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hello everyone, i went for my I-751 interview with my wife and she withdraw her petition and made a statement that the marriage wasn't stable. This happened because we have been  there has been an abuse going on in the marriage so i have to leave and stay in another state. Instead of getting a divorce she promised to help me get the ROC after that we can get a divorce so we both stayed married and filed everything jointly. I took one of my finger prints in the states that i am because i was told i can take the finger print at any uscis center, when we went to the interview they ask us if we have lived separately we both said no but when she was ask to explain why i got my finger print in another state she couldn't give any explanation but to withdraw her statement. My question is can i file for "VAWA" for an abuse while i wait for uscis letter because we haven't received any letter from uscis yet . Has any one been through this and what can they say in the letter. I need help

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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Do you have proof of the 'abuse'? Police reports or anything?

 

Was it actual physical abuse or just arguments/words that led to the separation.

 

Need some  more info. Everyone perceives 'abuse' differently. What someone may claim is abuse, to me may just be seen as a harsh argument of yelling... not abuse. So need some specific info before anyone can give you more specific answer.

08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

   

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Filed: Country: Ghana
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2 hours ago, Ben&Zian said:

Do you have proof of the 'abuse'? Police reports or anything?

 

Was it actual physical abuse or just arguments/words that led to the separation.

 

Need some  more info. Everyone perceives 'abuse' differently. What someone may claim is abuse, to me may just be seen as a harsh argument of yelling... not abuse. So need some specific info before anyone can give you more specific answer.

Its not physical abuse so there is not police report . Its  emotional abuse and i have text messages and calls on my phone from her parents telling her how abusive she has been to me.Sometimes the parents gets involved and we have been to counseling but she refuses to go again after 2 visits. Should i file for the VAWA now or wait

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23 minutes ago, delawasty said:

Its not physical abuse so there is not police report . Its  emotional abuse and i have text messages and calls on my phone from her parents telling her how abusive she has been to me.Sometimes the parents gets involved and we have been to counseling but she refuses to go again after 2 visits. Should i file for the VAWA now or wait

 

I myself can't say, not my area, only asked because it is important for others who can with their inputs to know what type of 'abuse'.... texts, arguments, ect, in all honesty, to me aren't really abuse... You said you tried counseling but she backed out..honestly just sounds like marriage is over maybe... If you divorce perhaps can just file ROC on your own with even with divorce. 

08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

   

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Filed: Country: Ghana
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2 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

I myself can't say, not my area, only asked because it is important for others who can with their inputs to know what type of 'abuse'.... texts, arguments, ect, in all honesty, to me aren't really abuse... You said you tried counseling but she backed out..honestly just sounds like marriage is over maybe... If you divorce perhaps can just file ROC on your own with even with divorce. 

I got you but do you mean refile the ROC again without her whiles we have had an interview for the one we filed jointly. Can that be possible

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28 minutes ago, delawasty said:

 do you mean refile the ROC again without her whiles we have had an interview for the one we filed jointly.

Well, if she withdrew herself from the joint petition you will have little choice, as they will be sending you a scary letter of denial...

 

Broadly, your options at that point will be to refile by yourself with a divorce waiver (and for this you MUST divorced for it to be approved), or to refile by yourself with an abuse waiver, or to take your chances in court with an immigration judge and risk a final order of removal (ie, you are no longer a permanent resident).

If a USC spouse has withdrawn themselves from a joint petition, that that joint petition will never be approved, so start thinking about what you are going to do next.

 

28 minutes ago, delawasty said:

 Can that be possible

Yes. There is no limit to the amount of I-751 petitions that can be filed, and they can be filed at any time before a final order of removal is issued by an immigration judge.

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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As a male, I don't think you're eligible for VAWA at all since she's the female.

I-129F Mailed: Aug 16, 2013 | Interview at Embassy Jan 24, 2014

K-1 VISA IN HAND: March 6, 2014

I-485 Mailed: June 20, 2014 | NPIW: October 15, 2014 | Welcome Letter: June 23, 2015

2 YR GREEN CARD IN HAND: June 26, 2015

I-751 Mailed: March 20, 2017 | Approval Letter: February 24, 2018

10 YR GREEN CARD IN HAND: March 23, 2018

N-400 Filed Online: March 20, 2018

Posted
14 minutes ago, jyaku said:

As a male, I don't think you're eligible for VAWA at all since she's the female.

Not true. 

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: Country: Ghana
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8 hours ago, mindthegap said:

Well, if she withdrew herself from the joint petition you will have little choice, as they will be sending you a scary letter of denial...

 

Broadly, your options at that point will be to refile by yourself with a divorce waiver (and for this you MUST divorced for it to be approved), or to refile by yourself with an abuse waiver, or to take your chances in court with an immigration judge and risk a final order of removal (ie, you are no longer a permanent resident).

If a USC spouse has withdrawn themselves from a joint petition, that that joint petition will never be approved, so start thinking about what you are going to do next.

 

Yes. There is no limit to the amount of I-751 petitions that can be filed, and they can be filed at any time before a final order of removal is issued by an immigration judge.

Thanks everyone for your advises

Posted
9 minutes ago, delawasty said:

Thanks everyone for your advises

Please keep us all updated on your progress. God bless. 

I-751 Timeline:

I-751 filed at VSC                 : 05/08/2017

USCIS Received                  : 05/09/2017

Check Cashed                     : 05/18/2017

NOA1 Receipt Date             : 05/10/2017

NOA1 received                     : 05/20/2017

Biometrics letter Received  : 06/10/2017 - Appointment for 06/23/2017

Biometrics Walk-in               : 06/12/2017 - biometrics completed

DMV license renewed         : 06/12/2017 - 1 year extension from greencard expiration 

I-751 Approved                    : 06/06/2018

 

N-400 Timeline:

Paper filing received at USCIS              : 05/24/2018

N400 notice to create online account   : 05/30/2018

N400 NOA                                                  : 06/02/2018

N400 Biometrics                                       : 06/21/2018

N400 Interview                                          : 09/19/2018

 

Posted

For reference, VAWA does not apply to ROC. You already have a green card. You can complete ROC without the petitioning spouse via a single filer waiver - either due to abuse or divorce (or both!). You show evidence of each option selection before they will approve ROC (e.g. a divorce decree for the divorce option, or police reports / psych evaluation / whatever else for the abuse option). You must show sufficient evidence of entering the marriage in good faith in all cases.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Country: Ghana
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Posted
12 hours ago, geowrian said:

For reference, VAWA does not apply to ROC. You already have a green card. You can complete ROC without the petitioning spouse via a single filer waiver - either due to abuse or divorce (or both!). You show evidence of each option selection before they will approve ROC (e.g. a divorce decree for the divorce option, or police reports / psych evaluation / whatever else for the abuse option). You must show sufficient evidence of entering the marriage in good faith in all cases.

That means i can refile the ROC again without her whiles we have had an interview for the previous one we filed?... The dad was the one who blessed our marriage and the parents are ready to write a letter of support that i entered in the marriage in good faith . do you think that will help and my wife wanted to write a letter too  to prove that i married her in good faith but just that it didnt work out.

Posted
10 minutes ago, delawasty said:

That means i can refile the ROC again without her whiles we have had an interview for the previous one we filed?... The dad was the one who blessed our marriage and the parents are ready to write a letter of support that i entered in the marriage in good faith . do you think that will help and my wife wanted to write a letter too  to prove that i married her in good faith but just that it didnt work out.

It doesn't matter if you have evidence of bona-fide-ness to the required standard if it is a joint petition and the USC withdraws themselves from it (as you appear to be saying she did) - it will be denied if you haven't switched to a solo (divorce/abuse) waiver. A joint petition cannot be approved if they have withdrawn themselves from it.

 

If it is denied a motion to reopen would really be a waste of time & money, so you will have to refile - with a waiver this time. A letter would help at this point yes.

 

 

What exactly did your wife say/do, and what exactly were you told by the interviewing officer?

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

 
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