Barack Obama endorses French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron days before runoff election

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

 

How am I all over the board? There is no solid evidence. People can say whatever they want. That alone doesn't qualify as evidence. I'm sure everyone here remembers when we were told about WMDs by these same people.

So you are definitely sure that these are the same people?  I am sure there is overlap but we are not even all of the same agencies that weighed in on this.  

 

The problem with so called patriots pointing their finger at the intelligence community over this is that they are undermining the confidence in agencies and an institution that the United States depends on for our national defense.  These slanders are not victim-less, the victim will be the people of the United States.  All because some folks feel there is a chance their candidate will be tainted by this investigation.

 

I have not seen any evidence to contradict their evidence unless you count Putins denials

 

[jg121783 3,921]

 

So you are definitely sure that these are the same people?  I am sure there is overlap but we are not even all of the same agencies that weighed in on this.  

 

The problem with so called patriots pointing their finger at the intelligence community over this is that they are undermining the confidence in agencies and an institution that the United States depends on for our national defense.  These slanders are not victim-less, the victim will be the people of the United States.  All because some folks feel there is a chance their candidate will be tainted by this investigation.

 

I have not seen any evidence to contradict their evidence unless you count Putins denials

 

I have not seen any evidence to be contradicted. Just some people making claims that can't be proven.

[IAMX 3,055]

 

I have not seen any evidence to be contradicted. Just some people making claims that can't be proven.

I'd love @ccneat to explain this way of thinking in a civil court.

 

People said something! I must believe.

 

I seriously doubt this is about evidence and caring about the country, that's garbage, this is simply about hating Trump being elected and looking for anything that casts his election in an illegitimate light. This is a problem snowflakes are going to have to get over themselves.

Edited May 7, 2017 by IAMX

[CaliCat 3,957]

 

I have not seen any evidence to be contradicted. Just some people making claims that can't be proven.

 

Comey has maintained there was Russian interference and hacking during the US elections. The French have made similar statements with regards to their elections. Until the investigation is concluded, the evidence is not in your favor.

[jg121783 3,921]

 

 

Comey has maintained there was Russian interference and hacking during the US elections. The French have made similar statements with regards to their elections. Until the investigation is concluded, the evidence is not in your favor.

Again people alleging different things without evidence. Comey has even less credibility than the others as he is motivated by politics. No one has proven any hacking took place. For all we know a disgruntled DNC staffer leaked the emails because they were upset about Bernie Sanders having the primaries stolen from him. This whitch hunt has gone on for 6 months now and still no evidence has been presented. Not a single shred. You would think if there was something to this we would have something concrete to go on but we don't.

[IAMX 3,055]

 

Again people alleging different things without evidence. Comey has even less credibility than the others as he is motivated by politics. No one has proven any hacking took place. For all we know a disgruntled DNC staffer leaked the emails because they were upset about Bernie Sanders having the primaries stolen from him. This whitch hunt has gone on for 6 months now and still no evidence has been presented. Not a single shred. You would think if there was something to this we would have something concrete to go on but we don't.

I just love the lefts logic. 

 

- No evidence 

- Evidence is not in your favor 

 

 

Nice one guys. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

 

Again people alleging different things without evidence. Comey has even less credibility than the others as he is motivated by politics. No one has proven any hacking took place. For all we know a disgruntled DNC staffer leaked the emails because they were upset about Bernie Sanders having the primaries stolen from him. This whitch hunt has gone on for 6 months now and still no evidence has been presented. Not a single shred. You would think if there was something to this we would have something concrete to go on but we don't.

Not people US Intelligence ...stay ignorant if you wish...Russian intelligence 

Speaking of accusations without evidence,  why tear down a good man like Comey just because you don't like the case he was working on?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

 

I just love the lefts logic. 

 

- No evidence 

- Evidence is not in your favor 

 

 

Nice one guys. 

What are you trying to say here? That the left is saying this?  Don't see this as a left right thing. I view this as a decision between being concerned and loving your country enough to protect it from foreign powers and those that think Putin is not a threat to western democracy or if he is maybe that is good thing.

[IAMX 3,055]

 

What are you trying to say here? That the left is saying this?  Don't see this as a left right thing. I view this as a decision between being concerned and loving your country enough to protect it from foreign powers and those that think Putin is not a threat to western democracy or if he is maybe that is good thing.

Clinton lost, it's over. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

 

I wonder if he will get this one right?

 

Former President Barack Obama couldn’t swing America’s last election in his favor, but now he’s jumping into France’s anyway.

Obama on Thursday endorsed centrist French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron in a video in which he nonetheless vowed to keep quiet about most other elections.

“I’m not planning to get involved in many elections now that I don’t have to run for office again,” Obama said in a video posted on Macron’s Twitter account.

“But the French election is very important to the future of France and the values we care so much about. Because the success of France matters to the entire world.”

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/obama-endorses-french-presidential-candidate-emmanuel-macron-article-1.3136526

 

 

Apparently he did. Good for Europe, and good for America.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

 

Clinton lost, it's over. 

Again a form of misdirection. It does not matter what the results of the election are /were on this topic. 

You either stand with your fellow Americans in a common defense against our enemies or you to favor our enemies?  

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

 

Again a form of misdirection. It does not matter what the results of the election are /were on this topic. 

You either stand with your fellow Americans in a common defense against our enemies or you to favor our enemies?  

 

 

 

But Putin is BFF with the supreme leader. We must like him, at all costs. 

[IAMX 3,055]

 

Again a form of misdirection. It does not matter what the results of the election are /were on this topic. 

You either stand with your fellow Americans in a common defense against our enemies or you to favor our enemies?  

 

Maybe Alex Jones might find some common ground with these conspiracies of yours. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

 

Maybe Alex Jones might find some common ground with these conspiracies of yours. 

Funny you should bring Alex...he love love loves the admiration of Putin.

 

RT Host To Alex Jones: Putin Told Me, “Say Hi To Alex”

 

Jones Has Claimed He Was Previously Told That Putin Is A “Big Listener” And The “Russian Government Listens To” His Show

 

Blog ››› January 12, 2017 2:08 PM EST ››› ERIC HANANOKI

 

360

Radio host and prominent Donald Trump ally Alex Jones was told by an RT host that Russian President Vladimir Putin asked him to "say hi to Alex.” Jones has claimed that he was told years ago that "Putin’s a big listener" and was previously informed that the “Russian government listens to" his show and the Kremlin partially “modeled” RT off of his Infowars network.

Scrutiny of Trump and his allies’ alleged ties to the Russian government have increased since the U.S. intelligence community released an unclassified document finding with “high confidence” that Putin “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election,” and that “Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.” CNN recently reported that senior intelligence officials presented a “two-page synopsis” to Trump and President Obama that “included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.”

Jones has said that he talks to the president-elect on the phone to give advice and stated that it’s “surreal to talk about issues here on air and then word for word hear Trump say it two days later.” Trump has appeared on Jones show and is reportedly a viewer. Prominent adviser Roger Stone is a regular contributor and guest host for Jones’ program.

Jones has claimed that 9/11 was an “inside job” by the U.S. government and that Osama Bin Laden was “a CIA asset.” He and his Infowars network have heavily praised Putin in recent months.

Kremlin-connected commentators have made clear in recent weeks that they view Jones as an important part of a campaign benefiting Russia.

Jones recently appeared on Tsargrad TV, which was founded by Putin ally Konstantin Malofeev. The Russian tycoon is reportedly “one of Vladimir Putin’s favorite businessmen” and has “close ties to the Kremlin elite.” During the appearance, Tsargrad TV editorial director Alexander Dugin praised Jones as “a hero of this campaign” because he “told the truth while everyone else lied.” Dugin has been widely referred to as “Putin's Rasputin” because of his ties to and influence on the Russian president and his political apparatus. Jones himself bragged about appearing on “Vladimir Putin’s favorite TV show” and with “top Putin advisers.”

Jones has also recently claimed that he’s been praised by Putin himself. On his December 8 program, Jones hosted RT broadcaster Max Keiser. Slate profiled Keiser in 2013 and wrote that he’s “become an eccentric hero of a certain ultralibertarian, 9/11-conspiracy-espousing, gold-bug-loving corner of alternative media.”

Keiser and Jones spent time discussing Putin’s interest in Jones, with Keiser stating: “Vladimir Putin says to say hello, by the way.” Jones responded, “Wow,” and claimed that he was “told by the head of RT America, before they even launched it, like eight, nine years ago, Putin’s a big listener.” Jones then added that “years ago” he was told by unnamed people that “Putin wants to come on” and talk about hunting (the appearance appears to have not materialized).  

From the December 8 discussion:

MAX KEISER: Vladimir Putin says to say hello, by the way.

ALEX JONES: Did that really happen?

KEISER: Oh yeah. He said, when you see Alex, tell him I said hello.

JONES: That’s crazy. I better not go over there, though.

KEISER: I’m going to introduce -- interview Putin this year.

JONES: Really?

KEISER: Yeah. Going over there.

JONES: Now I am interested in this because I was told by the head of RT America, before they even launched it, like eight, nine years ago, Putin’s a big listener and by the way, he likes how you play --

KEISER: He loves my show. He imitated me at the 10-year anniversary dinner.

[…]

JONES: Let’s get back to the Putin thing. This will be newsworthy. Let me hear this. What did he say?

KEISER: Well I’m just telling you what he said. He was imitating me and Jesse Ventura was there at the dinner, and --

JONES: [unintelligible] told me that. So he said, “Say hi to Alex?”

KEISER: Yeah.

JONES: Wow.

KEISER: Yeah, he said, “Say hello to Alex Jones.” He’s going to come on my show this year, Moscow is beautiful in the springtime.

JONES: We actually got reached out to years ago by some people and I checked and it was like, “Yes, Putin wants to come on. But he wants to talk about hunting ‘cause you’re from Texas.”

Jones has repeatedly hosted Keiser on his program, and he has also frequently appeared on RT over the years, including recently on Keiser’s program. (Jones said during the Kesier segment that he's "probably been on" RT "200 times.") In a separate edition of his RT program, Keiser referred to Jones as his “good friend” who helped elect Trump.

The U.S. intelligence community’s recently released report stated that the “rapid expansion of RT's operations and budget and recent candid statements by RT's leadership point to the channel's importance to the Kremlin as a messaging tool and indicate a Kremlin-directed campaign to undermine faith in the US Government and fuel political protest.”

Jones told his audience on a July 20, 2014, show that “the basic Russian government listens to my show” and said he was told that they “started” and “modeled a little” bit of RT off of Infowars. From that show:

ALEX JONES: I’m not bragging when I tell you this, because I knew about this years ago. When I was at RT headquarters in New York and then in L.A., the head of RT at the time, who was replaced because the State Department freaked out and threatened to shut him off if I was ever allowed back on there. Because I'd go on national Russian TV and criticize communism, criticize Stalin, criticize the New World Order, say whatever I wanted. The head of RT was a huge listener. And they were -- I was told they literally started it, modeled a little bit off Infowars. That was part of it. And that the basic Russian government listens to my show. And I never really said that on air because it sounds so wild, but it’s confirmed. It’s come out in communiques and cables and stuff like that. It’s been in the London Telegraph that Assad also, they hacked his emails and the government was reading our analysis at Infowars.com. My analysis. And I’m not saying that arrogantly, but when the Russian government’s listening to you, you might as well just say that that’s going on. I mean it’s no mistake that -- now I’ve been invited on national Russian TV repeatedly to be on with Vladimir Putin’s best buddy, I forget his name, that runs the state-run media over there, and I’ve said no. The crew’s had the request come in, I’ve said no, because this is getting too close to war and I’m not going on Russian media.

[IAMX 3,055]

 

Funny you should bring Alex...he love love loves the admiration of Putin.

 

RT Host To Alex Jones: Putin Told Me, “Say Hi To Alex”

 

Jones Has Claimed He Was Previously Told That Putin Is A “Big Listener” And The “Russian Government Listens To” His Show

 

Blog ››› January 12, 2017 2:08 PM EST ››› ERIC HANANOKI

 

360

Radio host and prominent Donald Trump ally Alex Jones was told by an RT host that Russian President Vladimir Putin asked him to "say hi to Alex.” Jones has claimed that he was told years ago that "Putin’s a big listener" and was previously informed that the “Russian government listens to" his show and the Kremlin partially “modeled” RT off of his Infowars network.

Scrutiny of Trump and his allies’ alleged ties to the Russian government have increased since the U.S. intelligence community released an unclassified document finding with “high confidence” that Putin “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election,” and that “Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.” CNN recently reported that senior intelligence officials presented a “two-page synopsis” to Trump and President Obama that “included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.”

Jones has said that he talks to the president-elect on the phone to give advice and stated that it’s “surreal to talk about issues here on air and then word for word hear Trump say it two days later.” Trump has appeared on Jones show and is reportedly a viewer. Prominent adviser Roger Stone is a regular contributor and guest host for Jones’ program.

Jones has claimed that 9/11 was an “inside job” by the U.S. government and that Osama Bin Laden was “a CIA asset.” He and his Infowars network have heavily praised Putin in recent months.

Kremlin-connected commentators have made clear in recent weeks that they view Jones as an important part of a campaign benefiting Russia.

Jones recently appeared on Tsargrad TV, which was founded by Putin ally Konstantin Malofeev. The Russian tycoon is reportedly “one of Vladimir Putin’s favorite businessmen” and has “close ties to the Kremlin elite.” During the appearance, Tsargrad TV editorial director Alexander Dugin praised Jones as “a hero of this campaign” because he “told the truth while everyone else lied.” Dugin has been widely referred to as “Putin's Rasputin” because of his ties to and influence on the Russian president and his political apparatus. Jones himself bragged about appearing on “Vladimir Putin’s favorite TV show” and with “top Putin advisers.”

Jones has also recently claimed that he’s been praised by Putin himself. On his December 8 program, Jones hosted RT broadcaster Max Keiser. Slate profiled Keiser in 2013 and wrote that he’s “become an eccentric hero of a certain ultralibertarian, 9/11-conspiracy-espousing, gold-bug-loving corner of alternative media.”

Keiser and Jones spent time discussing Putin’s interest in Jones, with Keiser stating: “Vladimir Putin says to say hello, by the way.” Jones responded, “Wow,” and claimed that he was “told by the head of RT America, before they even launched it, like eight, nine years ago, Putin’s a big listener.” Jones then added that “years ago” he was told by unnamed people that “Putin wants to come on” and talk about hunting (the appearance appears to have not materialized).  

From the December 8 discussion:

MAX KEISER: Vladimir Putin says to say hello, by the way.

ALEX JONES: Did that really happen?

KEISER: Oh yeah. He said, when you see Alex, tell him I said hello.

JONES: That’s crazy. I better not go over there, though.

KEISER: I’m going to introduce -- interview Putin this year.

JONES: Really?

KEISER: Yeah. Going over there.

JONES: Now I am interested in this because I was told by the head of RT America, before they even launched it, like eight, nine years ago, Putin’s a big listener and by the way, he likes how you play --

KEISER: He loves my show. He imitated me at the 10-year anniversary dinner.

[…]

JONES: Let’s get back to the Putin thing. This will be newsworthy. Let me hear this. What did he say?

KEISER: Well I’m just telling you what he said. He was imitating me and Jesse Ventura was there at the dinner, and --

JONES: [unintelligible] told me that. So he said, “Say hi to Alex?”

KEISER: Yeah.

JONES: Wow.

KEISER: Yeah, he said, “Say hello to Alex Jones.” He’s going to come on my show this year, Moscow is beautiful in the springtime.

JONES: We actually got reached out to years ago by some people and I checked and it was like, “Yes, Putin wants to come on. But he wants to talk about hunting ‘cause you’re from Texas.”

Jones has repeatedly hosted Keiser on his program, and he has also frequently appeared on RT over the years, including recently on Keiser’s program. (Jones said during the Kesier segment that he's "probably been on" RT "200 times.") In a separate edition of his RT program, Keiser referred to Jones as his “good friend” who helped elect Trump.

The U.S. intelligence community’s recently released report stated that the “rapid expansion of RT's operations and budget and recent candid statements by RT's leadership point to the channel's importance to the Kremlin as a messaging tool and indicate a Kremlin-directed campaign to undermine faith in the US Government and fuel political protest.”

Jones told his audience on a July 20, 2014, show that “the basic Russian government listens to my show” and said he was told that they “started” and “modeled a little” bit of RT off of Infowars. From that show:

ALEX JONES: I’m not bragging when I tell you this, because I knew about this years ago. When I was at RT headquarters in New York and then in L.A., the head of RT at the time, who was replaced because the State Department freaked out and threatened to shut him off if I was ever allowed back on there. Because I'd go on national Russian TV and criticize communism, criticize Stalin, criticize the New World Order, say whatever I wanted. The head of RT was a huge listener. And they were -- I was told they literally started it, modeled a little bit off Infowars. That was part of it. And that the basic Russian government listens to my show. And I never really said that on air because it sounds so wild, but it’s confirmed. It’s come out in communiques and cables and stuff like that. It’s been in the London Telegraph that Assad also, they hacked his emails and the government was reading our analysis at Infowars.com. My analysis. And I’m not saying that arrogantly, but when the Russian government’s listening to you, you might as well just say that that’s going on. I mean it’s no mistake that -- now I’ve been invited on national Russian TV repeatedly to be on with Vladimir Putin’s best buddy, I forget his name, that runs the state-run media over there, and I’ve said no. The crew’s had the request come in, I’ve said no, because this is getting too close to war and I’m not going on Russian media.

I'm not reading all that.. but I guess it'll do, he's the only true conspiracy nut I've seen and so is the belief that Russians hacked the election. Gets to crazy levels when people who question the lack of proof get called Putin slappies. We taking a page from Joseph McCarthy for this bad attempt to legitimize conspiracies?