My Oath Ceremony rant

[RomanVT 0]

So I received my Oath Ceremony letter today in the mail.

"You are hereby notified to appear for a Naturalization Oath Ceremony on: Saturday, July 4 2009"

Well whoopty-doo. Apparently the USCIS doesn't recognize the 4th (aka America's birthday) as a holiday where people may have plans.... like..... let's say.... go out of town? It's not really a big deal as I will just have them reschedule me but I'm anxious to get this over with. Like really, who schedules anything like this on the 4th?

Maybe I'm over-reacting......................

Maybe NOT!!!

Have a feeling it will be a few months before they re-schedule me. ARgghhhhh how annoying.

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[Old Dominion 26]

July 4th, being our Independence Day, is a logical time to have a large and festive naturalization event. We are a nation created by immigrants.

[JeanneVictoria 55]

So I received my Oath Ceremony letter today in the mail.

"You are hereby notified to appear for a Naturalization Oath Ceremony on: Saturday, July 4 2009"

Well whoopty-doo. Apparently the USCIS doesn't recognize the 4th (aka America's birthday) as a holiday where people may have plans.... like..... let's say.... go out of town? It's not really a big deal as I will just have them reschedule me but I'm anxious to get this over with. Like really, who schedules anything like this on the 4th?

Maybe I'm over-reacting......................

Maybe NOT!!!

Have a feeling it will be a few months before they re-schedule me. ARgghhhhh how annoying.

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Can't believe you are acting like this! Be happy...very happy you will become a citizen. If not then don't go to your swearing in. Citizenship is not annoying.

[KromiX 1]

Well I agree with you, that's a bad day for it, regardless of it having to do with immigration or not.......

If they are gonna do it July 4th, give people months notice or don't do it at all. People have lives and schedule vacations and outings on days like the 4th of July......

To the two other posters Don't get so "overwhelmed with the joy of being a US Citizen" that its impossible to see the 4th of july could be a bad day for this for MANY people, atleast for me, my life doesn't stop during the naturalization process........ I for one agree with the O.P, bad day to schedule it.

Shoot, I didn't even know they schedule Oaths on Saturdays either............

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

Can't think of a better day than July 4th . . . independence day. It's like winning the lottery!

[jsnearline 2]

Sorry, but I don't think your rant is going to garner much sympathy for your plight here on VJ. Do you know how many immigrants would be proud, honored and excited to be sworn in on as a citizen on July 4th? I really can't believe how ungrateful you are about this opportunity. My wife and I were really hoping for a 4th of July Oath, but it's not going to happen.

Maybe they should send your case to the end of the line for your Oath after you reschedule, seeing as how it obviously means so much to you...

Edited June 24, 2009 by jsnearline

[KromiX 1]

Sorry, but I don't think your rant is going to garner much sympathy for your plight here on VJ. Do you know how many immigrants would be proud, honored and excited to be sworn in on as a citizen on July 4th? I really can't believe how ungrateful you are about this opportunity. My wife and I were really hoping for a 4th of July Oath, but it's not going to happen.

Maybe they should send your case to the end of the line for your Oath after you reschedule, seeing as how it obviously means so much to you...

Yea lets all attack the guy and wish his naturalization take years longer cause he has plans on a long weekend/national weekend and actually made plans and continues his life instead of sitting at home with his fingers crossed in a dark room praying he gets an Oath interview on the 4th of July......

Pardon him for taking a trip on a holiday, thats not normal in the U.S..... He's such an unappreciative a-hole and deserves the full brunt of the USCIS. He should drop everything he's doing and cancel his trip to be "proud and lucky" he got a 4th of July Oath date... /sigh

Edited June 24, 2009 by KromiX

[jsnearline 2]

There's no problem with taking trips on holidays, but if you're naturalizing, you should know you run the risk of having an interview or an Oath ceremony interupt your plan. After all, USCIS does not force you to naturalize and they don't require you to do it at any given time. You're in total control of when you choose to file your application.

If you file for naturalization, then plan a trip and your N-400 interview or Oath ends up impacting your trip plans, then you are as much to blame for it as USCIS is. Go ahead and reschedule the Oath, but please don't whine about it to people who would give a lot to have that chance.

Edited June 24, 2009 by jsnearline

[KromiX 1]

There's no problem with taking trips on holidays, but if you're naturalizing, you should know you run the risk of having an interview or an Oath ceremony interupt your plan. After all, USCIS does not force you to naturalize and they don't require you to do it at any given time. You're in total control of when you choose to file your application.

If you file for naturalization, then plan a trip and your N-400 interview or Oath ends up impacting your trip plans, then you are as much to blame for it as USCIS is. Go ahead and reschedule the Oath, but please don't whine about it to people who would give a lot to have that chance.

They don't force you to naturalize just as much as they don't force you to take the day the give you or restart the application, they understand people have lives and don't expect you to stop yours for 6 months - a year during the process.

In that light, to wish upon him a long process due to him not wanting the 'best day to naturalize' is ridiculous.

[jsnearline 2]

my life doesn't stop during the naturalization process........ I

No... You just post stuff on VJ asking how you can jump the line and get an expedited interview so you can make an Oath ceremony in June.

[jsnearline 2]

I don't really wish his application is delayed indefinitely... I just had a bad reaction to his post. He has the right to reschedule. I just don't think he should go on VJ ranting about it like it's all USCIS fault and expecting lots of sympathy.

[KromiX 1]

I ask the questions like how to expedite the process, because this is a forum, and forums are a place to share knowledge amongst your peers.

And my personal reason, is because I am going out of the country in September and would like to be a U.S Citizen w/ a U.S passport by then, for 2 reasons, VISA/Entry reasons and to not be scheduled while I'm not here.

That doesn't make me a hypocrite, I want to be a U.S citizen as much as the next guy, I feel like I already am honestly and never felt different. My family siblings and step-dad is, everyone but my mother and I, and I have lived here since I was 2 years old and never left the country, and am a big-time patriot/follower of politics and keep current and voice opinions daily, and can't wait to vote.... But that def doesn't mean my life needs to stop for the USCIS nor do they expect you to, since they allow reschedules. I'd still go on my trip if I didn't make the deadline, and I'd still reschedule my Oath/Interview if I had plans especially on the 4th of July, I just look for expedition to have a better experience in my travel.

That's the beauty of this country, everyone can have their own opinion, and in mine, I rather celebrate the 4th of July with a barbecue with family and fireworks and a good ole time honoring the people who got us to where we are as a nation, and more importantly, look ahead into getting out of this mess we are in and celebrate the relentless spirits of Americans. Instead of celebrating it in a room with people I don't know and govt workers who don't REALLY care or will remember you and are there to get paid time and a half for working a holiday. If I could I'd skip the Oath and just get my interview done and become a U.S Citizen. I don't need a ceremony to confirm anything, in MY opinion, it's a waste of time. I respect you guys who actually look forward to and enjoy it, but I could careless.

Edited June 24, 2009 by KromiX

[KromiX 1]

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It means nothing to me, and will enjoy the interview more than the Oath.. Laughing at the ridiculously easy questions and ridiculous sentences you have to read and write, can't beat that!

P.S I also think they should make the test ten-fold harder, it's just ridiculous in my opinion. AND they should require a test each time your going to vote, real easy questions, like, Who is the Democratic Candidate? Who is the Republican Candidate?. Alot of the American Entitlement Culture has dug us in a deep hole, and it is reflected in the kind of people that turned out to vote this last round because they saw a cool guy on MTV that was running for 'prez' and it was the in thing to wear trendy HOPE shirts and say "Yes we Can", just like it was kewlz to wear CHE GUEVARA shirts when no-1 had any idea who he was and was wearing the guy on their shirt.

Edited June 24, 2009 by KromiX

[jsnearline 2]

Do you think the fact that you have lived here since you were two years old influences the value(or lack of) that you associate with a July 4th Oath? For someone in your position, naturalizing could be pretty much the icing on the cake since you've reaped most of the benefits of living in the US your whole life. For others, like my wife, who has dreamed of coming to the US all her life, it's a bigger deal and means more to her.

I think that natural born citizens should have to pass the same naturalization test that immigrants do at some point. Perhaps they should have to take the test when they first register to vote. It's really embarrasing that Americans know so little about their country.

Edited June 24, 2009 by jsnearline

[KromiX 1]

The fact that you have lived here since you were two years old probably influences the value you place (or not) on a July 4th Oath. For you, naturalizing is pretty much the icing on the cake since you've reaped most of the benefits of living in the US your whole life. For others, like my wife, who has dreamed of coming to the US all her life, it's a bigger deal and means more to her.

I think that natural born citizens should have to pass the same naturalization test that immigrants do at some point. Perhaps they should have to take the test when they first register to vote. It's really embarrasing that Americans know so little about their country.

I agree with you, however thats not feasible, what do you do with the people that don't pass? Send them to Somalia?

I think at the very LEAST they shouldn't be allowed to vote and destroy our country if they can't figure out what the two major political parties are in the U.S...