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Hey everybody! Back on VisaJourney for the last step of this long, stressful,  journey.

 

Just filed N-400 online today (December 3) for my wife. We are at Hartford, CT field office.

 

Good luck to all. Hope everything moves swiftly!


I-130 process (CR-1):

Spoiler

I-130 sent: October 27, 2014

NOA1: October 30, 2014 (Nebraska Service Center)

NOA2: March 31, 2015

DS-261 completed and AOS bill paid: April 27, 2015

AOS & IV packages sent: May 20, 2015

Checklist for IV fee: June 26, 2015

IV fee paid: July 27, 2015

DS-260 completed: August 10, 2015

Checklist for benificiary's proof of legal residence: September 11, 2015

Beneficiary's proof of legal residence sent: September 15, 2015

Case complete (3 N/A's & confirmation via phone): October 13, 2015

Case complete e-mail received: October 20, 2015

Interview scheduled (P4 received): October 23, 2015

Interview: December 1, 2015 (APPROVED!)

Visa in hand: December 10, 2015

 

I-751 process (Removal of Conditions):

I-751 sent: December 5, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

NOA received: December 8, 2017 (GC extended until February 2019)

NOA received: August 6, 2018 (GC extended until August 2019)

Transferred to local field office: April 9, 2018

Interview (combo with N-400): August 6, 2019

New card is being produced: August 9, 2019

 

N-400 process (Naturalization):

N-400 filed: December 3, 2018 (filed online; Hartford, CT field office)

Biometrics letter received: December 12, 2018

Biometrics appointment: December 27, 2018 (walked in on December 17, 2018)

Interview: August 6, 2019 ("A decision cannot yet be made about your application")

In line for oath: August 9, 2019

Oath: September 17, 2019

 

So grateful for visajourney, but so happy to not need it anymore! Good luck to all.

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Submitted the N400 application this weekend. At first, it stated to call USCIS since there was an issue and the application could not go through. Late Yesterday, I received an email with the payment confirmation and the app changed to submitted with ETA 10 months. Now, the ETA is 15 months until March 2020. 😕


CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 2, 2018 submitted application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 14 months or March 2020.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled , date not yet shown.

December 10, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for  28 December 2018.

December 13, 2018 did a walk-in to the scheduled service center, and they did the appointment on the spot. New completion time reads 13 months to February 2020.

May 10, 2019 - received notification that interview has been scheduled. Date for the interview is Jun 12th, 2019. Completion time reads 9 months to February 2020.

June 12, 2019 - Passed the Interview. Waiting for Oath Ceremony Date. Estimated Wait Time: 6 months per the online portal. 

June 17, 2019 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled to July 9th, 2019. Wait Time: 5 months per the online portal. 

July 9th, 2019 - Oath Ceremony Done, Naturalization complete. Total time was 220 days or 7 months and 8 days.

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11 hours ago, hobbitspouse said:

Submitted the N400 application this weekend. At first, it stated to call USCIS since there was an issue and the application could not go through. Late Yesterday, I received an email with the payment confirmation and the app changed to submitted with ETA 10 months. Now, the ETA is 15 months until March 2020. 😕

Ugh that’s frustrating!

Where do you find the ETA info?


I-130 process (CR-1):

Spoiler

I-130 sent: October 27, 2014

NOA1: October 30, 2014 (Nebraska Service Center)

NOA2: March 31, 2015

DS-261 completed and AOS bill paid: April 27, 2015

AOS & IV packages sent: May 20, 2015

Checklist for IV fee: June 26, 2015

IV fee paid: July 27, 2015

DS-260 completed: August 10, 2015

Checklist for benificiary's proof of legal residence: September 11, 2015

Beneficiary's proof of legal residence sent: September 15, 2015

Case complete (3 N/A's & confirmation via phone): October 13, 2015

Case complete e-mail received: October 20, 2015

Interview scheduled (P4 received): October 23, 2015

Interview: December 1, 2015 (APPROVED!)

Visa in hand: December 10, 2015

 

I-751 process (Removal of Conditions):

I-751 sent: December 5, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

NOA received: December 8, 2017 (GC extended until February 2019)

NOA received: August 6, 2018 (GC extended until August 2019)

Transferred to local field office: April 9, 2018

Interview (combo with N-400): August 6, 2019

New card is being produced: August 9, 2019

 

N-400 process (Naturalization):

N-400 filed: December 3, 2018 (filed online; Hartford, CT field office)

Biometrics letter received: December 12, 2018

Biometrics appointment: December 27, 2018 (walked in on December 17, 2018)

Interview: August 6, 2019 ("A decision cannot yet be made about your application")

In line for oath: August 9, 2019

Oath: September 17, 2019

 

So grateful for visajourney, but so happy to not need it anymore! Good luck to all.

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Hey everyone - We will be applying on the 21st.  Still waiting for the ROC to be looked at, so will be requesting a combo-interview.  We expect this to be a long wait, but ready to get this started!  My husband's official time starts March 2019, so the biometrics may get processed, but won't hear much after that!




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On 12/4/2018 at 9:47 AM, kkg325 said:

Ugh that’s frustrating!

Where do you find the ETA info?

Once you submit your application and it has been processed,  you will receive an estimated time for completion in the  application dashboard.


CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 2, 2018 submitted application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 14 months or March 2020.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled , date not yet shown.

December 10, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for  28 December 2018.

December 13, 2018 did a walk-in to the scheduled service center, and they did the appointment on the spot. New completion time reads 13 months to February 2020.

May 10, 2019 - received notification that interview has been scheduled. Date for the interview is Jun 12th, 2019. Completion time reads 9 months to February 2020.

June 12, 2019 - Passed the Interview. Waiting for Oath Ceremony Date. Estimated Wait Time: 6 months per the online portal. 

June 17, 2019 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled to July 9th, 2019. Wait Time: 5 months per the online portal. 

July 9th, 2019 - Oath Ceremony Done, Naturalization complete. Total time was 220 days or 7 months and 8 days.

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Wife received ROC approval December 4, 2018.

She then filed for Citizenship via N-400 on December 6, 2018.

Estimated Case Completion Time:  8 months, or August 2019.

 

This 8 months is different than other have already reported . . . so I guess the timing is dependent upon each persons local office.

 

And today, December 8th received notice that they have scheduled the Biometric appointment.

But the time of the appointment will show up in the Documents section, and there is a note that it may take several days for this appointment document to actually show up on the website.  I suppose they will be mailing a paper copy also.

 

Anyway, happy to be joining this December 2018 Citizenship Group.

Best of luck to all.

Leo



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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

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CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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I just read this forum and I got very nervous. I applied for my removal of condition in January 2018 and I was eligible to apply for citizenship on December 5th of 2018. I just submitted my N400 last night but I see some people are talking about getting the ROC approved first and then applying for citizenship. is there such a condition? I thought as long as I have applied for ROC (still pending) I will be eligible to apply for citizenship. Can you please give me some information about this?

 


Married: 10/18/2015

Green Card Approved: 03/02/2016

Applied for ROC: 01/23/2018 still pending

Applied for Citizenship Online: 12/09/2018

Got Notified that BIO is scheduled but the date is not shown: 12/15/2018

BIO appointment is posted on my account: 12/18/2018

BIO appointment: 01/02/2019

Received Interview Notice: 04/22/2019

N-400 Interview Date: 05/21/2019

N-400 approval Date: 06/18/2019

Oath Ceremony Notice mailed:  07/02/2019

Oath Ceremony Notice showed on the website:  07/03/2019

Oath Ceremony Date:  07/16/2019

 

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3 minutes ago, Sachena said:

I just read this forum and I got very nervous. I applied for my removal of condition in January 2018 and I was eligible to apply for citizenship on December 5th of 2018. I just submitted my N400 last night but I see some people are talking about getting the ROC approved first and then applying for citizenship. is there such a condition? I thought as long as I have applied for ROC (still pending) I will be eligible to apply for citizenship. Can you please give me some information about this?

 

You do not need an approved ROC to apply for citizenship.  


N-400

12/30/2019  Filed N-400 online

12/30/2019  NOA1

01/09/2020  Walk in biometric set up by IO at Ft. Myers to be done at ASC Ft. Myers.  Biometric completed.  Original Biometric was scheduled for  01/23/2020.  Estimated       Case Completion time 10 months (November 2020).

 

 

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There is not a law or rule that says you must wait for ROC approval to apply for citizenship.

However, there have been some very screwy things happen to some (but not all) persons who do that.

For instance, some have had their ROC pulled and put in with their Citizenship application, which then puts them back at end of line again for ROC.

Others have had Citizenship interview before ROC approved and then USCIS goes crazy when they realize ROC not done, so then person has to wait for ROC and go back through Citizenship filing again, etc., etc.

On the other hand, others have had joint ROC and Citizenship interview at same time and been successful.

But other offices tell persons that it is not possible to have ROC and Citizenship interview at same time.

 

Because of all I have read about this for the past 4-5 years, felt it was less risky to just wait until ROC approved before submitting Citizenship application.

This wait did mean wife will be about 5 months behind in the Citizenship line compared to what she would have been if she had filed when originally eligible (under 90 day early rule) back in late July.

 

There is a lot of uncertainty either way you go . . . so you just make a gut decision, pay your money, and go . . . 



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Time Line - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

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CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, GirlPower said:

I just read this forum and I got very nervous. I applied for my removal of condition in January 2018 and I was eligible to apply for citizenship on December 5th of 2018. I just submitted my N400 last night but I see some people are talking about getting the ROC approved first and then applying for citizenship. is there such a condition? I thought as long as I have applied for ROC (still pending) I will be eligible to apply for citizenship. Can you please give me some information about this?

You will see some confusing wording.  The thing is that your citizenship cannot be approved until your ROC is processed.  When you get the USC interview, make sure that you contact the USCIS to make sure you get the combo interview - where the adjudicating officer interviews to close the ROC and USC petition both.  They need to complete the ROC petition in the system first, then can approve your USC.  Make sure you call the USCIS to get your case transferred when you are in line for an interview, then when your interview is scheduled, mail two things:

1) A copy of your interview letter to the office that has your ROC and request the case gets transferred to the local office

2) A copy of your ROC NOA to the local office with your interview letter and request your interview is a combo

 

The last part may be overkill as the USCIS is supposed to do this automatically, but I don't trust them and this is what we will be doing!




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Edited by GirlPower
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Married: 10/18/2015

Green Card Approved: 03/02/2016

Applied for ROC: 01/23/2018 still pending

Applied for Citizenship Online: 12/09/2018

Got Notified that BIO is scheduled but the date is not shown: 12/15/2018

BIO appointment is posted on my account: 12/18/2018

BIO appointment: 01/02/2019

Received Interview Notice: 04/22/2019

N-400 Interview Date: 05/21/2019

N-400 approval Date: 06/18/2019

Oath Ceremony Notice mailed:  07/02/2019

Oath Ceremony Notice showed on the website:  07/03/2019

Oath Ceremony Date:  07/16/2019

 

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22 minutes ago, Amhara said:

You will see some confusing wording.  The thing is that your citizenship cannot be approved until your ROC is processed.  When you get the USC interview, make sure that you contact the USCIS to make sure you get the combo interview - where the adjudicating officer interviews to close the ROC and USC petition both.  They need to complete the ROC petition in the system first, then can approve your USC.  Make sure you call the USCIS to get your case transferred when you are in line for an interview, then when your interview is scheduled, mail two things:

1) A copy of your interview letter to the office that has your ROC and request the case gets transferred to the local office

2) A copy of your ROC NOA to the local office with your interview letter and request your interview is a combo

 

The last part may be overkill as the USCIS is supposed to do this automatically, but I don't trust them and this is what we will be doing!

Thank you Amhara for all the details. I had no idea we need to request for a combo interview. I will definitely contact USCIS when my interview is scheduled. It appears that you have knowledge about this process so I have another question for you. My GC expired in 03/02/2017 and I applied for ROC on 01/23/2017. I didn't submit the notice ,which I received from USCIS to inform me that my GC is extended for 18 months, on my N400 application. is that going to be an issue? basically when they are reviewing my N400, they will see my green card is expired but there is no evidence on the fact that I have applied for removal of condition. 

 

Married: 10/18/2015

Green Card Approved: 03/02/2016

Applied for ROC: 01/23/2018 still pending

Applied for Citizenship Online: 12/09/2018

Got Notified that BIO is scheduled but the date is not shown: 12/15/2018

BIO appointment is posted on my account: 12/18/2018

BIO appointment: 01/02/2019

Received Interview Notice: 04/22/2019

N-400 Interview Date: 05/21/2019

N-400 approval Date: 06/18/2019

Oath Ceremony Notice mailed:  07/02/2019

Oath Ceremony Notice showed on the website:  07/03/2019

Oath Ceremony Date:  07/16/2019

 

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1 minute ago, GirlPower said:

I didn't submit the notice ,which I received from USCIS to inform me that my GC is extended for 18 months, on my N400 application. is that going to be an issue? basically when they are reviewing my N400, they will see my green card is expired but there is no evidence on the fact that I have applied for removal of condition. 

No, it shouldn't be an issue.  You aren't required to and you really shouldn't even need to ask for a combo interview.  I just highly recommend it because the USCIS can miss details.  I have seen some people comment on VJ that they had been approved before they were able to get back on their bus ride home, and others still waiting for a month or more after their interview.  It's just extra work on your end to try to compensate for any USCIS processing oversight!




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6 hours ago, Amhara said:

You will see some confusing wording.  The thing is that your citizenship cannot be approved until your ROC is processed.  When you get the USC interview, make sure that you contact the USCIS to make sure you get the combo interview - where the adjudicating officer interviews to close the ROC and USC petition both.  They need to complete the ROC petition in the system first, then can approve your USC.  Make sure you call the USCIS to get your case transferred when you are in line for an interview, then when your interview is scheduled, mail two things:

1) A copy of your interview letter to the office that has your ROC and request the case gets transferred to the local office

2) A copy of your ROC NOA to the local office with your interview letter and request your interview is a combo

 

The last part may be overkill as the USCIS is supposed to do this automatically, but I don't trust them and this is what we will be doing!

I don't believe that we (the applicants) can do any of the things that you suggest.



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Time Line - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

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CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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Just received my biometrics and fingerprints appointment scheduled just before the end of the year. Location is in Chicago, so trying to figure out if I can walk-in prior the scheduled date.

 

 


CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 2, 2018 submitted application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 14 months or March 2020.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled , date not yet shown.

December 10, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for  28 December 2018.

December 13, 2018 did a walk-in to the scheduled service center, and they did the appointment on the spot. New completion time reads 13 months to February 2020.

May 10, 2019 - received notification that interview has been scheduled. Date for the interview is Jun 12th, 2019. Completion time reads 9 months to February 2020.

June 12, 2019 - Passed the Interview. Waiting for Oath Ceremony Date. Estimated Wait Time: 6 months per the online portal. 

June 17, 2019 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled to July 9th, 2019. Wait Time: 5 months per the online portal. 

July 9th, 2019 - Oath Ceremony Done, Naturalization complete. Total time was 220 days or 7 months and 8 days.

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