I-864

[The Rock ll 227]

Hello VJ members

i have an confusion about AOS ...I was looking at the federal poverty guideline ...my question is ..in order to qualify for AOS without any co sponsor is my gross incomes comes into play or my taxable income is what they consider above poverty line...I make more then enough to support 8 people with my gross income but not sure if tax income is what consulate will look at instread of gross...

any experience member pls share your thoughts on this..

[geowrian 22,335]

To meet the minimum it's current income.

If you are an employee, then this is demonstrated by your pay stub and employment letter. Gross earnings is fine to report. The CO makes a determination on the public charge concern based on the totality of the circumstances.

If you are self-employed, then they will use line 22 from your 1040 to determine your income.

[The Rock ll 227]

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

To meet the minimum it's current income.

If you are an employee, then this is demonstrated by your pay stub and employment letter. Gross earnings is fine to report. The CO makes a determination on the public charge concern based on the totality of the circumstances.

If you are self-employed, then they will use line 22 from your 1040 to determine your income.

Thanks...

I am self employed...I wil look at my tax return to c where I am on my Income

[Ryan H 3,790]

Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

[pushbrk 12,082]

2 hours ago, The Rock ll said:

Thanks...

I am self employed...I wil look at my tax return to c where I am on my Income

The concept is that for the self employed, it is not "income" until it appears on line 22 of a 1040 form.  For the self employed, their "current income" will come from (today) their 2017 individual tax return, line 22 - Total Income, making legitimately taken business deductions on schedule C a double edged sword.  The time to be aware of this, for some, is BEFORE they file what will be their most current tax return at the NVC stage.

[The Rock ll 227]

13 hours ago, pushbrk said:

The concept is that for the self employed, it is not "income" until it appears on line 22 of a 1040 form.  For the self employed, their "current income" will come from (today) their 2017 individual tax return, line 22 - Total Income, making legitimately taken business deductions on schedule C a double edged sword.  The time to be aware of this, for some, is BEFORE they file what will be their most current tax return at the NVC stage.

Yes Sir.

i did checked my return and as of now I Already passed  on poverty line...even if I don’t work For therest of year I still be over the poverty guideline...so I am not worry about anything ...unless POTUS raised the poverty guideline which is highly unlikely...

[pushbrk 12,082]

9 hours ago, The Rock ll said:

Yes Sir.

i did checked my return and as of now I Already passed  on poverty line...even if I don’t work For therest of year I still be over the poverty guideline...so I am not worry about anything ...unless POTUS raised the poverty guideline which is highly unlikely...

You tax return is not going to show anything in terms of THIS year. Again, it is "revenue" not "income" until it appears on line 22 of a tax return.  Is the number on line 22 of page 1 of your 2017 tax return enough???  THAT is your current income, NOT anything that has happened so far in 2018.

[The Rock ll 227]

6 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

You tax return is not going to show anything in terms of THIS year. Again, it is "revenue" not "income" until it appears on line 22 of a tax return.  Is the number on line 22 of page 1 of your 2017 tax return enough???  THAT is your current income, NOT anything that has happened so far in 2018.

Yes Sir,

that is the case...I checked my last year tax return and line 22 of first page says I made more then enough to support 6 person...this year return will be more then last year and will support up to 8 person...so thanks for clearifing that...

[pushbrk 12,082]

Just now, The Rock ll said:

Yes Sir,

that is the case...I checked my last year tax return and line 22 of first page says I made more then enough to support 6 person...this year return will be more then last year and will support up to 8 person...so thanks for clearifing that...

The 2018 return is only relevant if you provide the I-864 NEXT year.  Not sure why you keep mentioning it.

[The Rock ll 227]

51 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

The 2018 return is only relevant if you provide the I-864 NEXT year.  Not sure why you keep mentioning it.

Cuz...I am waiting on NOA2 and next year I will fill out 864 for my wife and step kids...so that’s y I was confusing about gross income or tax income for poverty guideline...but know I now I will be good ...

[pushbrk 12,082]

2 minutes ago, The Rock ll said:

Cuz...I am waiting on NOA2 and next year I will fill out 864 for my wife and step kids...so that’s y I was confusing about gross income or tax income for poverty guideline...but know I now I will be good ...

Sounds like it will be good but you are confusing "income" and "revenue".  Revenue minus expenses is "income" or "gross income".  Gross revenue is NOT income.  Words mean things.