Varicella Vaccine "not routinely avaiable" on DS-3025

[amforever 46]

My fiance is here in the US now from England. I was looking over his DS-3025 and under Varicella, it says not routinely available. He had chickenpox as a child. We only have one civil surgeon in our area, she said we need to either have the medical results from London (full medical results) or redo the tests here in order to fill out the I-693. My question- Can she just fill out the vaccine portion of the I-693 or do we need to have it fully completed? ALSO we called the Medical in London where he had his test they said they didn't have the results as they were sent to the embassy. Does anyone know if it is possible to get the medical results from the embassy in London? (Not just vaccine records) Thank you

[LukeU 413]

8 minutes ago, amforever said:

My fiance is here in the US now from England. I was looking over his DS-3025 and under Varicella, it says not routinely available. He had chickenpox as a child. We only have one civil surgeon in our area, she said we need to either have the medical results from London (full medical results) or redo the tests here in order to fill out the I-693. My question- Can she just fill out the vaccine portion of the I-693 or do we need to have it fully completed? ALSO we called the Medical in London where he had his test they said they didn't have the results as they were sent to the embassy. Does anyone know if it is possible to get the medical results from the embassy in London? (Not just vaccine records) Thank you

If he had Chicken Pox as a child and recorded it on the medical questionnaire they should have ticked the "Varicella History"    I've just checked mine (Medical 8th Feb) and that's the box that is ticked as I had chicken pox previously. 

There could be a slim chance if he went to the doctors of being able to get the visit report regarding having chicken pox  just to post with the DS-3025 (very slim, I don't know many people who have gone to the docs just for normal chicken pox)?

 

I aren't actually sure how to get the results, or if it is indeed even possible because as far as I'm aware they ship them to the embassy for your case record.

[bf__ 501]

I didn't think we K-1 needed to fill out I-693 as long as they had a copy of the DS-3025. Apologies if I have missed the point.. 

 

0. If you were admitted as a:

   1. K-1 fiancé(e) or a K-2 child of a K-1 fiancé(e); or

   2. K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen or a K-4 child of a K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen; and

   3. You received a medical examination prior to admission, then:

      1. (1)  You are not required to have another medical examination as long as you file your Form I-485 within one yearof an overseas medical examination; and

         1. (a)  The panel physician did not find a class A medical condition during your overseas examination; or

         2. (b)  The panel physician did find a class A medical condition, you received a waiver of inadmissibility, and

            you have complied with the terms and conditions of the waiver.

      2. (2)  Even if a new medical examination is not required, you must still show proof that you complied with the vaccination requirements. If the vaccination record (DS 3025) was not properly completed and included
         as part of the original overseas medical examination report, you will have to have the Part 9. Vaccination Record completed by a designated civil surgeon. In this case, you must submit Parts 1., 2., 3., 4., 6., and 9.of Form I-693.

[yuna628 9,680]

56 minutes ago, amforever said:

My fiance is here in the US now from England. I was looking over his DS-3025 and under Varicella, it says not routinely available. He had chickenpox as a child. We only have one civil surgeon in our area, she said we need to either have the medical results from London (full medical results) or redo the tests here in order to fill out the I-693. My question- Can she just fill out the vaccine portion of the I-693 or do we need to have it fully completed? ALSO we called the Medical in London where he had his test they said they didn't have the results as they were sent to the embassy. Does anyone know if it is possible to get the medical results from the embassy in London? (Not just vaccine records) Thank you

Chicken pox vax is NOT given in the UK. If you tell them you have had chicken pox in general they should mark that you have had chicken pox or that a waiver was given. Receiving a chicken pox vax would be useless to you. A K1 who has completed their medical within one year of filing for AOS does not need to complete another medical nor do they need an I-693 - UNLESS the following happens:

 

The USCIS sends you an RFE asking for a new vaccine transcription - for the following reasons (of which you will never know), the officer is new and isn't aware of the rules, they can't be bothered to go looking for your medical, or the DS3025 isn't properly filled out. There is no use in going to a civil surgeon unless they ask. Send a copy of the DS3025 with your AOS application. They will determine if it's okay.

 

Or the officer may ask you directly at the time of your interview if you have one. At that point it would be appropriate to have vaccinations transcribed, unless they request a full medical again directly.

 

Civil surgeons are notorious for misunderstanding or trying to scam. This civil surgeon is no different. If you should need a vaccine transcription then my suggestion is to travel outside your area to any civil surgeon that will assist you for a vaccine transcription ONLY. You NEVER have access to your full medical results, and you are not required to have another medical whatsoever as I said. If an I-693 is requested by the USCIS then only the vaccine portion needs to be completed by the CS and by you. Follow the instructions as it pertains to a K1 carefully.

[amforever 46]

1 hour ago, brandonflude1 said:

I didn't think we K-1 needed to fill out I-693 as long as they had a copy of the DS-3025. Apologies if I have missed the point.. 

 

0. If you were admitted as a:

   1. K-1 fiancé(e) or a K-2 child of a K-1 fiancé(e); or

   2. K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen or a K-4 child of a K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen; and

   3. You received a medical examination prior to admission, then:

      1. (1)  You are not required to have another medical examination as long as you file your Form I-485 within one yearof an overseas medical examination; and

         1. (a)  The panel physician did not find a class A medical condition during your overseas examination; or

         2. (b)  The panel physician did find a class A medical condition, you received a waiver of inadmissibility, and

            you have complied with the terms and conditions of the waiver.

      2. (2)  Even if a new medical examination is not required, you must still show proof that you complied with the vaccination requirements. If the vaccination record (DS 3025) was not properly completed and included
         as part of the original overseas medical examination report, you will have to have the Part 9. Vaccination Record completed by a designated civil surgeon. In this case, you must submit Parts 1., 2., 3., 4., 6., and 9.of Form I-693.

I found this and printed it from the USCIS website and I'll take it in with us when we see the civil surgeon. Thank you!

[amforever 46]

42 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Chicken pox vax is NOT given in the UK. If you tell them you have had chicken pox in general they should mark that you have had chicken pox or that a waiver was given. Receiving a chicken pox vax would be useless to you. A K1 who has completed their medical within one year of filing for AOS does not need to complete another medical nor do they need an I-693 - UNLESS the following happens:

 

The USCIS sends you an RFE asking for a new vaccine transcription - for the following reasons (of which you will never know), the officer is new and isn't aware of the rules, they can't be bothered to go looking for your medical, or the DS3025 isn't properly filled out. There is no use in going to a civil surgeon unless they ask. Send a copy of the DS3025 with your AOS application. They will determine if it's okay.

 

Or the officer may ask you directly at the time of your interview if you have one. At that point it would be appropriate to have vaccinations transcribed, unless they request a full medical again directly.

 

Civil surgeons are notorious for misunderstanding or trying to scam. This civil surgeon is no different. If you should need a vaccine transcription then my suggestion is to travel outside your area to any civil surgeon that will assist you for a vaccine transcription ONLY. You NEVER have access to your full medical results, and you are not required to have another medical whatsoever as I said. If an I-693 is requested by the USCIS then only the vaccine portion needs to be completed by the CS and by you. Follow the instructions as it pertains to a K1 carefully.

4

The civil surgeon near us seems like a good lady she works for the low-income clinic. It's $100 to see her so we will just see her and show her the instructions page for the I693 where it states we only need the vaccine page to be filled out. I'd rather not risk an RFE. Thank you!

[Wuozopo 4,293]

8 hours ago, amforever said:

I was looking over his DS-3025 and under Varicella, it says not routinely available. 

That works for spouse visas because they must be complete before their visa interview in London because they are essentially getting cleared for a greencard. Since they can't get the shot it is waived. 

 

For a K1, you have to be complete on shots by your AOS interview. Varicella is available in the US, so the notation from Knightsbridge of "not readily available" holds no water now for your AOS. Unfortunately the vaccination form was filled out incorrectly or he failed to inform them he had chickenpox. It needed to say Varicella History for a K1 to have the jab waived. 

 

If you go to a civil surgeon, they will take his word for chickenpox and mark the proper waiver. But you never know what kind of interviewer you will get. He might let it slide, might ask for a new medical, or may just ask for the Varicella to be documented by a CS. I'm with Yuna. Just wait. An RFE at an interview is not a big deal. You go get whatever they say (if anything) and send it straight back to your interviewer. 

 

 

8 hours ago, amforever said:

Does anyone know if it is possible to get the medical results from the embassy in London? (Not just vaccine records) 

The embassy doesn't keep them. They were in the big white envelope he turned in at POE. His records are stored at the National Records Center until you apply for AOS. Then they are retrieved and put in your AOS file.