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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Frankjavir said:

With all due respect, a green card is a legal presence document. 

So is a US birth certificate and a US passport.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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4 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

So is a US birth certificate and a US passport.

The birth certificate does not apply in this topic, the US passport yes, but, if before you become a US Citizen you have a green card that expires in 6 months, then you become a US Citizen and obtain a US Passporth that does not automatically update your driver's license record and your license will expire in 6 months.

Citizenship
Event Date
Service Center : Online
CIS Office : Oakland Park FL
Date Filed : 2025-01-18
NOA Date : 2025-01-18
Bio. Appt. : 2025-01-18
Interview Date : 2025-07-28
Approved : Yes
Oath Ceremony : 2025-08-01
Comments : 6 months between NOA and Interview
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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2 minutes ago, Frankjavir said:

With all due respect, a green card is a legal presence document. 

The site literally says " those with temporary legal status, such as recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) or Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and holders of a valid student or employment visa. For Californians with temporary legal status, their REAL ID DL/ID card will expire on the same date as their U.S. legal presence document, and they can receive a new card with a documented extension of their legal status.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Just now, Frankjavir said:

The birth certificate does not apply in this topic, the US passport yes, but, if before you become a US Citizen you have a green card that expires in 6 months, then you become a US Citizen and obtain a US Passporth that does not automatically update your driver's license record and your license will expire in 6 months.

Not in my wife's case.  Her Green Card expired 2 years from entry, yet her Texas driver's license expiration was 6 years....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

The site literally says " those with temporary legal status, such as recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) or Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and holders of a valid student or employment visa. For Californians with temporary legal status, their REAL ID DL/ID card will expire on the same date as their U.S. legal presence document, and they can receive a new card with a documented extension of their legal status.

And as we know, LPR status isn't temporary, even conditional.

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Hi everyone,

Looking for advice or shared experiences related to the Detroit field office.

 

My dad had his N-400 interview on Monday, July 22, 2025. He disclosed that he owes taxes but provided proof of an IRS payment plan that starts in September. He also submitted all required documentation. At the end of the interview, the officer said she needed to consult with her supervisor, and no decision was made.

 

Now here’s the strange part — my mom had her interview the very next day, July 23, with the same tax situation and identical documents, plus a medical waiver (Form N-648) — and she was approved immediately. Her oath ceremony is scheduled for August 7.

 

So despite her case being arguably more complex, it was approved on the spot, while my dad's was not. Has anyone had something similar happen — especially where one spouse is approved and the other is delayed due to “supervisor review”? How long did it take for a decision or oath letter to come through?

Appreciate any insights. Thanks!

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Posted
12 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

A Green Card holder is not a temporary visitor. 

"A temporary visitor is anyone who is not a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, lawful permanent resident, refugee or asylee."

For the State of Texas, a green card holder it is a temporary visitor. go to their website and click the link I encircled in red.

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Citizenship
Event Date
Service Center : Online
CIS Office : Oakland Park FL
Date Filed : 2025-01-18
NOA Date : 2025-01-18
Bio. Appt. : 2025-01-18
Interview Date : 2025-07-28
Approved : Yes
Oath Ceremony : 2025-08-01
Comments : 6 months between NOA and Interview
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Frankjavir said:

For the State of Texas, a green card holder it is a temporary visitor

No, not true at all.  The site LITERALLY says "A temporary visitor is anyone who is not a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, lawful permanent resident, refugee or asylee."

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Frankjavir said:

and click the link I encircled in red.

Those are the requirements for ANYONE to receive a Driver's License......anyone.  I, as a US citizen, had to meet those same requirements.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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9 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

No, not true.  The site LITERALLY says "A temporary visitor is anyone who is not a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, lawful permanent resident, refugee or asylee."

You are right, I misread that part, but the fact is the drivers license expiration date is the expiartion date of your green card if you don't go and update your status in your DL record. Read this: https://www.dps.texas.gov/internetforms/Forms/DL-62.pdf

Citizenship
Event Date
Service Center : Online
CIS Office : Oakland Park FL
Date Filed : 2025-01-18
NOA Date : 2025-01-18
Bio. Appt. : 2025-01-18
Interview Date : 2025-07-28
Approved : Yes
Oath Ceremony : 2025-08-01
Comments : 6 months between NOA and Interview
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Frankjavir said:

the drivers license expiration date is the expiartion date of your green card if you don't go and update your status in your DL record.

As I said, that was not the case for my wife.  I also know of others here in Texas who also received full 6 or 8 year driver's licenses with a 2 year Green card.  

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

As I said, that was not the case for my wife.  I also know of others here in Texas who also received full 6 or 8 year driver's licenses with a 2 year Green card.

I was not addressing your wife's specific case and I believe it happened as you described, my point is that in the past, even when Real ID popped up but was not enforced in all states as it is after March 2025, the driver's license expiration date WAS NOT married to the expiration date of the temporary or green card, NOW IT IS.

All new US citizens should update their new citizen status in their drivers record with their respective driver's license office, it will enable to renew online in many states and extend 10 more years.

I propose a survey here about the expiration date of their green card vs driver's license.

Edited by Frankjavir
Citizenship
Event Date
Service Center : Online
CIS Office : Oakland Park FL
Date Filed : 2025-01-18
NOA Date : 2025-01-18
Bio. Appt. : 2025-01-18
Interview Date : 2025-07-28
Approved : Yes
Oath Ceremony : 2025-08-01
Comments : 6 months between NOA and Interview
Posted
14 hours ago, OldUser said:

Which state are you from? In many states LPR and US citizen licenses have no difference.

I'm in Texas, with a "real ID" I got a few months ago, expiration of 2033. I will more than likely still reach out to ask questions, in the passport process waiting for my certificate to come back, so I can go to the social security office next 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Posted
1 hour ago, OldUser said:

And as we know, LPR status isn't temporary, even conditional.

I totally agree with you, a Legal Permanent Resident is not temporary and only ends when revoked by a judge but this problem was created some where around 2015 when an expifration date was added to the GREEN CARD, go figures it!!! My green card back in the 80's did not have an expiration date and was not green, it was kind of pink.

Citizenship
Event Date
Service Center : Online
CIS Office : Oakland Park FL
Date Filed : 2025-01-18
NOA Date : 2025-01-18
Bio. Appt. : 2025-01-18
Interview Date : 2025-07-28
Approved : Yes
Oath Ceremony : 2025-08-01
Comments : 6 months between NOA and Interview
Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Posted
10 minutes ago, Dianalorena said:

I'm in Texas, with a "real ID" I got a few months ago, expiration of 2033. I will more than likely still reach out to ask questions, in the passport process waiting for my certificate to come back, so I can go to the social security office next 

Can you please look at the expiration date of your Green Card and compare it with your driver's license? You may have a still a picture of it. 

Citizenship
Event Date
Service Center : Online
CIS Office : Oakland Park FL
Date Filed : 2025-01-18
NOA Date : 2025-01-18
Bio. Appt. : 2025-01-18
Interview Date : 2025-07-28
Approved : Yes
Oath Ceremony : 2025-08-01
Comments : 6 months between NOA and Interview
 
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