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Hmmmm.

 

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By Patrick Lawrence

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It is now a year since the Democratic National Committee’s mail system was compromised—a year since events in the spring and early summer of 2016 were identified as remote hacks and, in short order, attributed to Russians acting in behalf of Donald Trump. A great edifice has been erected during this time. President Trump, members of his family, and numerous people around him stand accused of various corruptions and extensive collusion with Russians. Half a dozen simultaneous investigations proceed into these matters. Last week news broke that Special Counsel Robert Mueller had convened a grand jury, which issued its first subpoenas on August 3. Allegations of treason are common; prominent political figures and many media cultivate a case for impeachment.

 

The president’s ability to conduct foreign policy, notably but not only with regard to Russia, is now crippled. Forced into a corner and having no choice, Trump just signed legislation imposing severe new sanctions on Russia and European companies working with it on pipeline projects vital to Russia’s energy sector. Striking this close to the core of another nation’s economy is customarily considered an act of war, we must not forget. In retaliation, Moscow has announced that the United States must cut its embassy staff by roughly two-thirds. All sides agree that relations between the United States and Russia are now as fragile as they were during some of the Cold War’s worst moments. To suggest that military conflict between two nuclear powers inches ever closer can no longer be dismissed as hyperbole.

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The president’s ability to conduct foreign policy, notably but not only with regard to Russia, is now crippled. Forced into a corner and having no choice, Trump just signed legislation imposing severe new sanctions on Russia and European companies working with it on pipeline projects vital to Russia’s energy sector. Striking this close to the core of another nation’s economy is customarily considered an act of war, we must not forget. In retaliation, Moscow has announced that the United States must cut its embassy staff by roughly two-thirds. All sides agree that relations between the United States and Russia are now as fragile as they were during some of the Cold War’s worst moments. To suggest that military conflict between two nuclear powers inches ever closer can no longer be dismissed as hyperbole.

 

Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

 

 

 

 

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Doesn't fit the narrative?

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It should really surprise no one that the left put forth a narrative way before the matter is even investigated thoroughly -- something that by default causes them to be wrong more often than right.

 

Of course, being wrong is no concern.. the thought process is, attribute any conspiracies to Trump in effort to accumulate so much negative press toward him that people will just be fed up of it, give up, and let the left have their way. Should be an obvious game plan by now.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, IAMX said:

It should really surprise no one that the left put forth a narrative way before the matter is even investigated thoroughly -- something that by default causes them to be wrong more often than right.

 

Of course, being wrong is no concern.. the thought process is, attribute any conspiracies to Trump in effort to accumulate so much negative press toward him that people will just be fed up of it, give up, and let the left have their way. Should be an obvious game plan by now.

 

 

Yeah, it never matters if the Left is proven wrong, it is the seriousness of the charge that matters!  :bonk:  in the meantime we get to pay a bunch of lawyers a lot of money for many years to investigate something.

 

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yeah, it never matters if the Left is proven wrong, it is the seriousness of the charge that matters!  :bonk:  in the meantime we get to pay a bunch of lawyers a lot of money for many years to investigate something.

 

:rolleyes:

You just see how bad the tantrums are when certain people don't get their way. 

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You just see how bad the tantrums are when certain people don't get their way. 

No doubt.  And let's not forget that most of the lawyers chosen are DNC supporters.  You wonder if they will give this report any credence.  There is no way a DNC insider did this!  They are much too loyal.

 

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9 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

No doubt.  And let's not forget that most of the lawyers chosen are DNC supporters.  You wonder if they will give this report any credence.  There is no way a DNC insider did this!  They are much too loyal.

 

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Its very clear those involved in establishment politics are flocking to Democrats. Their formula is simple:

 

- Bread and circus (give attention to social justice causes to magnetize liberal vote, lip service to moderate or conservative issues while doing little to nothing)

- Pretend they care about foreigners by positive talk of letting them break laws and have amnesty, while keeping laws in place to placate to conservatives

- Work behind the scenes to further globalist agenda and undermine national sovereignty. 

 

This was a problem I saw coming due to the stranglehold the two parties have over elections, and not because these parties are so omnipotent, but because the voting populace are so easily herded.

 

Take Bernie Sanders for example, the guy acts as if hes truly an Independent..

 

- Criticizes establishment Dems

- Runs on the Democrat ticket

- Instead of making sure the election was validly won, he gives up and cucks himself to Dems/Hillary even after it was revealed she and the DNC (via DWS and co) conspired to screw Bernie anyways

- DWS quits DNC, joins Hillary

 

After election

- Bernie goes back to pretending he's Independent and criticizing establishment Dems

 

And the Republicans are no better with how they handled Ron Paul, but Trumps election at least shows promise. Problem is, Trump is an idiot and in his gestures to act bipartisan and reasonable (behind closed doors) is bringing in people who undermine his Presidency. 

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Just now, Steeleballz said:

  DRINK!!!!

Interesting response to the OP topic.

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Doesn't fit the narrative?

man, that was a lot of reading. i'm surprised you don't consider this fake news considering 

 

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Editor’s note: In its chronology, VIPS mistakenly gave the wrong date for CrowdStrike’s announcement of its claim to have found malware on DNC servers. It said June 15, when it should have said June 14. VIPS has acknowledged the error, and we have made the correction.

i just want to say, considering the back and forth in this thread..equivocating the dnc with 'the left' or 'leftists' or 'progressives' isn't something the dnc even does. trump supporters, *ahem* independents, on the other hand...lump em all together. with bernie and chavez :lol:

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2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

man, that was a lot of reading. i'm surprised you don't consider this fake news considering 

 

i just want to say, considering the back and forth in this thread..equivocating the dnc with 'the left' or 'leftists' or 'progressives' isn't something the dnc even does. trump supporters, *ahem* independents, on the other hand...lump em all together. with bernie and chavez :lol:

Well it did come from an alt-left publication so I did consider it fake, but after reading it (yes it is a long read), it does make a lot of sense considering the amount of data stolen and the ability to transfer it at a rate not even possible.  

 

You are right, the DNC practices the politics of identity and they certainly are not progressive.

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3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

  DRINK!!!!

pace yourself, the day is long and blame/shame for 'the left' is precipitous around these parts!

3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Interesting response to the OP topic.

i also found this interesting:

 

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To be noted in this connection: The list of the CIA’s cyber-tools WikiLeaks began to release in March and labeled Vault 7 includes one called Marble that is capable of obfuscating the origin of documents in false-flag operations and leaving markings that point to whatever the CIA wants to point to. (The tool can also “de-obfuscate” what it has obfuscated.) It is not known whether this tool was deployed in the Guccifer case, but it is there for such a use.

 

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Well it did come from an alt-left publication so I did consider it fake, but after reading it (yes it is a long read), it does make a lot of sense considering the amount of data stolen and the ability to transfer it at a rate not even possible.

Naw man, Russia.

 

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Well it did come from an alt-left publication so I did consider it fake, but after reading it (yes it is a long read), it does make a lot of sense considering the amount of data stolen and the ability to transfer it at a rate not even possible.

i read the op and into the consortiumnews and disobedient media links now. thanks for the the rabbit hole. TGIF

 

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