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I-944 - do sponsors of K-1 visa complete this?

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The new ruling on I-944 is anything but clear.  I haven't found a resource showing whether I as the sponsor of my wife and her 2 children, fill it out or whether she fills it out - It is logical to think that I as the sponsor would fill that form out since it is my income and my assets that qualify me to be a sponsor -- This I-944 is intended to keep people from staying here and becoming dependent on the government, I applaud that as I know many immigrants who have moved here and live off of welfare, medicaid, public housing etc.

Any seniors here who can shed some light?

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The I-944 is completed by the immigrant.....not the sponsor.  There are parts which include information about the immigrant's household.

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2 hours ago, JoSteph said:

The new ruling on I-944 is anything but clear.  I haven't found a resource showing whether I as the sponsor of my wife and her 2 children, fill it out or whether she fills it out - It is logical to think that I as the sponsor would fill that form out since it is my income and my assets that qualify me to be a sponsor -- This I-944 is intended to keep people from staying here and becoming dependent on the government, I applaud that as I know many immigrants who have moved here and live off of welfare, medicaid, public housing etc.

Any seniors here who can shed some light?

The 944 is for the immigrant to fill out. So your wife and her 2 children (if they are K2) will fill one form each.

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5 hours ago, Ayrton said:

The 944 is for the immigrant to fill out. So your wife and her 2 children (if they are K2) will fill one form each.

Thanks, I get that, what I'm having trouble wrapping my head around is the fact that a K-1 Visa is approved based on the resources of the sponsor.  Now with the new rules, once the innocent spouse comes here on his/her spouses promises to take care of them, the government changes gears and says - ok applicant, why should we let you stay here?  Show us your degrees, your SSN, your credit history, your assets.  Give us your bank statements, your debts.  We want to decide if you should be allowed to stay here now that you are here based on your husband/wife's financial strength, prove to us that you are qualified -- Oh and by the way, you can list your wife/husband's income, tax returns, assets, liabilities, too, but we want to qualify you before we say yes to giving you a SSN, Adjustment of Status, EAD.  

 

Really not a well thought out part of the immigration experience.

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1 minute ago, JoSteph said:

Thanks, I get that, what I'm having trouble wrapping my head around is the fact that a K-1 Visa is approved based on the resources of the sponsor.  Now with the new rules, once the innocent spouse comes here on his/her spouses promises to take care of them, the government changes gears and says - ok applicant, why should we let you stay here?  Show us your degrees, your SSN, your credit history, your assets.  Give us your bank statements, your debts.  We want to decide if you should be allowed to stay here now that you are here based on your husband/wife's financial strength, prove to us that you are qualified -- Oh and by the way, you Acan list your wife/husband's income, tax returns, assets, liabilities, too, but we want to qualify you before we say yes to giving you a SSN, Adjustment of Status, EAD.  

 

Really not a well thought out part of the immigration experience.

It's pretty much a fact that the I-944 wasn't made thinking of K1 immigrants. It makes sense for people that have a background in the US. Unfortunately k1 didn't get exempted so you need to provide what they ask. The only thing that k1 shouldn't be able to provide is the credit history, because of course, no SSN. But a lot people got a letter from a credit bureau stating they didn't have a credit history, so you should be able too.

 

Yes, the K1 is approved according to the qualifying sponsor, but the immigrant is not on the hook for the rest of it's life. So they still need to prove that they won't become a public charge.

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4 hours ago, Ayrton said:

It's pretty much a fact that the I-944 wasn't made thinking of K1 immigrants. It makes sense for people that have a background in the US. Unfortunately k1 didn't get exempted so you need to provide what they ask. The only thing that k1 shouldn't be able to provide is the credit history, because of course, no SSN. But a lot people got a letter from a credit bureau stating they didn't have a credit history, so you should be able too.

 

Yes, the K1 is approved according to the qualifying sponsor, but the immigrant is not on the hook for the rest of it's life. So they still need to prove that they won't become a public charge.

Like you said, it's pretty much a fact that the I-944 wasn't made for K-1 immigrants.  My point exactly.  The form and the questions asked are more redundant and asinine than anything I've ever filled out for immigration.  It is clear they didn't think it through - They allow men and women in this country to qualify to bring in their spouse or fiance, the standards are very low.  The income which qualifies is barely over food stamp qualifying pay.  Yet they allow them to bring in another human being with a promise that they will be responsible for 10 years if their spouse/fiancee ever decide to request public assistance.  Many do go onto milk the system, so they should fix immigration on that side of the equation.  Raise the bar to sponsor a new citizen.  Post a bond, make 2x the minimum, but once qualified, forget the foolishness that comes from then qualifying the spouse.  Most would not qualify from an education, language, income history or asset standpoint.  Then add the fact that they could not possibly have a credit rating in the US yet and you wind up with a trip back to qualifying the sponsor all over again.

 

The most amazing question on the application relates to income from illegal activities.  I can't imagine the intelligence deficit of someone who is involved in illegal activities deciding to declare that they do indeed make XXXX dollars per year from selling drugs, stealing cars, robbing banks, etc.  They are by definition, liars, cheats, thieves and robbers and the government hopes to get them to answer honestly when asked if they make any money illegally?

 

This is the end of my rant, sorry to go on, but this form will go through major revisions, I am quite certain of that.  It just won't be in time for our journey.

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