Catholic? Divorced? Fiance is not Catholic?

[The_dip_sticks 0]

I found this the other day and I thought a few people here might benefit from this.

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We are a Catholic jurisdiction, White RobedMonks of St. Benedict, seperate from the Roman Catholic Church. The priest who heads up the jurisdiction in Texas is ordained by the Roman Catholic Church.

We officiate weddings of divorced Catholics, Catholics marrying non-Catholics or anyone wanting a religious or spiritual ceremony. There are no required classes or hoops to jump through. We accept all without question.

All Catholic Sacraments are available to you.

To find out more, go to http://catholicswithoutachurch.org . There you will find more information.

If you have any further questions please contac me here or at 832-330-7657 or Father Milt who's phone number is posted on the website.

Peace

Jim Ecklund

[Jamie76 0]

I think that is the way it is supposed to be Sometimes I feel that certain churches are nothing but some clique and don't care about what matters most.

[The_dip_sticks 0]

Yeah tell me about it. I was looking at their website and its so nice to see that people that have gotten the shut door before now have some hope to be able to have an option when it comes to getting married with in their catholic faith. Its so awsome that they are also willing to celebrate the nuptial mass any where. It does not have to be held inside the church. They will even have the catholic ceremony on the beach!

Are there any restrictions as to where the ceremony can take place?

The choice of location for your wedding is yours. Depending on weather and other factors ceremonies may be held out-of-doors. While the WRB does not maintain any church buildings we do have a church often available for our use. You may also be able to use interdenominational churches and chapels for more formal settings. Hotels, banquet halls, private homes, museums and other locales are other options. A wedding consultant or the yellow pages can yield additional suggestions.

What is the difference in having a Nuptial Mass and a wedding outside of Mass?

Your wedding ceremony will be very similar to that celebrated in the Roman jurisdiction since we share the same liturgical forms. The Nuptial Mass is the preferred way of celebrating the sacrament. Because the WRB is ecumenical, all people participating in the ceremony are invited to the altar for communion, regardless of religious affiliation. On a practical side, it only adds a minimal amount of time to the length of the ceremony. Weddings can also be celebrated outside of the Mass.

My fiancé is divorced, is that a problem?

As Catholics, we believe in the sanctity of marriage; we also realize that we are only too human. When a marriage ends through divorce, it is often prima facie evidence that the essential element of marriage did not exist to maintain the bond. While we do not have an annulment or dispensation process, remarriage is allowed in order to avoid further human tragedy. From this perspective the WRB solemnizes remarriages with the joy and the peace of Christ.

My fiancé is not Catholic, do we have to promise anything about raising the children?

As an ecumenical community, the WRB network is inclusive. We encourage you to consider how religious differences might impact your relationship. It is not one of those easily overlooked issues. We only ask that you raise any children in a loving household and teach them to love God and one another as He loves us, wholly and completely.

Can we personalize the ceremony in any way?

We will be pleased to assist you in personalizing your wedding ceremony. There are many ways in which this can be accomplished. Options for readings, both from the scriptures and other sources, which speak to marriage are available. Vows can be written by you or chosen from more traditional options. Ceremonies which speak to various ethnic groups such as the coin, rope and veil, hand fasting or jumping-the-broom ceremonies can also be accommodated. Unity candles, roses to parents and other more traditional activities can be easily included. Discussing your wishes with your priest is the best way to assure that your day is special.

Edited July 22, 2007 by The_dip_sticks

[ace13 0]

Sorry...that isn't sacramental. It is a fraud. Unfortunately, you can't be part of a church and then make your own rules and expect it to be acceptable. If you disagree with the teachings of the Catholic church, don't get married in the church.

[churipu 4]

Sorry...that isn't sacramental. It is a fraud. Unfortunately, you can't be part of a church and then make your own rules and expect it to be acceptable. If you disagree with the teachings of the Catholic church, don't get married in the church.

I was thinking the same exact thing and I couldn't agree more...

[Chica Yeyé 41]

To the Original Poster: seems to me spirituality is an important part of your life and your relationship - I am personally super glad that you found a congregation without judgment that will provide you guidance and a place of belonging. Kudos to you both!!!!

Peace in all forms and to all faiths, L.

[The_dip_sticks 0]

I posted this because Im sure that there are many catholics that keep hitting barriers when it comes to their faith and being able to marry in the catholic church in certain circumstances. The point of this is that it gives people an option to be able to follow their spiritualality while also being able to marry with out being looked down upon, for being divorced or because your significant other is not of your same faith. It may work for some people it may not work for others, how ever its just a link with info in case any one else finds themselves in that situation.

Edited July 23, 2007 by The_dip_sticks

[Caladan 19]

But it isn't really a Catholic ceremony if it's done by Rogue Priests Working Outside the System. Marriages have to be approved by a diocese. No diocesan approval, no marriage, even if the guy officiating was once ordained.

You can get married to a non-Catholic in the Catholic Church. It's just one extra form.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Yeah tell me about it. I was looking at their website and its so nice to see that people that have gotten the shut door before now have some hope to be able to have an option when it comes to getting married with in their catholic faith. Its so awsome that they are also willing to celebrate the nuptial mass any where. It does not have to be held inside the church. They will even have the catholic ceremony on the beach!

Are there any restrictions as to where the ceremony can take place?

The choice of location for your wedding is yours. Depending on weather and other factors ceremonies may be held out-of-doors. While the WRB does not maintain any church buildings we do have a church often available for our use. You may also be able to use interdenominational churches and chapels for more formal settings. Hotels, banquet halls, private homes, museums and other locales are other options. A wedding consultant or the yellow pages can yield additional suggestions.

What is the difference in having a Nuptial Mass and a wedding outside of Mass?

Your wedding ceremony will be very similar to that celebrated in the Roman jurisdiction since we share the same liturgical forms. The Nuptial Mass is the preferred way of celebrating the sacrament. Because the WRB is ecumenical, all people participating in the ceremony are invited to the altar for communion, regardless of religious affiliation. On a practical side, it only adds a minimal amount of time to the length of the ceremony. Weddings can also be celebrated outside of the Mass.

My fiancé is divorced, is that a problem?

As Catholics, we believe in the sanctity of marriage; we also realize that we are only too human. When a marriage ends through divorce, it is often prima facie evidence that the essential element of marriage did not exist to maintain the bond. While we do not have an annulment or dispensation process, remarriage is allowed in order to avoid further human tragedy. From this perspective the WRB solemnizes remarriages with the joy and the peace of Christ.

My fiancé is not Catholic, do we have to promise anything about raising the children?

As an ecumenical community, the WRB network is inclusive. We encourage you to consider how religious differences might impact your relationship. It is not one of those easily overlooked issues. We only ask that you raise any children in a loving household and teach them to love God and one another as He loves us, wholly and completely.

Can we personalize the ceremony in any way?

We will be pleased to assist you in personalizing your wedding ceremony. There are many ways in which this can be accomplished. Options for readings, both from the scriptures and other sources, which speak to marriage are available. Vows can be written by you or chosen from more traditional options. Ceremonies which speak to various ethnic groups such as the coin, rope and veil, hand fasting or jumping-the-broom ceremonies can also be accommodated. Unity candles, roses to parents and other more traditional activities can be easily included. Discussing your wishes with your priest is the best way to assure that your day is special.

I am Catholic and was granted an annulment for my previous marriage (process took about a 16 months). What were the answers to those questions from your local parish?

Here's some info that might be helpful...

Any marriage involving a Catholic is subject to Church norms known as "canon law." Catholics are obliged to marry in the Catholic Church, following the marriage rite of the Catholic Church. Their exchange of vows must be witnessed by either a priest or deacon and two other witnesses. A Catholic can receive permission to marry a non-Catholic and they may be married in the church of the non-Catholic party, but if their exchange of vows will be witnessed by a minister of that denomination, the Catholic must seek a written dispensation from the local Catholic Bishop. Any priest or deacon in one of our local parishes can assist in this matter.

http://www.diogh.org/youngacm/marriage_prep.htm

If you haven't already had an initial interview with your local parish priest or deacon who prepares couples for marriage, I'd recommend at least sitting down with all the questions you have above.

[The_dip_sticks 0]

I dont have questions. Im not divorced I was just sharing this info for others who might be intrested.

[The_dip_sticks 0]

Our main thing is that we wanted the religious ceremony but we wanted to have it on the beach, and you know the Catholic church wont allow you to get married any where but inside the church. So you know we had to settle for that.

[Eric-Pris 1,610]

From http://catholicswithoutachurch.org

Donations Policy

All of that being said, we ask that you consider the following factors should you decide to offer a donation:

1: the officiant normally spends at least 10 hours per wedding;

2: the officiant is a highly trained and skilled person, not a "mail order minister/rabbi";

3: some couples are not able to make any kind of donation;

4: a significant portion of any donation goes toward our charitable work in India, such as the Women's Village Project;

5: administrative costs (web page, postage, telephone, travel expenses, vestments, documents, etc);

But one is missing:

6. Lexus payments (for the ministers) are high these days.

[JVKn'CVO 11]

Our main thing is that we wanted the religious ceremony but we wanted to have it on the beach, and you know the Catholic church wont allow you to get married any where but inside the church. So you know we had to settle for that.

The catholic church in Argentina marries people outdoors. I don't know why the church here has a problem with that...and it is a valid catholic marriage. I've personally assisted many of them.

Saludos,

Caro

[BishopMnA 0]

Our main thing is that we wanted the religious ceremony but we wanted to have it on the beach, and you know the Catholic church wont allow you to get married any where but inside the church. So you know we had to settle for that.

This is misinformation commonly spread by unknowing non-Catholics. The Catholic Church is not a physical building.

Peace,

MarkNAAm

[The_dip_sticks 0]

Our main thing is that we wanted the religious ceremony but we wanted to have it on the beach, and you know the Catholic church wont allow you to get married any where but inside the church. So you know we had to settle for that.

This is misinformation commonly spread by unknowing non-Catholics. The Catholic Church is not a physical building.

Peace,

MarkNAAm

I know what the Catholic chucrh is I have been raised Roman Catholic all my life. No I did not miss understand. When the priest at my parish told me that THEY WILL NOT MARRY ANY ONE ANY WHERE BUT INSIDE THE PHYSICAL CHURCH BUILDING I THINK I GOT THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. He said NO park, house, beach ect. Thats what I was told by a priest. Thank you.