Can Diversity Destroy Us?

[SteveLaura 0]

It's entirely possible that the 'United States' will split into different nations. Some may welcome this, some may not. The US is an extraordinarily large area to attempt to unify, and to continue to do so for some feeling of tradition may seem quaint and old-fashioned in the future.

Have we then learned nothing from the Civil War?

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

If certain areas of the country decided that they wanted to become independent, for whatever reason, what would be the arguments against it?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It's entirely possible that the 'United States' will split into different nations. Some may welcome this, some may not. The US is an extraordinarily large area to attempt to unify, and to continue to do so for some feeling of tradition may seem quaint and old-fashioned in the future.

Have we then learned nothing from the Civil War?

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

If certain areas of the country decided that they wanted to become independent, for whatever reason, what would be the arguments against it?

We'll beat the ####### out of you if you try.

That argument has precedent. See Civil War for details.

Edited December 4, 2007 by VJ Troll

[*JG* 2]

It's entirely possible that the 'United States' will split into different nations. Some may welcome this, some may not. The US is an extraordinarily large area to attempt to unify, and to continue to do so for some feeling of tradition may seem quaint and old-fashioned in the future.

Have we then learned nothing from the Civil War?

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

If certain areas of the country decided that they wanted to become independent, for whatever reason, what would be the arguments against it?

Perhaps you should then look up the Civil War and get an idea.

[payxibka 10,048]

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

Nothing at all about the civil war that occured around 1776?

Edited December 4, 2007 by fwaguy

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

Nothing at all about the civil war that occured around 1776?

Boo-yah!

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

It's entirely possible that the 'United States' will split into different nations. Some may welcome this, some may not. The US is an extraordinarily large area to attempt to unify, and to continue to do so for some feeling of tradition may seem quaint and old-fashioned in the future.

Have we then learned nothing from the Civil War?

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

If certain areas of the country decided that they wanted to become independent, for whatever reason, what would be the arguments against it?

this should be good

[Caladan 19]

By 1960, we were almost 90 percent European and more than 90 percent Christian -- of one nationality, American, one language, English, and one culture.

This country is a much better place today than it was in 1960.

Yup. It's not easy to run a diverse society, but it seems to kick ### pretty well. Pat's also playing fast and loose with history with his numbers. In 1960, people still saw the society as diverse -- there were all these Catholics running around, and everyone knows that real Americans are Protestants. Seriously, it was a worry that Kennedy wasn't American enough to be President. Earlier newspaper articles decry good Protestant America being degraded by all these Papist Irish and Italians. So it's a little revisionist to paint America as this 90% unified culture. At the time, they didn't see themselves as 90% unified.

What's changed? People assimilated a little and society changed with it, but not in a bad way. I was reading something a couple weeks ago -- was it here? -- an old baseball color piece that lauded Joe Dimaggio as really American! No, really! He's not just an Italian hero.... He's really American He prefers Chinese food to spaghetti!

Anyone here still think that spaghetti is a scary ethnic dish, the eating of which indicates that someone isn't really American?

[Nessa 23]

in the eyes of God we're all the same

[SteveLaura 0]

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

Nothing at all about the civil war that occured around 1776?

At my school? No. We were taught English history from Henry VII to Charles I, and European history.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Besides, Pat is a Papist irish mic bastid himself.

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

Nothing at all about the civil war that occured around 1776?

At my school? No. We were taught English history from Henry VII to Charles I, and European history.

No history of colonialism at all?

[SteveLaura 0]

Perhaps you should then look up the Civil War and get an idea.

At some point I probably will. If only to help with my kid's homework.

Is it some kind of secret?

[*JG* 2]

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

Nothing at all about the civil war that occured around 1776?

Boo-yah!

Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[payxibka 10,048]

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

Nothing at all about the civil war that occured around 1776?

At my school? No. We were taught English history from Henry VII to Charles I, and European history.

Apparently then no important British history since 1625 then....

[*JG* 2]

Besides, Pat is a Papist irish mic bastid himself.

Disclosure: I learnt nothing about the Civil War at my UK school.

Nothing at all about the civil war that occured around 1776?

At my school? No. We were taught English history from Henry VII to Charles I, and European history.

No history of colonialism at all?

I would have to wonder, too, if the subject was not broached.

[Caladan 19]

Ooh, I thought of another example. Anyone see The Good Shepherd? There's a scene where Damon's character explains that his WASPy types are the real Americans and "everyone else is just visiting." Not exactly 90% unity.