NVC question about a message note...

[MaegZ0322 29]

Our case is currently at the NVC stage.  My mom is sponsoring my husband.  She is single and retired.  She earns about $32,000 a year and a heafty savings account that has grown since it was opened.  I'm currently a student and will finish in about 5 months so no income on my side.  She also put the value of her house down.  So we submitted all my tax info and my I864 and she completed hers and we sent 3 years of tax transcripts and her retirement and pension statements that she get at tax time.  I also submitted her savings account over the years that shows it has been there for a good while and growth. My husband has inherited 50% of his parents house that is currently for sale so should get about $100g's for his share.  He plans on taking evidence when he get his interview.

 

So message from NVC says they have accepted and approved our case.  They are submitting docs to his local embassy for setting up his interview.  It does say Documentarily Qualified.  Then there is a message note that says;

 The income reported as stated on form I-864, I-864A is insufficient to overcome the public charge grounds of inadmissibility for visa issuance. To avoid delays, an additional Affidavit of Support Form I-864 from a joint sponsor may be submitted. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos and https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p. A consular officer will decide if you meet these requirements at the time of the interview. Note: You, as the sponsor, and any other sponsors household members and joint sponsors, must provide updated or additional evidence for the applicant to present at the time of their interview such as: * Other income * Assets * Proof of current employment Note: You submitted documentation to the National Visa Center through the Consular Electronic Application Center CEAC. You can continue to upload documents to CEAC up until the date of your visa interview

 

How should I interpret this?  I do have someone willing to sponsor but my mum is $7000 over.  I know that isn't much but it's still over.   Could it be it's referring to my i864 or both mine and my mums?  Would it be best to wait till the interview and then give the documents for joint sponsor if needed?  If so, can my husband just print it all out to give to them?  I'm in the states and he is in the UK.  Any insight or advice, I would be so thankful.  We are so happy to be at this stage, I just want to make sure I understand everything.  I was hoping my mom's income and savings with our house sale money would have been enough but still thankful to be at this stage.

 

 

[Lil bear 4,495]

2 minutes ago, MaegZ0322 said:

Our case is currently at the NVC stage.  My mom is sponsoring my husband.  She is single and retired.  She earns about $32,000 a year and a heafty savings account that has grown since it was opened.  I'm currently a student and will finish in about 5 months so no income on my side.  She also put the value of her house down.  So we submitted all my tax info and my I864 and she completed hers and we sent 3 years of tax transcripts and her retirement and pension statements that she get at tax time.  I also submitted her savings account over the years that shows it has been there for a good while and growth. My husband has inherited 50% of his parents house that is currently for sale so should get about $100g's for his share.  He plans on taking evidence when he get his interview.

 

So message from NVC says they have accepted and approved our case.  They are submitting docs to his local embassy for setting up his interview.  It does say Documentarily Qualified.  Then there is a message note that says;

 The income reported as stated on form I-864, I-864A is insufficient to overcome the public charge grounds of inadmissibility for visa issuance. To avoid delays, an additional Affidavit of Support Form I-864 from a joint sponsor may be submitted. For more information visit https://nvc.state.gov/aos and https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p. A consular officer will decide if you meet these requirements at the time of the interview. Note: You, as the sponsor, and any other sponsors household members and joint sponsors, must provide updated or additional evidence for the applicant to present at the time of their interview such as: * Other income * Assets * Proof of current employment Note: You submitted documentation to the National Visa Center through the Consular Electronic Application Center CEAC. You can continue to upload documents to CEAC up until the date of your visa interview

 

How should I interpret this?  I do have someone willing to sponsor but my mum is $7000 over.  I know that isn't much but it's still over.   Could it be it's referring to my i864 or both mine and my mums?  Would it be best to wait till the interview and then give the documents for joint sponsor if needed?  If so, can my husband just print it all out to give to them?  I'm in the states and he is in the UK.  Any insight or advice, I would be so thankful.  We are so happy to be at this stage, I just want to make sure I understand everything.  I was hoping my mom's income and savings with our house sale money would have been enough but still thankful to be at this stage.

 

 

Its a standard response to the  many I 864  that are “borderline” for many reasons. To be totally safe, have the joint sponsor forms all completed uploaded and in hand for the interview. The interviewing officer has the final say. Having a joint sponsor already to go can avoid delays if the IO determines one is needed. 

[MaegZ0322 29]

8 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

Its a standard response to the  many I 864  that are “borderline” for many reasons. To be totally safe, have the joint sponsor forms all completed uploaded and in hand for the interview. The interviewing officer has the final say. Having a joint sponsor already to go can avoid delays if the IO determines one is needed. 

That puts my mind at ease.  So it would be best to try and get their informaton and application uploded to the CEAC page?  Do we have until the interview letter to upload? I need to check that.  Is it ok for him to take the printouts to the interview for the joint sponsor?

[pushbrk 13,587]

54 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

Its a standard response to the  many I 864  that are “borderline” for many reasons. To be totally safe, have the joint sponsor forms all completed uploaded and in hand for the interview. The interviewing officer has the final say. Having a joint sponsor already to go can avoid delays if the IO determines one is needed. 

Not exactly. Specifically, it is a message sent when the income shown on the most recent tax return is insufficient.  This is very common for a retired person, who may have substantial non-taxable income, or those using liquid assets to qualify.  My advice is to simply ignore everything in the message, except that part that says the Consular Officer will decide.  Just expect them to do their job and get on with life.

[Lil bear 4,495]

58 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Not exactly. Specifically, it is a message sent when the income shown on the most recent tax return is insufficient.  This is very common for a retired person, who may have substantial non-taxable income, or those using liquid assets to qualify.  My advice is to simply ignore everything in the message, except that part that says the Consular Officer will decide.  Just expect them to do their job and get on with life.

We received the same  letter as OP,  even though my son’s previous years income as well as current income was above the minimum. So our experience was slightly different to the scenario you outline. 

[MaegZ0322 29]

1 hour ago, pushbrk said:

Not exactly. Specifically, it is a message sent when the income shown on the most recent tax return is insufficient.  This is very common for a retired person, who may have substantial non-taxable income, or those using liquid assets to qualify.  My advice is to simply ignore everything in the message, except that part that says the Consular Officer will decide.  Just expect them to do their job and get on with life.

So do you think if they do their job, that would ential approving us?  My mum is retired and most of ther income is not taxed but I did send in all the supporting documents that show all her payments.   Her pensions don't show with her social security but are listed on her tax returns.  Could that be it? That they are just looking at her social securtiy?  That is lower than the poverty rate.  It's her 2 pensions that take her over the requirement.  So sorry about all these questions and thank you for your time in replying.

[pushbrk 13,587]

32 minutes ago, MaegZ0322 said:

So do you think if they do their job, that would ential approving us?  My mum is retired and most of ther income is not taxed but I did send in all the supporting documents that show all her payments.   Her pensions don't show with her social security but are listed on her tax returns.  Could that be it? That they are just looking at her social securtiy?  That is lower than the poverty rate.  It's her 2 pensions that take her over the requirement.  So sorry about all these questions and thank you for your time in replying.

If you sent the declaration letters from any non-taxable pension, including the one from Social Security, you should have all the income evidence you need.  If her total annual payments from the pensions and SS are well above the minimum, yes, I would expect no issues with the public charge judgement call, unless the retiree is of a very advanced age.  "Elderly" sponsors are not always the best choice, but it will be the totality of circumstances that carry the day, or not.

[MaegZ0322 29]

3 hours ago, pushbrk said:

If you sent the declaration letters from any non-taxable pension, including the one from Social Security, you should have all the income evidence you need.  If her total annual payments from the pensions and SS are well above the minimum, yes, I would expect no issues with the public charge judgement call, unless the retiree is of a very advanced age.  "Elderly" sponsors are not always the best choice, but it will be the totality of circumstances that carry the day, or not.

Thank you so much. With her social security and 2 pensions, she is $7000 over the minimum requirement for an 2 person household and she just turned 77.  I also remember your advice from last year for my husband to show evidence of his share of a house he inherited from his parents.  Hopefully, it will sell before his interview but he will take any evidence for all that.  He should get about $100,000.   Thank you again, so very much.