Three burglars enter home, son shoots them all dead with AR-15 assault rifle

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

lovely how excited you fellers get when kids die. MAGA!

Nope just excited the good guys won.

[bcking 3,157]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sort of like the Lefty Love Fests we usually see. 

 

Due process is important, but if you are faced with a life and death situation that you did not create, I would hope you would be the one coming out on top rather than the alleged perpetrator.   

Of course it is preferable that the person defended themselves against home invaders was victorious. Doesn't mean the ultimate outcome that occured was the best possible outcome. 

 

They may not have been minors, but they were young (they were referred to as "three teenagers"). Yes they broke the law, yes they were invading a home with a knife and brass knuckles. However now there life is over. That could have been the biggest mistake of their life and had they survived they could have changed. Would they have? We will never know now. The "best possible outcome" would have been the home owners protecting themselves, the invaders getting caught. They were armed with a knife/brass knuckles, that doesn't mean they were ever going to actually murder someone (yes we will never know). Had they survived, they could have been convincted of buglary, and something involving carrying weapons but it would not have been a life sentence. They may have turned around (again they may not have, but the outcome we have is death which is quite permanent).

 

I won't judge what the young boy at home did to protect himself and his family. They had already broken in, and if it was clear they were armed, he used what reasonable defense he had at the time. It is still sad though.

 

I also found it interesting that in Oklahoma it seems that the getaway driver (any living accomplice I guess?) gets charged with first degree murder for the deaths of their compadres. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

23 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Nope just excited the good guys won.

yeah, i'm sure the kid who just took the lives of three people feels like a winner. he's on cloud nine right now, top of the world. gun lovers are so weird.

[Boiler 47,470]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

yeah, i'm sure the kid who just took the lives of three people feels like a winner. he's on cloud nine right now, top of the world. gun lovers are so weird.

Beats being 6ft under, like the perps.

[smilesammich 10,727]

10 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Beats being 6ft under, like the perps.

sure, winning feels so good!

[Boiler 47,470]

[smilesammich 10,727]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

probably annoying to you that i'm going to go ahead and make the association between getting giddy over three dead teenagers and the premise that shooting and killing anyone is 'winning'. 

[Boiler 47,470]

There is only one giddy person on this thread.

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

There is only one giddy person on this thread.

true. i've never seen michael moore elicit such elation from gun/dead kid enthusiast.

[IAMX 3,055]

To sum up the thread:

 

- Armed robbers break into house

- Gun owner shoots them, killing all 3

- Liberals upset because criminals died rather than the victim

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

15 minutes ago, SRVT said:

To sum up the thread:

 

- Armed robbers break into house

- Gun owner shoots them, killing all 3

- Liberals upset because criminals died rather than the victim

Great 3 line summary. Kudos 

[IAMX 3,055]

1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Great 3 line summary. Kudos 

Thanks. Is there any doubt libs sympathize with criminals? Those poor armed robbers.. those poor illegal immigrants.. those poor rapefugees.. disturbed people.

Edited March 28, 2017 by SRVT

[bcking 3,157]

9 hours ago, SRVT said:

To sum up the thread:

 

- Armed robbers break into house

- Gun owner shoots them, killing all 3

- Liberals upset because criminals died rather than the victim

Who has said here that they prefer that the victim die? Please quote that person for us.

 

There aren't two options. It isn't "Criminal dies or victim dies". Of course if those are the only options, I think we would all choose the criminal's death. 

 

We just are able to see the situation for what it is. It is far more complex. "Who knew gun violence was a complex issue" you may say, well we all seem to understand that.

 

There were many possible outcomes. Yes this outcome is better than the 1 other option you provide (victim dies, criminals win) but there were other outcomes. People have defended themselves from home invaders without the death of the home invaders. They could have been shot but not killed. 

 

I'm not saying anything should have happened differently, I'm just saying that I recognize that of the MANY different outcomes (not just two) it is sad that 3 people were killed. Yes it would have been FAR worse if the homeowners were killed, but that doesn't negate the fact that three "teenagers" were killed. Teenagers can be dumb and do really stupid things. DOesn't necessarily mean the best outcome is when their life ends. Yes they were criminals, but I would have prefered they be apprehended and punished through our justice system. I believe the other "liberals" here feel the same.

Edited March 29, 2017 by TBoneTX
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[The Nature Boy 7,659]

9 hours ago, bcking said:

Who has said here that they prefer that the victim die? Please quote that person for us.

 

There aren't two options. It isn't "Criminal dies or victim dies". Of course if those are the only options, I think we would all choose the criminal's death. 

 

We just are able to see the situation for what it is. It is far more complex. "Who knew gun violence was a complex issue" you may say, well we all seem to understand that.

 

There were many possible outcomes. Yes this outcome is better than the 1 other option you provide (victim dies, criminals win) but there were other outcomes. People have defended themselves from home invaders without the death of the home invaders. They could have been shot but not killed. 

 

I'm not saying anything should have happened differently, I'm just saying that I recognize that of the MANY different outcomes (not just two) it is sad that 3 people were killed. Yes it would have been FAR worse if the homeowners were killed, but that doesn't negate the fact that three "teenagers" were killed. Teenagers can be dumb and do really stupid things. DOesn't necessarily mean the best outcome is when their life ends. Yes they were criminals, but I would have prefered they be apprehended and punished through our justice system. I believe the other "liberals" here feel the same.

could you list for us a few of your many different outcomes. 

Edited March 29, 2017 by TBoneTX
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[IAMX 3,055]

9 hours ago, bcking said:

Who has said here that they prefer that the victim die? Please quote that person for us.

 

There aren't two options. It isn't "Criminal dies or victim dies". Of course if those are the only options, I think we would all choose the criminal's death. 

 

We just are able to see the situation for what it is. It is far more complex. "Who knew gun violence was a complex issue" you may say, well we all seem to understand that.

 

There were many possible outcomes. Yes this outcome is better than the 1 other option you provide (victim dies, criminals win) but there were other outcomes. People have defended themselves from home invaders without the death of the home invaders. They could have been shot but not killed. 

 

I'm not saying anything should have happened differently, I'm just saying that I recognize that of the MANY different outcomes (not just two) it is sad that 3 people were killed. Yes it would have been FAR worse if the homeowners were killed, but that doesn't negate the fact that three "teenagers" were killed. Teenagers can be dumb and do really stupid things. DOesn't necessarily mean the best outcome is when their life ends. Yes they were criminals, but I would have prefered they be apprehended and punished through our justice system. I believe the other "liberals" here feel the same.

If only the victim would have apprehended all 3 of them. 

 

Anyways, saves the taxpayers money not having to try and jail these 3 pieces of . Had they been tried in court they would have been tried as an adult anyways, rather than innocent little teenagers.

Edited March 29, 2017 by TBoneTX
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