I-130 Out of the country now. Future address unknown.

[commocean 9]

My wife and I live outside the US.  How should I-130 #12, "Where will you live?", be answered if we don't have a US home yet?  We have a home overseas but I can't change homes and move until my wife gets her green card.  I have an idea what city I might want to live in but no fixed address.  Alternatively I have relatives' addresses, where we don't intend to live. in the US.  When I filed I put unknown, but I'm not sure that's the best approach.  

Thanks.

 

I have questions about how to fill out my VJ Timeline.  I filed an I-130 online.  Where it asks for USCIS & Consulate Filing Locations should I just leave that blank?

[Crazy Cat 41,979]

You can & should use the address of a relative initially.  Be aware that you MUST show intent to re-locate to the US to establish domicile.  This is a separate requirement from the financial requirements. 

Edited February 10, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Redro 4,611]

3 hours ago, commocean said:

My wife and I live outside the US.  How should I-130 #12, "Where will you live?", be answered if we don't have a US home yet?  We have a home overseas but I can't change homes and move until my wife gets her green card.  I have an idea what city I might want to live in but no fixed address.  Alternatively I have relatives' addresses, where we don't intend to live. in the US.  When I filed I put unknown, but I'm not sure that's the best approach.  

Thanks.

 

I have questions about how to fill out my VJ Timeline.  I filed an I-130 online.  Where it asks for USCIS & Consulate Filing Locations should I just leave that blank?

Use the address of a relative for now. That's okay. People have changed it before and I believe you will be asked again in the DS260 and at POE where you want the GC sent so they know plans change. 

 

Get your proof of intent to re-establish domicile squared away with your initial intended home address before the beneficiary spouse interviews. 

I've seen numerous cases be placed in a holding state because the CO didn't think there was adequate evidence the US citizen intended to move back. 

They want to see a lease or a letter from a relative/friend stating you will be living with them when you first enter the US. 

Depending on where you currently live the USC might have to move back to the US or secure a job before the beneficiary interviews. 

 

For filing location I put where our I-130 is being processed. You can check the address at the bottom of your NOA1. 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by Kor2USA

[commocean 9]

Crazy Cat and Kor2USA, Thank you.  I'm retired so I don't think I want to get a job.  But maybe I'll see if Walmart needs a greeter.  Seriously, does anyone have a suggestion, short of job-related how I can show intent to move back to the US?  I will get a letter from my relative, and we have a son living in the US.

[Redro 4,611]

3 hours ago, commocean said:

Crazy Cat and Kor2USA, Thank you.  I'm retired so I don't think I want to get a job.  But maybe I'll see if Walmart needs a greeter.  Seriously, does anyone have a suggestion, short of job-related how I can show intent to move back to the US?  I will get a letter from my relative, and we have a son living in the US.

1. Voter registration proof

2. Driver's License from the US

3. Shipping quotes for moving things back to the US

4. Active US bank account (sending money to the US)

5. One attorney on youtube suggests getting a library card from the city you'll be living in. 

 

 

I would have a look around the forum to see what proof other members moving from China have provided as some consulates are a little tougher than others. 

 

https://www.visajourney.com/sitesearch/?cx=partner-pub-3407508467788263%3A9725800110&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=reestablish+domicile+china+&sa=Search

 

 

[Ryan H 3,812]

Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

[pushbrk 12,969]

On 2/11/2022 at 4:32 AM, commocean said:

Crazy Cat and Kor2USA, Thank you.  I'm retired so I don't think I want to get a job.  But maybe I'll see if Walmart needs a greeter.  Seriously, does anyone have a suggestion, short of job-related how I can show intent to move back to the US?  I will get a letter from my relative, and we have a son living in the US.

The domicile issue is not a big concern coming from China.  You're retired.  Address where you will live in the USA can be entered as To Be Determined on the I-130.  However, it is good to have a US Mailing address.  You can use any good friend or relative that can scan and email you any notices mailed by USCIS.

[commocean 9]

On 2/11/2022 at 12:12 AM, Kor2USA said:

1. Voter registration proof

2. Driver's License from the US

3. Shipping quotes for moving things back to the US

4. Active US bank account (sending money to the US)

5. One attorney on youtube suggests getting a library card from the city you'll be living in. 

 

 

I would have a look around the forum to see what proof other members moving from China have provided as some consulates are a little tougher than others. 

 

https://www.visajourney.com/sitesearch/?cx=partner-pub-3407508467788263%3A9725800110&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=reestablish+domicile+china+&sa=Search

 

 

Thanks.  I have a DL, voter registration, and bank accounts - all in different cities.  haha  We don't live in China, but in Europe. One thing we can say is our son is living a 

[commocean 9]

9 hours ago, pushbrk said:

The domicile issue is not a big concern coming from China.  You're retired.  Address where you will live in the USA can be entered as To Be Determined on the I-130.  However, it is good to have a US Mailing address.  You can use any good friend or relative that can scan and email you any notices mailed by USCIS.

Thanks.  That sounds reasonable.  We have several addresses I can use.  It seems reasonable to me that it's undecided and I don't like to make stuff up.  In no way am I trying to be fraudulent.  But, I somehow have to be persuasive about my intentions.  I realize people often stretch the truth or lie.  After we got married we got turned down for a tourist visa so we could go to a family reunion.  We were told my wife had to apply for a green card instead

[commocean 9]

One other thing I thought of is all these years, post 65 y.o., I've been paying into Medicare B so I can have it when I go back.  It's of no use outside the US.

 

[pushbrk 12,969]

1 hour ago, commocean said:

Thanks.  That sounds reasonable.  We have several addresses I can use.  It seems reasonable to me that it's undecided and I don't like to make stuff up.  In no way am I trying to be fraudulent.  But, I somehow have to be persuasive about my intentions.  I realize people often stretch the truth or lie.  After we got married we got turned down for a tourist visa so we could go to a family reunion.  We were told my wife had to apply for a green card instead

As you go through this process, pay close attention to the actual words you read and the words you use.  SHE, not WE, was turned down for a tourist visa.  Your wife was turned down for a tourist visa because she's married to a US Citizen, and the Consular Officer correctly concluded (actually is required to assume) that your wife has immigrant intent.

[commocean 9]

7 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

As you go through this process, pay close attention to the actual words you read and the words you use.  SHE, not WE, was turned down for a tourist visa.  Your wife was turned down for a tourist visa because she's married to a US Citizen, and the Consular Officer correctly concluded (actually is required to assume) that your wife has immigrant intent.

Thanks, again.  Of course you're right.  I'm usually very careful in filling out forms.  (I do make mistakes.)  Yes, he thought she was going to immigrate.  I think one problem was my wife had no job in China.  My American colleague, who had married around the same time, told me his Chinese wife got a tourist visa.  But she had a job.  We thought that my contract in China would be enough to show intent to return.  Thanks for your perspective.

[pushbrk 12,969]

14 minutes ago, commocean said:

Thanks, again.  Of course you're right.  I'm usually very careful in filling out forms.  (I do make mistakes.)  Yes, he thought she was going to immigrate.  I think one problem was my wife had no job in China.  My American colleague, who had married around the same time, told me his Chinese wife got a tourist visa.  But she had a job.  We thought that my contract in China would be enough to show intent to return.  Thanks for your perspective.

She would have needed an excellent job.  Did your friend's wife get the visa before or after they married.  Makes a big difference.

[commocean 9]

39 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

She would have needed an excellent job.  Did your friend's wife get the visa before or after they married.  Makes a big difference.

I assumed(d) it was after but I can't really be sure.  What surprised me was she was a member of the Communist Party.  2009

[pushbrk 12,969]

2 minutes ago, commocean said:

I assumed(d) it was after but I can't really be sure.  What surprised me was she was a member of the Communist Party.  2009

That's less important than the immigrant intent, and what kind of job she had at the time.