Judge blocks part of Trump's sanctuary cities executive order

[Transborderwife 4,666]

21 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

We can all give responses like that but when the violence comes to our own doors it's different. Seriously I think your in denial that there's even a problem. 

 

Over 11 million illegals, nothing easy about that.

It's likely more like 30 million.  But anyway, I cannot help but think of how often on this board it becomes ok to suggest to a struggling k1 couple or overstay student/work/b2 etc visa to wait until you have the money to file.  That being "out of status" isn't ideal but no biggie.  I really do think sometimes that we have two classes of illegal immigrants here.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Illegals who are guilty of serious crimes should be at the top of the list for deportation. There should be a plan for enforcement, starting with the worst offenders first. A murderer,  rapist, gang member,  etc should be more of a priority than a non criminal illegal working for a landscaping company. Just as with citizens, a rapist or drug dealer is more of a threat to society than a jaywalker. Of course the minor offenders are a lot easier to catch than the dangerous ones. Just like it is currently with immigration, it's much easier to harass those doing it legally than it is to catch border jumpers. 

Edited April 26, 2017 by spookyturtle

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Just now, spookyturtle said:

Illegals who are guilty of serious crimes should be at the top of the list for deportation. There should be a plan for enforcement, starting with the worst offenders first. A murder, rapist, gang member,  etc should be more of a priority than a non criminal illegal working for a landscaping company. Just as with citizens, a rapist or drug dealer is more of a threat to society than a jaywalker. Of course the minor offenders are a lot easier to catch than the dangerous ones. Just like it is currently with immigration, it's much easier to harass those doing it legally than it is to catch border jumpers. 

Exactly.  Low hanging fruit or so it seems. Just as it'll become easier and easier to catch vwp violators or overstay

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Just now, Transborderwife said:

Exactly.  Low hanging fruit or so it seems. Just as it'll become easier and easier to catch vwp violators or overstay

 But it makes great headlines and pads the statistics, and that's what those in charge are looking for. Personally, I'm more concerned about MS-13 and Cartel members. 

[IAMX 3,055]

40 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

That's what the state's says anyway. I am just glad I bought all my guns out of state before I moved here. The state passed a law last year saying you need a background check every year just to buy ammo.

Even though Cali is my home where I spent like 80% of my life, I would never move back there. Place is a craphole. Been trying to get my buddies to move closer to Alberta. Plenty more sane states, more freedom over your own property, less illegals to deal with, less dumb state that doesn't like to upgrade its infrastructure, less stupid in general. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, OriZ said:

 

 

I would not put Kasich and spine and honor in the same sentence. He's a whiny little crybaby.

 

See above.

Cite examples

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

23 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Illegals who are guilty of serious crimes should be at the top of the list for deportation. There should be a plan for enforcement, starting with the worst offenders first. A murderer,  rapist, gang member,  etc should be more of a priority than a non criminal illegal working for a landscaping company. Just as with citizens, a rapist or drug dealer is more of a threat to society than a jaywalker. Of course the minor offenders are a lot easier to catch than the dangerous ones. Just like it is currently with immigration, it's much easier to harass those doing it legally than it is to catch border jumpers. 

Most of the criminals in that class are most likely serving long prison terms punctuated by a free air ride home escorted by a US Marshall.  

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Feedback from my in laws at the time was to give Cruz a wide berth. We were over on holidays for a few weeks just before the election and my mother in law put a couple of Trump stickers on the hire car. Long drive to Atlanta plenty of high fives and cars honking, my 22 year old daughter was in the front passenger seat and she is claiming the praise. My in laws say it was the Trump sticker.

 

For the future I an liking the footage of Trey Goudy as a possible future president, the guy speaks well and seems to have his heart in the right place. Probably a nutter but hopefully I will be able to vote by next election.

What is the Irish consensus view on Donald Trump?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

24 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Even though Cali is my home where I spent like 80% of my life, I would never move back there. Place is a craphole. Been trying to get my buddies to move closer to Alberta. Plenty more sane states, more freedom over your own property, less illegals to deal with, less dumb state that doesn't like to upgrade its infrastructure, less stupid in general. 

 

Oh the prairie lights are burnin' bright
The Chinook wind is a-movin' in
Tomorrow night I'll be Alberta bound
Though I've done the best I could
My old luck ain't been so good and
Tomorrow night I'll be Alberta bound
No one-eyed man could e'er forget
The Rocky Mountain sunset
It's a pleasure just to be Alberta bound
I long to see my next of kin
To know what kind of shape they're in
Tomorrow night I'll be Alberta bound 

[Jacque67 7,328]

7 minutes ago, ccneat said:

What is the Irish consensus view on Donald Trump?

Eric has a great golf course there. 

[Jacque67 7,328]

Eric also has an Irish "mother"

 

http://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/watch-eric-trump-reveals-his-irish-mother-to-niamh-horan-35625523.html

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, Jacque67 said:

"mother"

 

[TBoneTX 47,483]

2 hours ago, CaliCat said:

if a cop stops you for a traffic violation, there are no constitutional grounds for the police to ask you about your immigration status.

Grounds aside, LEOs can ask anything that they want.  It's up to those who are stopped to know what they must answer during a contact, a detention, or an arrest.

 

There used to be a perfect right to silence.  Then, after the awful Hiibel Supreme Court ruling, states could adopt their "stop & identify" or "failure to identify" laws.  Illegal immigrants (and, heck, the general public) probably knows next to zero about all that.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 hours ago, Transborderwife said:

It's likely more like 30 million.  But anyway, I cannot help but think of how often on this board it becomes ok to suggest to a struggling k1 couple or overstay student/work/b2 etc visa to wait until you have the money to file.  That being "out of status" isn't ideal but no biggie.  I really do think sometimes that we have two classes of illegal immigrants here.

There were 11.1 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2014, a total unchanged from 2009 and accounting for 3.5% of the nation’s population. The number of unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2007 at 12.2 million, when this group was 4% of the U.S. population. ---Pew research

[IAMX 3,055]

2 hours ago, Transborderwife said:

It's likely more like 30 million.  But anyway, I cannot help but think of how often on this board it becomes ok to suggest to a struggling k1 couple or overstay student/work/b2 etc visa to wait until you have the money to file.  That being "out of status" isn't ideal but no biggie.  I really do think sometimes that we have two classes of illegal immigrants here.

Agreed. I think the estimation of 11 million is extremely conservative, and I wouldn't be surprised if in reality 11 million represents California illegals alone.

 

And waiting to file, that's the risk they take, and if they do something dumb and get deported, I don't feel bad. Move to a country, follow its laws and customs. Otherwise, feel free to skedaddle.