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Hi my fiancee had her K1 visa interview 70 days ago (June 2025) and was refused the visa during the interview (was handed an 221g letter). The consulate officer suspected we are married since we had a few engagement ceremonies... we didn't do a full marriage ceremony, only an engagement ceremony but it seemed like the officer was fixated on us having been married.

 

Our case status was immediately updated to Refused on the NVC Case status website, but as I understand it this is the same as Administrative Processing (our physical letter also claims the status will be considered Refused until processing is complete).

 

We are struggling coping together on what to do next - it feels heartbreaking to have waiting almost a year to get the K1 interview and then have it stuck in admin processing. We are not sure whether we should just get a registered marriage at this point and apply for CR1 or continue waiting for a final decision on our K1. 

 

Our 221g letter specifies no next steps on our end - it mentions the consulate will contact us once the admin processing is complete. The consulate officer also didn't say we have to submit anything -it seems the officer just handed back my fiancee's passport along with the 221g letter and said we have to read the letter. We've reached out to the embassy a couple times to get an update but we just get told to wait until admin processing is complete. Everyday seems like the worst day ever for both my fiancee and I.

 

Anyone have any recommendations on what we should do in this case? I've tried reaching out to a representative/senator but they have been mostly useless (mostly not getting responses). Also does anyone know what are the potential final status decisions after Refused for our case (i.e. what would the status change to in the case of an approval or rejection).

Edited by londoner2025
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Marriage will not solve the Administrative Process delay for a CR-1.  Marriage would force you to start from scratch again.

1 hour ago, londoner2025 said:

Our 221g letter specifies no next steps on our end -

What is your fiance's country of origin?

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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8 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Marriage will not solve the Administrative Process delay for a CR-1.  Marriage would force you to start from scratch again.

What is your fiance's country of origin?

My fiancee is from India. To clarify, we have applied for K1 visa (fiancee visa)... not CR1

Edited by londoner2025
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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How did they know about the engagement ceremonies?

 

I suppose a WoM but then a K1 can expire.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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9 minutes ago, londoner2025 said:

My fiancee is from India. To clarify, we have applied for K1 visa (fiancee visa)... not CR1

I know. My point is that, you might face another round of extended AP with a CR-1.  However, after re-reading your first post, I think it is clear that the issue is the ceremony.  That is something we always advise members to avoid.  

I completely understand your frustration because there is a real possibility that the K-1 will be denied......due to being too married for a K-1.  

I think you will get a decision soon.  I would probably wait another couple of months before making a final decision to marry.  Or, as @Boiler said, you could sue them for a decision (which could go either way). Good luck.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

How did they know about the engagement ceremonies?

 

I suppose a WoM but then a K1 can expire.

 

Can you elaborate on this? If we file a WoM, the consulate is required to make a decision within 30 days right? Can you clarify what you mean by "K1 expiring"? The officer asked about what ceremonies we had.

Edited by londoner2025
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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1 minute ago, londoner2025 said:

 

Can you elaborate on this? If we file a WoM, the US is required to make a decision within 30 days right? Can you clarify what you mean by "K1 expiring"? The officer asked about what ceremonies we had.

An approved I-129F expires after 4 months.  The consulate has the discretion to extend them for 4 month increments up to a year.  Sometimes, they just let them expire. There is no appeal. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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5 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I know. My point is that, you might face another round of extended AP with a CR-1.  However, after re-reading your first post, I think it is clear that the issue is the ceremony.  That is something we always advise members to avoid.  

I completely understand your frustration because there is a real possibility that the K-1 will be denied......due to being too married for a K-1.  

I think you will get a decision soon.  I would probably wait another couple of months before making a final decision to marry.  Or, as @Boiler said, you could sue them for a decision (which could go either way). Good luck.

 

 

Thanks - just trying to understand a bit more... can you elaborate on why you predict the decision will come soon? have you seen a case similar to this? How long do people get stuck in admin processing for a situation similar to ours?
 

Also should we file the WoM 30 days prior to getting married just so we can see the end of the K1 visa before officially starting from scratch?

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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K1 has many issues including being required to be renewed which Consulates usually do automatically 

 

No 30 days for WoM

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

An approved I-129F expires after 4 months.  The consulate has the discretion to extend them for 4 month increments up to a year.  Sometimes, they just let them expire. There is no appeal. 

 

 

Oh - so if our case is stuck in admin processing 1 year after the i-129f approval, is there no chance of seeing it approved? Would our only option be to start from scratch?

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Just now, londoner2025 said:

 

 

Thanks - just trying to understand a bit more... can you elaborate on why you predict the decision will come soon? have you seen a case similar to this? How long do people get stuck in admin processing for a situation similar to ours?
 

I think the issue causing the extended Administrative Processing is the ceremony.  Seems, to me, it shouldn't take much longer to make a decision. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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2 minutes ago, londoner2025 said:

 

 

Oh - so if our case is stuck in admin processing 1 year after the i-129f approval, is there no chance of seeing it approved? Would our only option be to start from scratch?

I doubt it will be in AP for a year.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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You just marry and pull the I  129f if that is the way you want to go

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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This would be a tough decision for me.  The Consulate's decision could go either way......50/50, imho.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

 
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