Govt provides an "approved" list of end-of-life resources; guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted suicide.')(Sounds like Soylent Green to me.)
Page 427 Lines 15-24: The Govt mandates a program for orders on "end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)
Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.
Page 429 Lines 10-12: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)
Page 429 Lines 13-25: The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting paid for THAT job!)
Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end-of-life! (Again -- no choice!)
Page 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit Organizations. (Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!)
Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy. (Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)
Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.

This is why many people call it a terrible law for the American people. I have done some research of whats in it also. Its amazing some of the stuff that it addresses.
Its also why it took arm twisting to get the votes. Its too bad some people who automatically support it because of the 5 minute "talking points" they see on the wed or TV dont read thru it with an open mind. If they are honest with themselves they will see it for what it is. But they wont because its about idealogy instead of what the law does.
As you can see you will get few responses because they dont want to see the truth.

Well, I am very grateful that I went through the immigration process so that I was able to see the US government as the hole of inefficiency and corruption that it really is.
As far as other people breaking the law, an oath to a scoundrel is meaningless.

There are some VJers who are very much concerned with the welfare of the American nation. That is commendable. However, there are also people (like me) who can't care much about the government, politics and its spokes.
This may not be a very simple request or suggestion but maybe we can divide the OT into half the way there are areas for Regional Discussion. One part of the OT is for anything political such as undying issues about health care, the hot Pelosi, the controversial Senate, Beck's idiocy and more. On the other hand, fun stuff will consist the lighter separate portion of OT like various games, C4C, and most Spooky threads.
Support from other members and the Ewok's implementation will be appreciated.

You have my unwavering support in this undertaking. No matter which end of the political spectrum you prefer, there is a need for those of us who eschew political discussion to have a space devoid of divisiveness and rancor. I choose not to think about the machinations of the political process and I am certain that there are others like me who do not wish to be drawn into such matters.

Pot meet kettle. So was your blatant name calling.

Exactly.

Pot meet kettle. So was your blatant name calling.

Talking to the toaster, I see.

you are so dispicable... Have yourself a great day lol

How so? nit-picking proves nothing...

Exactly.