Divorce - the ugly D word

[Elmer/Bella 0]

As part of the packet of docs to send my fiancé, I have heard that a divorce certificate is not sufficient to prove that any previous marriage(s) have been finalized with a divorce decree.  And that I need to send her (certified or non-certified) copies of the decree which does include a judge's signature granting the divorce.  So the question is, will a certificate suffice? If not, does the divorce decree have to be a certified copy?

[Greenbaum 12,258]

1 hour ago, Elmer/Bella said:

As part of the packet of docs to send my fiancé, I have heard that a divorce certificate is not sufficient to prove that any previous marriage(s) have been finalized with a divorce decree.  And that I need to send her (certified or non-certified) copies of the decree which does include a judge's signature granting the divorce.  So the question is, will a certificate suffice? If not, does the divorce decree have to be a certified copy?

@Hank_ is the resident expert over in the PI sub-forum for USEM interviews. He'll be able to answer you directly.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

2 hours ago, Elmer/Bella said:

As part of the packet of docs to send my fiancé, I have heard that a divorce certificate is not sufficient to prove that any previous marriage(s) have been finalized with a divorce decree.  And that I need to send her (certified or non-certified) copies of the decree which does include a judge's signature granting the divorce.  So the question is, will a certificate suffice? If not, does the divorce decree have to be a certified copy?

Where did you hear this, and are you a former Filipino citizen? A notarized or certified copy of the divorce decree is all you need for the US Embassy interview. 

[Hank_ 9,173]

10 hours ago, Elmer/Bella said:

As part of the packet of docs to send my fiancé, I have heard that a divorce certificate is not sufficient to prove that any previous marriage(s) have been finalized with a divorce decree.  And that I need to send her (certified or non-certified) copies of the decree which does include a judge's signature granting the divorce.  So the question is, will a certificate suffice? If not, does the divorce decree have to be a certified copy?

Are you referring to the I-129F or the visa application process at the embassy?   Are you the Petitioner?

 

As the Petitioner; you need to include the divorce decree (certified) with the I-129F, you do not need a copy of the divorce decree for the embassy phase, BUT ... CFO will want a copy of your divorce decree for the GCP seminar. 

 

Philippine forum:  https://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/129-philippines/

[Carpe Vinum 2,314]

9 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Where did you hear this, and are you a former Filipino citizen? A notarized or certified copy of the divorce decree is all you need for the US Embassy interview. 

^^^ This.  One of my wife's friends just got a 221g from the embassy. Her husband is an American citizen but was born in the Philippines. She needed a CENOMAR for him. This is for the embassy stage. Not for filing the 129f or 130.

[Elmer/Bella 0]

On 3/6/2020 at 1:58 AM, Hank_ said:

Are you referring to the I-129F or the visa application process at the embassy?   Are you the Petitioner?

 

As the Petitioner; you need to include the divorce decree (certified) with the I-129F, you do not need a copy of the divorce decree for the embassy phase, BUT ... CFO will want a copy of your divorce decree for the GCP seminar. 

 

Philippine forum:  https://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/129-philippines/

I am the petitioner and am referring to the visa application process at the embassy.  For the I-129F, the copy of the divorce decree I sent was not certified, but I will send her one in case they want to see it in the interview, or for the CFO seminar.  

[Elmer/Bella 0]

On 3/6/2020 at 3:54 AM, boris64 said:

^^^ This.  One of my wife's friends just got a 221g from the embassy. Her husband is an American citizen but was born in the Philippines. She needed a CENOMAR for him. This is for the embassy stage. Not for filing the 129f or 130.

So, I am an American citizen born there but came here to the US when I was 2 yrs old, so I'm pretty sure I don't need an CENOMAR. Right?

[Hank_ 9,173]

12 minutes ago, Elmer/Bella said:

I am the petitioner and am referring to the visa application process at the embassy.  For the I-129F, the copy of the divorce decree I sent was not certified, but I will send her one in case they want to see it in the interview, or for the CFO seminar.  

CFO will want to see it as evidence you are free to marry (redact the SSN).   Embassy will not want a copy of the petitioner divorce decree.

10 minutes ago, Elmer/Bella said:

So, I am an American citizen born there but came here to the US when I was 2 yrs old, so I'm pretty sure I don't need an CENOMAR. Right?

Right!